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Beachnutt

(7,356 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:10 PM Dec 2022

Should the people of this country that have

fallen victim to the brainwashing of fox, facebook, brietbart, limbaugh, etc.. be condemned and shunned or hated or should they be looked upon as mentally sick victims of the rightwing coorperate media, corrupt politicians and the religious rightwing con men known as evangelicals..
I have many family members that have been suckered and I don't know if they will ever regain sanity.
Will they ever come back to reality ?

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Should the people of this country that have (Original Post) Beachnutt Dec 2022 OP
I see them as a cult and it is really tough to deprogram cult members NewHendoLib Dec 2022 #1
I have little to no hope for some of my family. Deuxcents Dec 2022 #2
Exactly. Rush Limbo ruined my parents. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #4
Yes you really do I suppose no matter what. Beachnutt Dec 2022 #6
I have lost most all my old friends Beachnutt Dec 2022 #5
No. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #3
Keep the faith Nululu Dec 2022 #7
I still speak but do not engage in any conversation with them. I find with the MAGAts doc03 Dec 2022 #8
Oh great spirit that can't be smelled or measured, make this food poison everyone not like me. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #12
Thank Gawd for McD doc03 Dec 2022 #16
I had to turn on video recording recently Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #9
Or should we treat them as people? Sympthsical Dec 2022 #10
They never come back, from my experience dealing with family that is that way. Jamastiene Dec 2022 #11
Should the MAJORITY of the nation's voters for Hillary Clinton in 2016 DemocraticPatriot Dec 2022 #13
They knowingly make bad choices iemanja Dec 2022 #14
I will never trust them I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2022 #15

Beachnutt

(7,356 posts)
6. Yes you really do I suppose no matter what.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:29 PM
Dec 2022

my parents are gone from here and in a since I'm thankful that they missed all this craziness.

Beachnutt

(7,356 posts)
5. I have lost most all my old friends
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:25 PM
Dec 2022

and practically my whole family to this rightwing brainwashing, I have tried to be around them but they make comments that are totally off the wall and I just can't be around them anymore.
I guess you're right that I can still choose new friends.

Nululu

(842 posts)
7. Keep the faith
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:40 PM
Dec 2022

Maybe limit contact but leave the door open. It is sad how many families torn apart by evil oligarchs spewing hate.

Also sad to see the massive influx of Russian sock puppets and bots on Twitter now

doc03

(35,434 posts)
8. I still speak but do not engage in any conversation with them. I find with the MAGAts
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:40 PM
Dec 2022

you can't talk to them for two minutes without them bringing up politics. The MAGAts always try and
steer the conversation to politics like they are fishing for someone that will agree with them. If you don't
agree they think you are anti-Merican. The born-again Christians that used to get religion in every conversation
have evolved into MAGAts. I saw a guy at Mcdonalds that I went to high school with a few days ago. Him and his
wife made a big production when they got their food, praying while waving their hands in the air with their eyes shut. Yep
he is a MAGAt, that is one I quit speaking to years ago.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
11. They never come back, from my experience dealing with family that is that way.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:00 PM
Dec 2022

They might go from side to side and sort of teeter on the edge of waking up from the brainwashing, but usually that doesn't last long and they become entrenched in it for life.

On thing to remember, also, is that if they fell for this, they will fall for other obvious cult leaders/conspiracies/brainwashing too. That are susceptible to it and already lean that way. They are more than happy when something new and crazier than the last thing comes along.

I live in the Bible Belt in a small town that is like another world. These people are not even considered normal by nearby medium and larger towns in the same state. They are like a strange cult but swear up and down that if you don't agree with them, YOU are the one that is crazy or whatever. It's weird. The things I have seen and heard? I wish I could find a way to use an eraser to forget. Or find some kind of thing that would erase it all.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,500 posts)
13. Should the MAJORITY of the nation's voters for Hillary Clinton in 2016
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 02:32 AM
Dec 2022

have invaded Washington DC attempting to prevent the certification of an electoral vote majority for Donald Trump ??


Subsequent behavior of TFG supporters, and the big fat orange blob himself suggest, YES!!!!!



iemanja

(53,115 posts)
14. They knowingly make bad choices
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 02:37 AM
Dec 2022

They are not by virtue of their political views mentally ill.

I'm sorry about your family members. My heart goes out to you.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,496 posts)
15. I will never trust them
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 02:54 AM
Dec 2022

To be honest,be fair,not be a ken/ karen in public. I will not believe anything they say and I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. I admit,yes I am bigoted against narcissists,abusive people and seditionist right wing violent, christian nazi tactical cosplayer gun nut, pieces of shit that think my identity/gender isnt valid and believe I don't deserve equal rights like they take for granted.

I will reject them forever because they have shown me who they are and I want none of it!

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