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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:24 AM Dec 2022

Trump calls for suspension of constitution. I call for the termination of Trumps freedom.

Trump must be removed from our society. He is still talking sedition and now he is talking about ending the constitution, as he runs for president. He is without a doubt the biggest threat to our country. It is time to put an end to this traitor.

I believe Garland and Smith will end the nightmare called Trump. It's no longer, should, will, Trump be indicted. It is now, Trump must be indicted.

If the indictment, conviction, imprisonment, of Trump leads to some violence, chaos, So be it. We have to end this. We have to go through the pain of of convicting a former president who turned traitor.

I will consider this growing pains for our nation. It's time for our nation to grow up.

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Trump calls for suspension of constitution. I call for the termination of Trumps freedom. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Dec 2022 OP
sedition/treason/insurrection/coup...BINGO! agingdem Dec 2022 #1
It needs to be said. kentuck Dec 2022 #2
+1000 Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #3
Next he's going to call for violent overthrow of the government PCIntern Dec 2022 #4
That is exactly what he meant here malaise Dec 2022 #7
Desperate attempt to avoid prosecution for his crimes wnylib Dec 2022 #18
They will fail again malaise Dec 2022 #21
I agree. But how much damage will be done wnylib Dec 2022 #32
Feces is getting real IzzaNuDay Dec 2022 #5
Trump and associates have always been traitors. MayReasonRule Dec 2022 #6
Just another part of trump's treason game SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #8
They are just patriots who love this country. boston bean Dec 2022 #9
Growing Pains, Yes. E. Normus Dec 2022 #10
Yea, rip it off! And Welcome to DU! flying_wahini Dec 2022 #19
I am not a lawyer but sure seems to be he has bypassed, Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #35
From Heather Cox Richardson today... RobertDevereaux Dec 2022 #11
Something the weasel Chuck Todd said the other day actually rings true Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #13
Put him in the same cell block as the oath keepers SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #12
Trump's statement should be hung like an albatross around the neck of every Republican Martin Eden Dec 2022 #14
Absolutely Rebl2 Dec 2022 #29
Seriously, when he getting the perp walk LittleGirl Dec 2022 #15
Trump isn't the biggest threat to the country. His followers are. Cyrano Dec 2022 #16
Not so fast, pal. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #17
Fascinating post malaise Dec 2022 #26
malaise. You are totally correct. "This time Slobby will pay" Here is why..Trump has proved he's Stuart G Dec 2022 #37
Totally desperate is more like it Stuart G malaise Dec 2022 #38
You got it again....."Totally desperate" Stuart G Dec 2022 #39
Oh, I hope to be proven wrong all over this thing. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #40
He will probably arrange his own killing and have his goons malaise Dec 2022 #41
Exhausted despair. Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #36
I approve of Trump being charged on Jan. 21, 2024 ouija Dec 2022 #20
So we are to trash the Constitution, disband the congress, fire the judges and install Trump as Chainfire Dec 2022 #22
They don't sagetea Dec 2022 #23
Ban him to Russia so he can be with his BFF Putin! nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #24
Ignoring the Constitution isn't a good way to respond to Trump's call to ignore the Constitution onenote Dec 2022 #48
Not suggesting to ignore the Constitution nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #49
Actually you were. onenote Dec 2022 #50
Exactly what a dictator would want. GreenWave Dec 2022 #25
Finally we will see where the Republican Party stands... AngryOldDem Dec 2022 #27
Yeah, they're saying they're fine with it FakeNoose Dec 2022 #44
I believe suspension of the Constitution was the plan Trump formulated with his advisors (Stone, Martin68 Dec 2022 #28
This is the same man who swore to uphold the constitution when inaugurated. Paper Roses Dec 2022 #30
Trump is a fascist just like his father. His father taught him well. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #31
TFG needs his Depends changed. He gets cranky & batshit crazy when they are filled with poop. Tommymac Dec 2022 #33
K and R Thanks .. With this statement Trump has terminated all chances for election to "ANYTHING" Stuart G Dec 2022 #34
A True Menace to Society Beetwasher. Dec 2022 #42
I can't call for what I'd like to see happen. roamer65 Dec 2022 #43
K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R TigressDem Dec 2022 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2022 #46
Straight out of authoritarian playbook." LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #47

agingdem

(7,870 posts)
1. sedition/treason/insurrection/coup...BINGO!
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:38 AM
Dec 2022

Last edited Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:16 AM - Edit history (2)

I want the deranged sonofabitch muzzled but the more he spews his vomitus bilge the more he confesses..."openly, transparently" (stealing classified documents)..his latest confession is that of a cornered rabid animal... he wants his "toy" back.. the Oval Office=immunity from prosecution..

