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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:53 PM Dec 2022

I cannot recall a time when there were not at least 2 or 3 Republicans who I just

literally despised. Nixon, Agnew, Gingrich, W Bush and Trent Lott come to mind. I disagreed with most of what the rest of the GOP stood for, but they did not raise the hair on the back of my neck like those named.

But, today, despicable people are the rule, not the exception, in the Republican party: Trump, Pence, McConnell, McCarthy, Taylor-Greene, Boebert, Gaetz, Biggs ,Gosar, Jordan, Gohmert, Miller, Cruz, Cotton, Paul, Graham, Kennedy, Rubio, DeSantis, Abbot, Noem -----------. We all could add dozens to that list, but the point is that these radical soulless extremists ARE the GOP now.

The Democratic Party is a traditional major political party trying to better govern this nation for the benefit of all its citizens. Currently, there is no other traditional major political party in this country. The GOP has devolved into a neurotic blustering personality cult led by a mentally unstable ancient child.

Clearly, the fate of American democracy is up to us.

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I cannot recall a time when there were not at least 2 or 3 Republicans who I just (Original Post) Atticus Dec 2022 OP
...darth cheney, rumsfuck, condi, tom delay... fun game--so many to despise nt orleans Dec 2022 #1
orleans.............. Upthevibe Dec 2022 #4
...Phil Graham, George Allen, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Al D'Amato, Eric Cantor, Grins Dec 2022 #35
Sarah Palin, Susan Collins, Sarah Huckabee Blue Owl Dec 2022 #38
Al D'Amato looks like a Saint compared to the rest Polybius Dec 2022 #49
Oh, yeah. I thought Sen. Jessie Helms was the worst person. NCjack Dec 2022 #71
Emmer, Fischbach, Stauber, Finstad geardaddy Dec 2022 #52
Sen.Phil Graham will carry the stench of ENRON forever. oasis Dec 2022 #65
Marsha Blackheart Meadowoak Dec 2022 #2
Lol Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #16
I lived in Clarksville briefly. I can tell you her last name is got what her elected. peppertree Dec 2022 #63
The little minions: Scott Walker,Paul Ryan, then Ron Johnson. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #3
Include the three stooges from Florida on your list. rubbersole Dec 2022 #5
Three Stooges "from Florida" BOSSHOG Dec 2022 #8
And at the state level as well BOSSHOG Dec 2022 #6
Pennsylvania's got some too!! MyOwnPeace Dec 2022 #54
Gym Jordan RazBerryBeret Dec 2022 #62
Gym Jordan RazBerryBeret Dec 2022 #74
Thankfully Gohmert is gone for the moment. pecosbob Dec 2022 #7
I still find it hard to believe that ass was a judge for years before entering Congress. halfulglas Dec 2022 #19
Cannon in Florida...... MyOwnPeace Dec 2022 #55
Today's Republicans are different. hay rick Dec 2022 #9
And it's working. rubbersole Dec 2022 #15
I am just so tired of it. Dead tired. Murphyb849 Dec 2022 #10
Ditto! nancy1942 Dec 2022 #11
Me too Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #17
Right there with ya, Murphyb849. calimary Dec 2022 #34
I think Codifer Dec 2022 #75
We're not seeing "normal" republicans anymore. The Unmitigated Gall Dec 2022 #12
We are actually seeing the natural progression of Conservative ideology. Caliman73 Dec 2022 #66
Yes I also despise the corrupt Supremecist Court members Nululu Dec 2022 #13
The "inferior" court is ridiculous now. A clown show. Solomon Dec 2022 #44
Clown show indeed. Nululu Dec 2022 #64
Amen to that. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #14
Add Santorum Astraea Dec 2022 #18
Oh, and Strom Thurmond Astraea Dec 2022 #21
He was targeted at dodge ball no doubt. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #42
All of them.. sagetea Dec 2022 #20
Mayor John V Lindsay, Charles Goodell electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #36
Charlie Goodell! I remember him well. DFW Dec 2022 #40
Very cool. It was a different era. I supported those two because... electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #60
I don't remember EVER visiting a major politician at home. DFW Dec 2022 #68
Nelson Rockefeller and John Heinz....... MyOwnPeace Dec 2022 #56
Mark Hatfield from Oregon. Permanut Dec 2022 #61
I can barely remember a time when I found Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #22
The last two decent ones I can think of were John Chaffee and Mark Hatfield. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #25
I became aware of politics around 1955 soldierant Dec 2022 #23
And uh, oh yeah, this one . . . NBachers Dec 2022 #24
Grassley...and the power behind the minions Koch and other billionaire JT45242 Dec 2022 #26
In a way I am "glad" rethugs won the house, cuz we need childfreebychoice Dec 2022 #27
This thread Cheezoholic Dec 2022 #28
Gangsters Of Putin merged with the U.S. Taliban, directed by Fascist Oligarch eXtremists. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #29
I remember when the GOP wheeled racist Strom Thurmond in for a vote, simpler times. sarcasmo Dec 2022 #30
It would be harder to find 2 or 3 Republicans whom I don't despise Orrex Dec 2022 #31
I can think of 2 I don't absolutely loathe and despise. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #39
I actually have some degree of respect for Lisa Murkowski Tom Rinaldo Dec 2022 #45
I agree with everything you said about Murkowski and Collins. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #72
Gym Jordon and MTG are the worst. DeSantis has no soul BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #32
It's all a scheme to own the libs. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2022 #33
The Pillow fuck Blue Owl Dec 2022 #37
Reagan. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #41
Same. I was an apolitical 14-year-old, and then that fucker came along. Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #70
Don't forget mgardener Dec 2022 #43
Phil Gramm, Ted Cruz, ... Trueblue Texan Dec 2022 #46
I'll throw in Kay Granger. joshdawg Dec 2022 #51
Mitch McConnell, Mitch McConnell, Mitch McConnell. "The Absolute WORST" Stuart G Dec 2022 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Stuart G Dec 2022 #48
Sodium Bicarbonate lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #50
They represent their deplorable voters IronLionZion Dec 2022 #53
VERY good point! MyOwnPeace Dec 2022 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #58
Hive minded ENO in 2024 Dec 2022 #59
I go all the way back Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #67
Ronnie Raygun Scottie Mom Dec 2022 #69
But, today, despicable people are the rule, not the exception, Submariner Dec 2022 #73

