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Walleye

(31,110 posts)
1. I'm watching on the France 24 channel. They're doing a pretty good job of covering it
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 10:48 AM
Dec 2022

Don’t have closed captions on this though. It really looks like genuine affection and respect between the two men. Not the immature macho arm wrestling TFG

sarisataka

(18,857 posts)
2. Or..
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 10:50 AM
Dec 2022

For the hearing impaired who are using captions while lip reading to avoid confusion why the words don't match what it looks like he is saying.

sarisataka

(18,857 posts)
6. "Speaking in French"
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:05 AM
Dec 2022

"Speaking in Spanish"
"Speaking in German"
"Speaking in Cantonese"
"Speaking in Mandarin"
"Speaking in Urdu"
"Speaking in ...........

Or
"Speaking in non English" when likely 90+% of those lip reading do so for English.

In France I would expect the caption to be "Ne parle pas Français"

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,060 posts)
8. Euro leaders are often multi-lingual, beyond bi-lingual. Can't assume Fr Prez only speaks French
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:13 AM
Dec 2022

I think the captioners are not hired on their ability to tell one European language from another, though many could.

Further, the captioning service may have a policy to label ALL non-English as non-English. It would probably be the best policy, to avoid mistakes or embarrassing mistakes. To untutored ears, Ukrainian sounds rather like Russian. Imagine the hoo-hah that would ensue if they labelled a Ukrainian speaker as "Russian language" instead of "Ukrainian language" or "non-English".

I would have to look up Macron's language capabilities, but I not that interested at the moment.

Ocelot II

(115,926 posts)
11. Probably machine translation, and they don't have it wired up for French.
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:22 AM
Dec 2022

Most closed captioning is done by machine translation now, not by humans.

gab13by13

(21,473 posts)
3. People underestimate the power of propaganda
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 10:51 AM
Dec 2022

and the power of controlling the narrative.

I only watch Nicolle Wallace on cable and I listened to her yesterday using the word homeland over and over again. It pisses me off. It must revert back to her Bush days when W and Cheney started pushing the use of homeland. Is it so hard to say America or the United States instead of homeland?

Pretty soon the use of homeland will be replaced by Fatherland.

People now think a fence is a wall.

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
7. Republicans have been using Hitlers playbook for some time now
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:09 AM
Dec 2022

This isn't new we just are able to see and understand it better because they (the GOP) no longer try to hide it

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
15. I've seen that on tv shows with subtitles
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 01:04 PM
Dec 2022

A tv show in French or German or whatever with English subtitles. Then there’s a character who speaks in Dutch, and the caption reads, foreign language or done thing like that. I think it’s because captions are generated automatically and are programmed for one spoken language and one captioned language. A thing else returns an error message. Not political. Just cheap, lazy, and just don’t give a crap.

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