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
2. It needs to be said.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:47 AM
Dec 2022

A jury of his "peers" should decide the punishment for his crimes.

He may think there are no "peers", but in the eyes of the law, we are all "peers".

PCIntern

(25,623 posts)
4. Next he's going to call for violent overthrow of the government
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:52 AM
Dec 2022

Which, AFAIC, he’s already done by inference. Last I looked, this was a serious federal crime and in some instances it is a capital offense.

What’s it gonna take? Does he have to shoot an elected official on Fifth Avenue? Or is that okay as well?

wnylib

(21,724 posts)
18. Desperate attempt to avoid prosecution for his crimes
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:05 AM
Dec 2022

by stirring up anti government, anti democracy people to violence. Trump's high level backers and his followers are willing to go the revolution route to get their way.

wnylib

(21,724 posts)
32. I agree. But how much damage will be done
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 12:03 PM
Dec 2022

in the process, and how many people hurt?

And to think that I actually felt guilty for wishing him a bad outcome when he had covid.

IzzaNuDay

(363 posts)
5. Feces is getting real
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:55 AM
Dec 2022

As long as 45 spouts out this nonsense, his followers will do whatever they can to make this real. Well, they almost succeeded on J6. This sounds more like “at first, if you don’t succeed, then try again.

Since the alleged seditionists in the House were never censured nor expelled from Congress, the potential for another overturn is also there.

MayReasonRule

(1,463 posts)
6. Trump and associates have always been traitors.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:03 AM
Dec 2022

Trump didn't just turn into a traitor after becoming president.

Trump has always been a traitor, through and through.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
8. Just another part of trump's treason game
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:06 AM
Dec 2022

Why he is still allowed the freedom he doesn't deserve is beyond me. He spits in the face of every soldier that died defending us.

E. Normus

(79 posts)
10. Growing Pains, Yes.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:22 AM
Dec 2022

Growing up, absolutely. Hey, there is already chaos and violence because of this traitorous cretin. Rip off the band aid and lets move forward already!

RobertDevereaux

(1,858 posts)
11. From Heather Cox Richardson today...
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:22 AM
Dec 2022

“But the real story here is not Trump’s panic about his fading relevance and his legal exposure; it’s that Trump remains the presumptive presidential nominee for the Republican Party in 2024. The leader of the Republican Party has just called for the overthrow of our fundamental law and the installation of a dictator.

“White House Deputy Press Secretary Andrew Bates said in a statement: “The American Constitution is a sacrosanct document that for over 200 years has guaranteed that freedom and the rule of law prevail in our great country. The Constitution brings the American people together—regardless of party—and elected leaders swear to uphold it. It’s the ultimate monument to all of the Americans who have given their lives to defeat self-serving despots that abused their power and trampled on fundamental rights. Attacking the Constitution and all it stands for is anathema to the soul of our nation, and should be universally condemned. You cannot only love America when you win.”

“But Republicans, so far, are silent on Trump’s profound attack on the Constitution, the basis of our democratic government.

“That is the story, and it is earth shattering.”

Mr. Ected

(9,674 posts)
13. Something the weasel Chuck Todd said the other day actually rings true
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:29 AM
Dec 2022

We know who the Never Trumpers are. Now we need to find out who the Only Trumpers are.

From Congressional Republicans' silence on the issue, one will have to assume ALL of them are.

Martin Eden

(12,881 posts)
14. Trump's statement should be hung like an albatross around the neck of every Republican
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:30 AM
Dec 2022

Who ever supported him.

