Sanna Marin Says Europe Would Be in Trouble Without U.S.

[applegrove]

Sanna Marin Says Europe Would Be in Trouble Without U.S.

December 3, 2022 at 8:50 am EST By Taegan Goddard 200 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/03/sanna-marin-says-europe-would-be-in-trouble-without-u-s/

"SNIP.......

Finnish prime minister Sanna Marin said Europe is “not strong enough” to stand up to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on its own, and has had to rely on U.S. support, the BBC BBC reports.

Said Marin: “I must be brutally honest with you, Europe isn’t strong enough right now. We would be in trouble without the United States.”

.......SNIP"

Applegrove:

Thank you USA.

[OnDoutside]

1. And as a European I completely agree. Thanks Joe Biden for

saving American democracy and giving us a fighting chance over here.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. We remain to this day the arsenal of democracy

[Emrys]

3. A simple statement of fact in terms of armaments.

That acknowledged, I believe she's arguing for European countries to step up in the future.

[WarGamer]

4. Silly nonsense.

Russia can't even take down Ukraine.

Even a US-Less Europe spanks Russia 100 ways from Sunday.

Except for the whole nuke thing... yeah MAD.

[Hekate]

6. Depends on what you mean by "take down." Ukraine still lives, crippled...

… and Putin (like Stalin) aims for genocide. He also seems to want to reduce every city to rubble.

As for our superior military might — it only works if we use it. Putin took Crimea, and all he got from the West was bleating protests.

Even on DU there has been a contingent who think that because the USSR once possessed The Ukraine, that it is reasonable for Putin to attempt to repossess the land by any means. According to this line of thinking, the US should be telling President Zelensky to negotiate with the same people who are committing grotesque war crimes on Ukrainian soil, and are bombing civilian sites to ankle-high rubble.

So the military might of NATO and the EU and the US? It only works if you use it.

[Red Mountain]

7. Have to disagree

Without US leadership how would it have played out?

IMHO, poorly for the Ukrainians. Europe would have been unable to provide enough support quickly enough.

An awful lot of that support originates in the EU but US commitments to EU allies made it happen.

A strong NATO is attracting new members.

[dickthegrouch]

5. Bullies, avarice and poverty are worldwide problems

The fix is VERY simple: use all that public money that's squandered on armaments today to ensure a minimum income, and healthcare, for everyone.

Yes, it puts a lot of the Military Industrial complex (murderers, or accessories to murder in any other context) out of work. Too bad. Find something more useful to do.

[EX500rider]

9. So if Russia/China/N Korea/Iran etc just had min income & healthcare..

...their leaders would be magically peaceful? lol

[Just A Box Of Rain]

8. Putin's forces likely would have overrun Ukraine w/o American arms and intelligence.

Our allies have also contributed massively to giving the brave Ukrainians critical resources critical support.

Sanna Marin's Finland will be a great addition to NATO.