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Woodswalker

(549 posts)
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 09:13 AM Nov 2021

Another Deli Down!

Well I was in my favorite local deli yesterday morning and I kind knew they had right wing leanings because they almost always have Faux News on their TV. Well I went in yesterday with my son to grab breakfast and I glanced up at their TV and low and behold they have the My Pillow Idiot paused on the screen like it was some WW2 Nazi beer hall with Hitler's portrait hanging their. A TV background of the My Pillow Guy!!. This is now going to be the third local place I'll have to boycott. Just like two other local lunch eateries/pizza place that have Fox on their TVs. I'm running out of places here folks. What is wrong with these small business owners not realizing they're alienation alot of people who want to spend money in their places?? And being a mammal of rather generous proportions I do spend a fairly good amount of cash!

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Another Deli Down! (Original Post) Woodswalker Nov 2021 OP
Call them or yelp them and tell them why you are leaving them. It doesn't have to be beligerant. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #1
They seem to be the wurst of the wurst and will soon experience cuts down to the meat of the bone. TheBlackAdder Nov 2021 #17
Yes, the business definitely should know PatSeg Nov 2021 #23
Yelp may not work SCantiGOP Nov 2021 #26
The ambiance in the restaurant is a service issue. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #41
The VA hospital in Temple banned Fox in 2018. Hasn't been a fight in a waiting room since. marble falls Nov 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #4
I do believe that ban is across all VA establishments... MiHale Nov 2021 #8
As a government funded institution The Wizard Nov 2021 #9
Yelp them. Best way to communicate with the owners. Worked for me! 634-5789 Nov 2021 #3
THIS: 634-5789 Nov 2021 #5
Sure left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #22
Done it MANY times. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #27
"Done it MANY times" left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #28
Better than leaving BS propaganda playing. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #34
Yep. Did it at the Tire store and my Doctors. And I'll continue. Public service! 634-5789 Nov 2021 #29
uh huh left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #30
One really wonders about such a defense of having RW hate on public TVs FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #36
Bye left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #38
there's really not much to wonder Skittles Nov 2021 #40
I have a suggestion. Icanthinkformyself Nov 2021 #6
I make the best pizza. Cheese is the key. fwvinson Nov 2021 #13
it's on to attract The Wizard Nov 2021 #7
Yeah, they just can't get enough of that. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #37
No such thing here. I guess we're lucky. DFW Nov 2021 #10
That had to sting. paleotn Nov 2021 #20
The radical right is trying for a comeback here, but there are not many takers DFW Nov 2021 #21
Glad Germans aren't falling for AfD.... paleotn Nov 2021 #33
Merkel was far too smart for them DFW Nov 2021 #39
oh, so that's what it takes NJCher Nov 2021 #24
Worse, yet DFW Nov 2021 #32
happy to know ! ShepKat Nov 2021 #11
What is wrong with all those small businesses failing to understand the GOP doesn't care about Escurumbele Nov 2021 #12
Just call the establishment anonymously, you don't have to tell the whole World about it Escurumbele Nov 2021 #14
tv be gone . AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #15
Had the same problem when I lived in West Michigan. sarcasmo Nov 2021 #16
when I worked for sears Riverman100 Nov 2021 #18
Sounds like u had fore warning,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2021 #19
I like to wear my multigraincracker Nov 2021 #25
DH used to drive by a deli-type restaurant Freddie Nov 2021 #31
Let them know. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #35

Scrivener7

(51,090 posts)
1. Call them or yelp them and tell them why you are leaving them. It doesn't have to be beligerant.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 09:41 AM
Nov 2021

It could just be "I've always been a good customer, but I don't like having politics shoved at me while I am eating. Food establishments should respect that wish in their customers."

PatSeg

(47,772 posts)
23. Yes, the business definitely should know
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:48 AM
Nov 2021

that they lost a customer and why. When it comes to good business practices, never mix business with politics or religion. You are sure to offend people and lose many customers. Keep that stuff in your private life or consider a different occupation.

SCantiGOP

(13,878 posts)
26. Yelp may not work
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 12:00 PM
Nov 2021

My daughter knows of a restaurant in our town that had a notice of a van caravan to the January 6 rally at their entrance. The owners did go, although they didn’t go beyond the barricades at the Capitol.
I posted a Yelp review, pointing out that your patronage of their business would be funding the insurrectionists.
Yelp took it down, saying their restaurant reviews can only discuss food and service issues.