The major media should doggedly confront every MAGA politician with it, demanding an answer as to whether or not they will now denounce Trump and kick him out of their Party.

Rebl2

(13,580 posts)
29. Absolutely
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:32 AM
Dec 2022

Unfortunately major media is not brave enough to go after MAGA politicians demanding to know if they support tfg. The Republican Party that I used to know does not exist. It has become the cult of trump.

LittleGirl

(8,292 posts)
15. Seriously, when he getting the perp walk
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:36 AM
Dec 2022

we are all looking for? Wtf is taking so goddamn long?
Isn’t his latest missive proof that he is a traitor to our constitution?
Lock him up!

Cyrano

(15,073 posts)
16. Trump isn't the biggest threat to the country. His followers are.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:00 AM
Dec 2022

Too bad this self-delusional person came along to open the gates of hell. He's got the reverse Midas Touch. Everything he touches turns to shit. But there are evidently millions of Americans who like it that way. They watch Fox "news," they gobble up every iota of wingnut crap flying around the web, they hang on every thought that drools from the orange creatures mouth, and they no longer have any sense of reality.

They want Trump to be "Dear Leader," and if he can't be, they'll "take to the streets." They are the greatest threat to our country, our freedoms and our way of life.

jaxexpat

(6,865 posts)
17. Not so fast, pal.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:02 AM
Dec 2022

It takes a lot more than provable guilt to remove an oligarch from American society. We didn't even imprison the officers who lead brutal military campaigns against the union at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives. Wouldn't be seemly to go around arresting and imprisoning the scions of wealthy families for simply speaking their minds. I mean, who did they harm anyway? Their fellow autocrats didn't suffer, did they? So, what if a few million minions get mislead into supporting an insurrection. Mice in a cage will act like mice after all. Minions will be minions.

Who's complaining? The usual loud mouths who still like to think their concerns have any value in a system that entitles them to "rights"? Certainly not those who worship the (read in a deeply profound inner voice) American Justice System. That system which has adopted every civilized legalistic manipulation devised over millennia thro...... blah blah blah......ous to provide liberty and justice for all! AMEN! Those people are too busy being freaking knocked over by the realization that their precious system is totally incapable of saving anything, even itself. Unable to even find a single enforceable pronouncement to define the "live on tee vee" evidence everybody's already seen with their own eyes. That's why its officially ignored in a mad ploy to convince enough people that it never even happened at all.

It's the sixties all over again: every protest for justice is put down extra hard to satisfy the urges of the brutalists (and their mothers) in our midst while those protesting give themselves over to disillusion and, ultimately, exhausted despair. It will continue thus until some bright lad finds the perfect war scenario to magically dispel the phantom inflation fraud by plundering some poor people somewhere to cough up a little extra for the cause. That, my friends, is the actual proof the world is not flat.

Stuart G

(38,454 posts)
37. malaise. You are totally correct. "This time Slobby will pay" Here is why..Trump has proved he's
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:47 PM
Dec 2022
TOTALLY NUTS." (totally nuts to most people) I got to add that one.

Trump will pay because that is the..."final straw." .................."Final Straw"...meaning while most people

will give Trump room, (a lot of room)..to say this & that, but this statement today proves to most people & to most professional politicians of both parties, that Trump is ....NUTS..... It is simple................

.Here is the simple argument..." that Donald Trump is NUTS..."


1. We did NOT suspend the Constitution during the Civil War..(we fought to protect it, & Lincoln was great!)

2. We did NOT suspend the Constitution during World War I...Did we?

3. We did NOT suspend the Constitution during World War II..Did we?

4. We did NOT suspend the Constitution following Kennedy's Assassination. Did We?

5. We did NOT suspend the Constitution during Nison's Watergate hearings Did We?

6. We did NOT suspend the Constitution after 9/11 ...Did We?...

Well that is enough proof that Trump's statement is far beyond the..." Loony Toons"
(apologies to all toon fans out there.)

Donald Trump just proved to most knowledgeable people that care about the U.S.A..................

