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littlemissmartypants

(22,853 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 12:36 AM Dec 2022

Judge Luttig: Independent State Legislature Theory is Nonsense

SOURCE: The Atlantic

10/3/2022

tags: Supreme Court, election law, Big Lie, J. Michael Luttig, Independent State Legislature, Moore v. Harper

by J. Michael Luttig
J. Michael Luttig is a former federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.

The Supreme Court will decide before next summer the most important case for American democracy in the almost two and a half centuries since America’s founding.

In Moore v. Harper, the Court will finally resolve whether there is a doctrine of constitutional interpretation known as the “independent state legislature.” If the Court concludes that there is such a doctrine, it would confer on state legislatures plenary, exclusive, and judicially unreviewable power both to redraw congressional districts for federal elections and to appoint state electors who quadrennially cast the votes for president and vice president on behalf of the voters of the states. It would mean that the partisan gerrymandering of congressional districts by state legislatures would not be reviewable by the state courts—including the states’ highest court—under their state constitutions.

Such a doctrine would be antithetical to the Framers’ intent, and to the text, fundamental design, and architecture of the Constitution.

The independent-state-legislature theory gained traction as the centerpiece of President Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. In the Supreme Court, allies of the former president argued that the theory, as applied to the electors clause, enabled the state legislatures to appoint electors who would cast their votes for the former president, even though the lawfully certified electors were bound by state law to cast their votes for Joe Biden because he won the popular vote in those states. The Supreme Court declined to decide the question in December 2020. The former president and his allies continued thereafter to urge the state legislatures, and even self-appointed Trump supporters, to transmit to Congress alternative, uncertified electoral slates to be counted by Congress on January 6.
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Judge Luttig: Independent State Legislature Theory is Nonsense (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Dec 2022 OP
Mahalo, pants.. there are so Cha Dec 2022 #1
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #2
like republianmushroom Dec 2022 #3
Of course it's nonsense gratuitous Dec 2022 #4
Randi Rhodes had an interesting thought on this whole thing yesterday. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #5
They also know that Repubs have benefited from state courts shooting down Dem maps wishstar Dec 2022 #8
Former AG Holder LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #6
More "Sovereign Citizen" adjacent bullshit denying federal jurisdiction over anything...nt Wounded Bear Dec 2022 #7
For this threaf LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #9

Cha

(297,975 posts)
1. Mahalo, pants.. there are so
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 01:37 AM
Dec 2022

many brilliant intelligent judges who should be on the SC but aren't.

We're Stuck with too many narcissistic Fascist, Corrupt assholes for as long as they live.

This is Crazy! There's no way to get rid of them. But how could the Founding Fathers know over 200 years later there would a Foreign ASSet infiltrating Fascism into our Government and spread it acoss our Nation?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Of course it's nonsense
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 02:09 PM
Dec 2022

But we're dealing with a political party that still lusts after power, but is losing the ability to win elections due to its unpopular programs and outdated policies. Republicans are casting about for something to keep them in power, because they can't move forward in an environment where the majority rules. So they've concocted this bullshit argument that the way things have been run in this country for more than 200 years is totally wrong, and the architects of the Constitution really meant for state legislatures to run things.

Anything that takes power away from the people and concentrates it into the hands of a minority that can maintain its power by means fair and foul (mostly foul) is what matters to them.

GoCubsGo

(32,100 posts)
5. Randi Rhodes had an interesting thought on this whole thing yesterday.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 02:29 PM
Dec 2022

She suggested that there's a slight possibility that the Court took on this case in order to squash the "independent legislature theory" BS. It's Trump and his toadies that keep flooding the courts with this garbage. But, as abominable as this current USSC is, they are not known for carrying water for Trump. It's feasible that enough of the right-wingers will join with the 3 sane ones, and say, "No. Like everything else you have been putting in front of us, this is nonsense. Now, go the hell away.."

wishstar

(5,272 posts)
8. They also know that Repubs have benefited from state courts shooting down Dem maps
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 07:07 AM
Dec 2022

such as happened in NY this year to the benefit of more Repubs getting elected to Congress only because Judges decided to not accept Dem drawn districts. Conservative Supes know that it is short sighted to think that giving state legislatures full power would necessarily help Repubs more than Dems.

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