Response to marble falls (Reply #2)

MiHale

(9,806 posts)
8. I do believe that ban is across all VA establishments...
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 10:20 AM
Nov 2021

Used to be on in the Ann Arbor VA, Saginaw VA and the clinic in Oscoda now nowhere to be seen.

Best decision they made.

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
5. THIS:
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 10:00 AM
Nov 2021

Go back in, and do this. To block or restrict access to a channel:
Press menu, and then select Apps & More > Settings > Parental Controls to display the Parental Controls screen.
If Parental Controls are disabled, enable them.
Navigate to select Modify next to Modify Parental Restrictions and press ok to display the Parental Controls screen.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,436 posts)
27. Done it MANY times.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 12:03 PM
Nov 2021

Usually I just delete Fox from the channel lineup so the TV skips over it. It's quick to do.

I don't go into their private offices, or their homes, to change anything. It's the PUBLIC tv being shoved into customers' faces, where I am paying to be.

Personally, I'd like to see tv's banned from public places. Even when I am on a solo road trip, I'd rather sit at the bar to eat and either talk to others there or just read something, or just get a small table for myself. We don't need a damn TV everywhere we go.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,436 posts)
34. Better than leaving BS propaganda playing.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 12:59 PM
Nov 2021

Fox and rightwing Hate Radio are a big part of the reason this country is in such a bad place.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,436 posts)
36. One really wonders about such a defense of having RW hate on public TVs
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:17 PM
Nov 2021

being forced onto the public.

I change it, if they won't. I got a universal remote app & the USB dongle for my phone from Amazon. Best thing I ever got for getting rid of Fox on public TVs

Turning off the likes of Hannity, Ingram, and Field Marshall Carlson is indeed, as you said, a public service.

Icanthinkformyself

(223 posts)
6. I have a suggestion.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 10:11 AM
Nov 2021

Exercise your economic power and take the opportunity to spend more quality time with the kids. Go to the market, buy the ingredients and make pizza at home.
PS, make sure you advise the businesses why you are boycotting them. Post it on their social media page(s) so the community knows. The power of the purse is a vital tool we must learn to wield, and, in effect, use the tools of the oligarchs to fight back.

DFW

(54,518 posts)
10. No such thing here. I guess we're lucky.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 10:23 AM
Nov 2021

Of course cafés and delis usually don't have TV or radio running here anyway, and Fox was denied a license for a German language station here, since ant-Nazi laws are still on the books. The only laws restricting free speech here are the ones forbidding Nazi propaganda or anything deemed uncomfortably similar. Murdoch apparently qualified.

paleotn

(18,015 posts)
20. That had to sting.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:26 AM
Nov 2021

Banned from the largest industrial power in the EU. German good sense I suppose. Been there, done that, ain't going back.

DFW

(54,518 posts)
21. The radical right is trying for a comeback here, but there are not many takers
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:48 AM
Nov 2021

Here in Germany, you can steal $5000 from an old lady in broad daylight and break her walker into little pieces, and they will only give you a slap on the wrist, ask you to give it back, and say, "now, now gotta behave!" But actively using Nazi-like propaganda is one of the few non-firearm-involved crimes here that WILL get you jail time.

Fox didn't put up much of a fight. You can sue the German government, but you can't sue the German Constitution.

They had a brief, temporary revenge, when Trump selected Richard Grenell to be his ambassador to Germany. Grenell arrived saying he was here to promote far right ideas and organizations. Sly as always (MAN will she be missed!), Merkel didn't refuse his credentials and send him home right away. But she DID have him watched like a hawk, and he made little to no headway with his quest. The German press tore him a new one daily, and didn't last long here.

paleotn

(18,015 posts)
33. Glad Germans aren't falling for AfD....
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 12:57 PM
Nov 2021

like Americans have for our right wing populist nutters in the GOP. It seems they're popping up all over the west. They may be organic and not Russian grown, but Putin certainly isn't upset about it.

DFW

(54,518 posts)
39. Merkel was far too smart for them
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:24 PM
Nov 2021

The guy who repaired our phones recently was a Syrian immigrant who spoke fluent German. The doctor who gave me my Moderna booster shot was a Syrian immigrant who spoke fluent German (and decent Romanian and Italian).