Upthevibe

(8,102 posts)
4. orleans..............
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:16 PM
Dec 2022

Tom Delay and effing Dennis Hastert (for God's sake)!

They've had horrible people; and their constitutes have been clueless, and in some cases, every bit as hateful and criminal.

Grins

(7,257 posts)
35. ...Phil Graham, George Allen, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Al D'Amato, Eric Cantor,
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 12:54 AM
Dec 2022

…just off the top of my head. There are just so damn many of them!

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
71. Oh, yeah. I thought Sen. Jessie Helms was the worst person.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:15 PM
Dec 2022

Then I met Sen. Al "Pothole" D'Amato, up close. Close enough for him to blow his cigar smoke in my face.

peppertree

(21,711 posts)
63. I lived in Clarksville briefly. I can tell you her last name is got what her elected.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 03:38 PM
Dec 2022

"We dunno much about her policies," a TN Repug might tell you. "But we sure love the sound of her name!"

BOSSHOG

(37,144 posts)
8. Three Stooges "from Florida"
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:25 PM
Dec 2022

Thanks for the clarification.

I thought the three stooges were gorsuch, drunken frat boy and cone head.

My sympathies. And you can throw in gaetz.

BOSSHOG

(37,144 posts)
6. And at the state level as well
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:22 PM
Dec 2022

The Neanderthals with their antics and plotting here in Kansas rule the state legislature. I have every confidence that any DUEr living in a red state has their blood pressure rise at the mention of a name or names of someone in their state house or senate.

MyOwnPeace

(16,951 posts)
54. Pennsylvania's got some too!!
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 01:28 PM
Dec 2022

Perry (US Rep.) is one of the 21 that voted against the US Capitol Cops getting the medals (but Jack Smith is after his 'records!') and of course, our own BUS-BOY (sponsored a busload of people to DC for Jan. 6 'tour') and wanted to be our governor, Doug Masturbato.

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
62. Gym Jordan
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 03:18 PM
Dec 2022

Can raise my hackles immediately, and he post so much on twitter. I don’t follow him but he shows up on my page

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
74. Gym Jordan
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:30 PM
Dec 2022

Can raise my hackles immediately, and he posts so much on twitter. I don’t follow him but he shows up on my page

pecosbob

(7,548 posts)
7. Thankfully Gohmert is gone for the moment.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:22 PM
Dec 2022

And while northeast Texas' CD1 may be the most racist place I've ever been, it's constituents will have to look long and hard to find anyone as stupid as Gohmert.

hay rick

(7,656 posts)
9. Today's Republicans are different.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:33 PM
Dec 2022

A critical mass of Republicans have come up through a system of money-saturated primaries. The first rule for the current crop of Republican candidates and elected officials is: obey the money. Those with principles have been systematically weeded out. Mc Connell said they will tell you what their platform is when they are elected. They can't tell you in advance because they haven't been told yet themselves.

Survival in this environment favors certain personality traits and behaviors. A Republican politician's willingness to lie to voters is not seen as a character defect, it is a prerequisite for doing the mercenary work required by those who bought their souls and services.

They are a cancerous growth on our democracy.