.........................that he is.. "TOTALLY NUTS!!!!"

malaise

(269,250 posts)
38. Totally desperate is more like it Stuart G
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:50 PM
Dec 2022

That noose his goons set up for Pence and Pelosi is getting closer to him

jaxexpat

(6,865 posts)
40. Oh, I hope to be proven wrong all over this thing.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 04:24 PM
Dec 2022

But can you imagine a scenario in which TFG actually spends time in any kind of prison before every conceivable excuse not to convict him has been exhausted and re-exhausted and pigeonholed off to the side just in case there's another reason somebody, perhaps yet unborn, can think of to explain why he shouldn't go to jail?

It has taken about 2 years to get permission to tell him "no, bad ex-president". It'll take another 2 years to disconnect his prosecution from his fake presidential campaign. When he loses in 2024, it'll keep the courts busy for another 2 years proving the government's prosecution wasn't the reason for his loss. If Republicans gain anything in 2024 the prosecution may well be forced to just abandon the case.

In the face of that kind of thinking I find it hard to feel positive. We're 23 months in and the lousy SOB is still at large. TFG in cuffs, just once before I go to that big complaint department and whiner convention in the sky I wanna see TGF in cuffs and an orange jump suit. (Manacles would be a nice touch, too.)

malaise

(269,250 posts)
41. He will probably arrange his own killing and have his goons
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 04:35 PM
Dec 2022

blame someone else. He knows it's the endgame and has no plan to deal with the consequences of a life sprinkled with racism, woman-hating, criminality, entitlement and vulgarity. He's a detestable creep.

Chainfire

(17,694 posts)
22. So we are to trash the Constitution, disband the congress, fire the judges and install Trump as
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:51 AM
Dec 2022

Emperor. Now, tell me, why would we do this?

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
24. Ban him to Russia so he can be with his BFF Putin!
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:55 AM
Dec 2022

If they won't arrest and charge him, at least expel him from the United States!

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
49. Not suggesting to ignore the Constitution
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 11:07 AM
Dec 2022

The man at the very least is guilty of treason and sedition and deserves expulsion. No, there has not been an arrest, trial or conviction. But have you not seen nor heard enough regarding tRump from January 6, 2021 until now to form an opinion? That is all mine is, opinion that tRump is guilty and is the greatest single threat the United States of America faces at present.

onenote

(42,807 posts)
50. Actually you were.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:02 PM
Dec 2022

You were suggesting he be expelled without due process (i.e., having been arrested or charged with a crime and tried).

Glad to see you walking back your post, sort of.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
27. Finally we will see where the Republican Party stands...
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:15 AM
Dec 2022

…as well as who and what they are.

They’ve been kicking this piece of shit down the road since 2015. The day of reckoning has finally come. Which side are you on, GOP? Fascism or democracy? You now MUST pick a side. And OWN IT.

Martin68

(22,936 posts)
28. I believe suspension of the Constitution was the plan Trump formulated with his advisors (Stone,
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:21 AM
Dec 2022

Flynn, Bannon, et al) in conjunction with the Oath Keepers and The Proud Boys. Trump was supposed to declare martial law (which suspends the Constitution) and call on militias(Proud Boys et.) to enforce a takeover of the electoral system. It seems to me that maybe rump chickened out when Pence, Barr, and a few others refused to go along with the plan.

Paper Roses

(7,475 posts)
30. This is the same man who swore to uphold the constitution when inaugurated.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:38 AM
Dec 2022

Now he wants to do away with this same constitution. I can only hope that the American people have finally see what this man is. A liar, crook, and a would-be dictator.

Edited to add: I just went to all the news sites that I follow. Why is this not big news" No mention. Makes me angry that this is not highlighted. Trump is a danger to the country. I think this is a major story and should be a headline of the front pages of all of these news outlets.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
33. TFG needs his Depends changed. He gets cranky & batshit crazy when they are filled with poop.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:20 PM
Dec 2022

Which they almost always are.

Stuart G

(38,454 posts)
34. K and R Thanks .. With this statement Trump has terminated all chances for election to "ANYTHING"
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 02:25 PM
Dec 2022
"ANYTHING FOR EVER AND EVER" ....TRUMP IS NUTS, AND THIS STATEMENT PROVES IT.

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