She knew they were coming no matter what, and made assimilation a huge part of her program. It didn't work for all of them by any means, but it DID work for enough of them for Syrian success stories to be found all over western Germany. That took the wind out the sails of a lot of AfD activists who want to rail against letting the Syrians in. Their poor showing in the last election reflected this.

Whether or not the new coalition will be as clever in outwitting the rightist extremists remains to be seen. Merkel certainly left them a blueprint, but they have to be smart enough to follow it, and for that there is no guarantee. Many German politicians have a built-in "we know better" gene (even a typically German word for it: Besserwisser), that too often turns out to be false.

NJCher

(35,837 posts)
24. oh, so that's what it takes
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:51 AM
Nov 2021

Nazi laws on the books. Cheebus.

Fox was denied a license for a German language station here, since ant-Nazi laws are still on the books.

At least the Germans can learn from their mistakes, however, world-shaking and devastating as they may be. We don't seem to learn anything, nor are we capable of learning from others.

ShepKat

(383 posts)
11. happy to know !
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 10:47 AM
Nov 2021

I love when they show who they are. I want to spend my money appropriately and spending there would not be on my list. Home made food is better for ya anyway. Home made is still best. Always will be. Cheaper too

Escurumbele

(3,417 posts)
12. What is wrong with all those small businesses failing to understand the GOP doesn't care about
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:01 AM
Nov 2021

small businesses?

Talk about shooting yourself on the foot...Can't cure stupid.

Escurumbele

(3,417 posts)
14. Just call the establishment anonymously, you don't have to tell the whole World about it
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:07 AM
Nov 2021

You don't need to post anything, and least of all go into the establishment to change their TV settings, after all whether you like what is on their TV or not, it is THEIR TV and they can have anything they want on it, even if it makes them loose customers.

My DR used to have Fox news every time I went there, and I don't go too much to the Dr, she says I am her worst patient because I can go three years without a visit...anyway, I told her that having Fox on every day made a political statement that many of her patients would not like, including me...Guess what? she now has the DYI network, or whatever it is called.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
16. Had the same problem when I lived in West Michigan.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:16 AM
Nov 2021


Political signs in front of many small business properties. Waiting rooms TV with Faux news on.

Riverman100

(277 posts)
18. when I worked for sears
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:16 AM
Nov 2021

They had a tv in the electronics dept set on fox noise. I had to complain to HR to get them to change it. I used the logic of why would you piss off half your customers? It worked.

Freddie

(9,282 posts)
31. DH used to drive by a deli-type restaurant
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 12:19 PM
Nov 2021

Near his work. Always wanted to go there for lunch until they put out the TFG signs during the election. Nope. Couple months ago the place was destroyed in a mysterious fire. Hopefully the sign cut their business. Such a pity.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,436 posts)
35. Let them know.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:15 PM
Nov 2021

If the owner is a hardcore nutjob, it won't change anything and that's the cue to not go back and tell others to go elsewhere. I have often made note in reviews about the TV in restaurants, waiting areas and hotel breakfast rooms. Just suggest something "everyone might like", such as the travel channel, food channel or weather. A lot of places will do that when it's pointed out.

I complained to the front desk about Dobson's shitty "focus on the family" show being on in the breakfast room, the next day it was on a local channel, and every time I've stayed there since then it was on the local channel. If they're not allowed to change it, then ask management. Once you've made the polite effort up the ladder, if that doesn't work then mention it in reviews.

I once reviewed an otherwise fun bar w/ good food, left a great review about the atmosphere, food and service and worked in "but at dinnertime, few things are as stomach-churning as having a tv over your table with Trump's writhing maw going non-stop". The owner must have complained because my review was gone for a couple weeks, but then they put it back. We went in again, it was still on the TV so I let them know I wouldn't be bringing my group back.

If nothing works, and it's somewhere like a gym that you want to continue going to, there are universal remote apps for your phone. I got the USB dongle from Amazon for $10, it plugs into your phone's USB and functions perfectly most places. I've noticed that the average person never notices what channel the tv is on, they just mindlessly stare at it. If a tv is on Fox, I'll change it during a commercial, and that takes care of it.

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