Murphyb849

(572 posts)
10. I am just so tired of it. Dead tired.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:33 PM
Dec 2022

We have been living in the seventh level of hell since 2015. I am tired of Trump, his face, his voice, his "truths" and his cult of Nazi deplorables.
I actually hate him.
And I will hate him until I die.
And probably after that.

Codifer

(548 posts)
75. I think
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:35 PM
Dec 2022

that there will be alot of hating that treasonous asshat for eternity... if that is really a thing that is possible.

I'm dying to find out.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,837 posts)
12. We're not seeing "normal" republicans anymore.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:43 PM
Dec 2022

We’re seeing authoritarians. Fascists.

Their character structure is revolting. Liars. Gaslighters. Simpering and groveling to the “leader” while stepping all over the weak, people who can’t fight back.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
66. We are actually seeing the natural progression of Conservative ideology.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 04:02 PM
Dec 2022

Someone once called Conservatism, "ineffectual fascism". I tend to agree with that assumption. While the two ideologies are not the same, they are cousins.

I never bought into the idea that Conservatives just want "smaller government", "fiscal responsibility", and "family values". Conservatism at its core, is the belief that society is best structured as a hierarchy with the "best people" at the top. The ideology was developed when Monarchy was being challenged by the American and French Revolutions with Hobbes' earlier precursor during the English Civil War (Cromwell). American Conservatives (if you can call them that) during the Revolutionary period were the Loyalists, who wanted to remain under King George. While we cast off monarchy, we did not cast of the belief system behind monarchy. People still (even the Founders) had the idea that the "mob" should have no power. Some of them thought Black people were not citizens and the indigenous people were "near White" but savage, however, once their land was desired, the indigenous actually stated being depicted in the same way Black people were.

Conservatism, left unrestrained, will always be subsumed into more radical right wing ideologies, and will develop into some kind of authoritarian regime, including fascism.

The "normal" Republicans/Conservatives started to vanish as soon as right wingers developed their own media ecosystem. When there was a more unified "mainstream" media, Conservatives had to at least appear to be normal. They had to compromise. Once Nixon was forced to resign, Conservative said, "never again" and started working on a concerted effort to develop a message machine through radio and television. The internet boosted this plan and now you can go your whole life without ever hearing actual journalism, all the while believing that JFK Jr. is coming back from the dead to be Trump's VP and fight the child trafficking cabal lead by Hillary Clinton.

electric_blue68

(15,000 posts)
36. Mayor John V Lindsay, Charles Goodell
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 12:56 AM
Dec 2022

Both Liberal Republicans in the '60s, 1970.

I was already involved in political stuff but not eligible to vote yet.
These are the only two Republicans I ever supported.

DFW

(54,483 posts)
40. Charlie Goodell! I remember him well.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 04:40 AM
Dec 2022

He used to come over to the house sometimes, since he was a friend of my dad’s. My father was unofficially named the “dean” of the New York reporters in Washington, so he knew all of those guys pretty well, from Jake Javits onward. A different era.

electric_blue68

(15,000 posts)
60. Very cool. It was a different era. I supported those two because...
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 02:49 PM
Dec 2022

Lindsey bc the Democratic Candidate (🤔 ? Mario Procaccino) was more conservative on Social issues.

Jake Javits - more hazy in memory probably not changing more liberally on certain issues is my guess.
I'll have to look up that race. 👍

🤔 The only politian who's house I visited with other young Democratic activists was Ted Weiss.

DFW

(54,483 posts)
68. I don't remember EVER visiting a major politician at home.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 04:30 PM
Dec 2022

LOTS of them used to visit us, and I'm sure my parents used to go to their places, but I was either too young or already out of the house to accompany them on most of their social visits.

MyOwnPeace

(16,951 posts)
56. Nelson Rockefeller and John Heinz.......
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 01:33 PM
Dec 2022

Rockefeller died of an erection and Heinz in a helicopter crash.......

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
22. I can barely remember a time when I found
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:02 PM
Dec 2022

more than 2 or 3 of them remotely likable. Off the top of my head, I didn't find Lowell Weicker and Millicent Fenwick despicable. But they'd be Democrats now, without a doubt.

GoCubsGo

(32,100 posts)
25. The last two decent ones I can think of were John Chaffee and Mark Hatfield.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:20 PM
Dec 2022

I think they probably would have wound up becoming Dems, as well. Chaffee's son, Lincoln, is not contemptible, even though he seems to have settled on being a Libertarian, after trying to run for office as a Democrat. Not sure why he didn't stick with the Dems, but he doesn't suck the way current Republicans do.

soldierant

(6,945 posts)
23. I became aware of politics around 1955
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:10 PM
Dec 2022

when I was about 10. During the Eisenhower administration. I, and the voters in my family, preferred Adlai, but didn't despise Ike. But - McCarthy, both Hoovers - yeah, there were pretty much always some. Though there was also George Wallace (Dem) and MarkHatfield (R). Until the Democratic party became the party of civil rights, and the Republicans - not so much, it wasn't nearly as clear where the evil in American politics was as it is today. But it's certainly clear now.

