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Demovictory9

(32,498 posts)
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:11 AM Jan 2022

More people died in Michigan in 2020 than were born. Impacts could be severe

More people died in Michigan in 2020 than were born, according to state records, the first time that has happened since at least 1900.

Michigan isn't the first state where that's happened, and it won't be the last. The national birth has been falling for years. But experts say that if Michigan can't start bringing in more immigrants and attracting residents from other states the way that places like Texas, Colorado and North Carolina have, it could spell serious problems for the economic future of the state.

Preliminary data from the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services shows 104,166 people were born in 2020 while 117,087 people died.

In Michigan, COVID drove those death numbers up from years prior — MDHHS says there were 11,362 COVID deaths in the state in 2020, which doesn't cover the 12,921 difference between births and deaths two years ago. That number is also more than 6% higher than the around 99,000 people who died in the state for each of the few years prior.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/01/26/michigan-deaths-exceed-births-first-time-economic-impacts/6580505001/

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More people died in Michigan in 2020 than were born. Impacts could be severe (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jan 2022 OP
It's too cold. ecstatic Jan 2022 #1
Wait a few years. Climate change will fix that. ret5hd Jan 2022 #3
Not really. NutmegYankee Jan 2022 #6
Man, my humor is really missing the mark lately. ret5hd Jan 2022 #7
After a few hours of digging out of snow, my humor is frozen solid. NutmegYankee Jan 2022 #8
Maybe so, but we've got the water. hedda_foil Jan 2022 #9
Along with the entire East... NutmegYankee Jan 2022 #10
Give me the cold any day over crappy places like FL or TX...seriously PortTack Jan 2022 #11
People move to Texas rownesheck Jan 2022 #13
The statistics...wow Deuxcents Jan 2022 #2
Well there's also people moving into and out of the state FakeNoose Jan 2022 #4
Correct..there are as many ppl moving OUT of Tx as there are moving in PortTack Jan 2022 #12
Exactly. Michigan has been losing population for years. shrike3 Jan 2022 #14
Retirees are leaving the state too. llmart Jan 2022 #15
Less traffic. roamer65 Jan 2022 #5

ecstatic

(32,802 posts)
1. It's too cold.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:25 AM
Jan 2022

I want to move to a border state so that I can have easier access to Canada if necessary but it's just too damn cold.

ret5hd

(20,566 posts)
3. Wait a few years. Climate change will fix that.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:38 AM
Jan 2022

Best go ahead and move…beat the rush. Florida underwater, Texas too hot to put asphalt on the roads…Detroit will boom again!

NutmegYankee

(16,207 posts)
6. Not really.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:59 AM
Jan 2022

While the average temp will increase and summers get hotter, the warming in the Arctic has weakened the jet stream and polar vortex, allowing more frequent brutal cold snaps. Freak snaps like the Texas freeze are predicted with climate change. In New England the increase in surface moisture and warmth to the south are expected to make heavy snow Nor’easters more common.

The 2010s were a decade of record heat in New England, but several states also set records for coldest February and snowiest winters/storms.

PortTack

(32,823 posts)
11. Give me the cold any day over crappy places like FL or TX...seriously
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:00 AM
Jan 2022

The problems in those states, other red states too is just too much to live a peaceful life.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
13. People move to Texas
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jan 2022

because it has a lower cost of living. But, you give up your humanity when you move/ live here. It seriously is a fucked up state with a lot of people who are fucked in the head. And it is run by psychopaths. After living here a while, you realize you fucked up by moving here. I was born here and I wish I could travel back in time to find my piece of shit ancestor who thought this would be a good place to live, and persuade them to reconsider.

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
4. Well there's also people moving into and out of the state
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:49 AM
Jan 2022

Births and deaths are only part of the picture. When factories close, people lose their jobs, some or many will leave the state. When factories and businesses open, new jobs are created and people move in.

The southern and western states have had a large influx of move-ins in the last 50 years, because of jobs or retirement or whatever. I don't know but I'm guessing that Michigan has been one of the "loser" states for factory closures and job losses. It's true for most of the midwestern rustbelt states.

shrike3

(3,886 posts)
14. Exactly. Michigan has been losing population for years.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jan 2022

For the exact reason you mentioned.

I grew up in Michigan. Wouldn't live there again, unless it were in a blue area. Michigan has some of the loveliest scenery I've ever seen.

llmart

(15,569 posts)
15. Retirees are leaving the state too.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jan 2022

Who wants to be stuck in the house because of the snow and cold? If they're not leaving, they're living in the South for at least 3 months.

It's also quite expensive to live in Michigan.

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