JT45242

(2,314 posts)
26. Grassley...and the power behind the minions Koch and other billionaire
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:21 PM
Dec 2022

The minions are reprehensible, but after citizen united it is like a hydra... If you defeat one. The billionaire bullies running the party from the shadows and the federalist society replace with two even more reprehensible.

Unless we get a lot more than 60 percent to bother to show up to vote, it will get a lot worse.

childfreebychoice

(476 posts)
27. In a way I am "glad" rethugs won the house, cuz we need
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:28 PM
Dec 2022

To keep dems riled up, motivated to turn out, big time in, '24, espec with so many dem sen seats up for grabs.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,544 posts)
29. Gangsters Of Putin merged with the U.S. Taliban, directed by Fascist Oligarch eXtremists.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:37 PM
Dec 2022

They have self-selected for extremism since the Lewis Powell memo and the Southern strategy.

ShazzieB

(16,609 posts)
39. I can think of 2 I don't absolutely loathe and despise.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 04:18 AM
Dec 2022

I may catch hell for this post, but I'm feeling really good after Warnock's win last night, so here goes.

I don't totally despise Lisa Murkowski or Susan Collins. Even though Collins is annoying as fuck at times, both of them have done the right thing at least on occasion. Not saying I'm a huge fan, but they're nowhere as despicable as some of their colleagues.

Mitt Romney is also not a complete asshole, at least not 100% of the time. Could use more backbone and a few more brain cells, but I don't feel the same level of baked in evil as I do with some others (TFG, McTurtle, Cancun Cruz, etc.).

Please note, I'm not saying I'm a big fan of Mitt, Susan, or Lisa. I'm just saying they don't feel like Satan personified to me, and I think I could be in the same room with any of them for a few minutes without having to fight the urge to punch them in the face. The list of Republicans I could not say that about is much, much longer!

Tom Rinaldo

(22,919 posts)
45. I actually have some degree of respect for Lisa Murkowski
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:42 AM
Dec 2022

Of course I would never support her against any decent competitive Democrat, the best thing I can say about her politics is that she is a centrist in a party of right wingers. But she does sometimes stand up against her party on issues that she cares about. Collins I don't really respect, but I acknowledge that she is not one of the really bad ones. I will always give Romney some credit for voting to impeach Trump twice, but he has disappointed me time and again for not being a strong enough voice within the Republican Party against Trump, He could have been a real leader.

ShazzieB

(16,609 posts)
72. I agree with everything you said about Murkowski and Collins.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:20 PM
Dec 2022

Also agree that Mitt definitely needs more of a spine. I don't think he likes a lot of what's going on in his party, and if he could find the courage to take a stand, he might be able to make a real difference.

But the fact that he, Collins, and Murkowski all voted to remove Trump is a is big plus for all 3 of them, afaic.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,175 posts)
33. It's all a scheme to own the libs.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 12:31 AM
Dec 2022

If we have a great candidate, they elect a terrible one. See how they own us?

Sky Jewels

(7,192 posts)
70. Same. I was an apolitical 14-year-old, and then that fucker came along.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 05:21 PM
Dec 2022

Turned me into an instant outspoken liberal.

So, I guess he did one good thing.

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lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
50. Sodium Bicarbonate
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 10:39 AM
Dec 2022

Mix about 100 boxes baking soda in just enough water for suspension. Spray both houses of congress liberally with solution. The Democrats will only need to dry off and change clothes. The Republicans will all be melting from all the corrosion they've developed, bubbling and disintegrating like the wicked witch in Oz.

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ENO in 2024

(82 posts)
59. Hive minded
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 02:39 PM
Dec 2022

Thugs are so horrible and I want to mention my congressman insurrectionist August Plfuger. Don't forget this ______ p____. Ran unopposed. We have to fill all ballots with candidates. Holy crap, I'll frickin do it.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,042 posts)
67. I go all the way back
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 04:13 PM
Dec 2022

to Joseph R. McCarthy, who unfortunately was at one time our senator from Wisconsin when I lived there, and a guy from North Dakota who I heard my dad refer to so often as "that ass Karl Mundt" that when I was 7 or 8 I thought "That Ass" was his real first name!

Gym Jordan. Paul Gooser. Andy Biggity. Tommy Tuberville. And of course Russian Ron Johnson.

Submariner

(12,513 posts)
73. But, today, despicable people are the rule, not the exception,
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:04 PM
Dec 2022

IMO, you can thank the Scalia Coup of December 12, 2000, who gave us the guy who didn't keep the country safe and lost both his revenge wars, before appointing the racist Roberts and anti-women Alito to the supremes.

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