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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(8,142 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:39 AM Dec 2022

did they wait to swap for Griner after GA election? makes sense given GOP habit of making

everything dems do bad.

...update...checked free republic... they are unhappy. reference to her sexual identity and supposed criticism of America making her unworthy

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did they wait to swap for Griner after GA election? makes sense given GOP habit of making (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 OP
Putin is all up in our politics. All the time Walleye Dec 2022 #1
You forgot the sarcasm thingy gab13by13 Dec 2022 #2
Race Johnny2X2X Dec 2022 #3
Welcome home, Britney. No need to trash Whalen. Russia suspects him of espionage... brush Dec 2022 #5
Short answer - yes! n/t lark Dec 2022 #4
Why would a non-announced swap being delayed have any impact on a Georgia Senate race? brooklynite Dec 2022 #6
Watch the news and seeing how it is being (negatively) spun. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #9
Again: would this story affect the Georgia runoff? brooklynite Dec 2022 #10
Uhh, that was the poster's point. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #11
So the Biden Administration would leave Greiner in prison for political goals? brooklynite Dec 2022 #14
That was the question the original poster seemed to be asking, yes. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #15
No the suggestion is that--in order not to give the Democrats a "win"--that Putin Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #16
Its equally obvious that Putin wouldn't hold up a deal for Herschel Walker brooklynite Dec 2022 #17
I don't believe thats true. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #18
I think the US got her out as soon as possible without regard Ilsa Dec 2022 #7
I think the Russians delayed until after the mid-terms were over... Wounded Bear Dec 2022 #12
Coincidence is not necessarily causality. n/t Emrys Dec 2022 #8
Had to wait until AFTER the full moon, because, ya know, werewolves Kennah Dec 2022 #13
Deal was done weeks ago. CBS has been sitting on the story. grantcart Dec 2022 #19

gab13by13

(21,483 posts)
2. You forgot the sarcasm thingy
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:50 AM
Dec 2022

Welcome home Brittany, Dems can shout that to the rooftops. I really don't give a shit how Fox News spins it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,253 posts)
3. Race
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:54 AM
Dec 2022

It's all about race with them. She's a person of color, they wanted the white guy with 4 passports who got kicked out of the military for stealing instead.

brush

(53,971 posts)
5. Welcome home, Britney. No need to trash Whalen. Russia suspects him of espionage...
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 10:36 AM
Dec 2022

but I hope he's next.

brooklynite

(94,929 posts)
10. Again: would this story affect the Georgia runoff?
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:03 PM
Dec 2022

Nobody was aware of the negotiations until after the election was over.

W_HAMILTON

(7,878 posts)
11. Uhh, that was the poster's point.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:10 PM
Dec 2022

They questioned whether or not this prisoner swap could have been delayed to keep from having these (honestly, ridiculous) negative stories from coming out before the runoff election. It's all just conservative-driven hysteria with their usual manufactured narratives, but conservative-driven hysteria with their usual manufactured narratives is pretty much the main factor in Republican GOTV efforts nowadays...

brooklynite

(94,929 posts)
14. So the Biden Administration would leave Greiner in prison for political goals?
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:24 PM
Dec 2022

How embarrassing a thing to suggest.

W_HAMILTON

(7,878 posts)
15. That was the question the original poster seemed to be asking, yes.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:30 PM
Dec 2022

I doubt they would have done that either and probably would have thought that this would have brought favorable coverage -- even though they may be a little naive about that given the state of most of our current news media.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
16. No the suggestion is that--in order not to give the Democrats a "win"--that Putin
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:31 PM
Dec 2022

held up the deal until after the GA Senate race was over. I think that's actually very likely.

Some may also be suggesting that it was Putin and the GQP working together as a conspiracy, and that moves into different territory.

No one is suggesting that Joe Biden was engaged in self-sabotage. Isn't that obvious, Chris?

brooklynite

(94,929 posts)
17. Its equally obvious that Putin wouldn't hold up a deal for Herschel Walker
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:35 PM
Dec 2022

He doesn't care about "a win" for Democrats. He cares about clout and influence. Whether Walker won or not would no appreciable impact on control of the Senate.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
18. I don't believe thats true.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:48 PM
Dec 2022

He may not be proving to be a "strategic genius," but Putin is crafty enough to understand American politics. A 50/50 Senate is better for him than one with a Democratic majority. No doubt about that.

I think your assertion that "whether Walker won or not would no appreciable impact on control of the Senate" is false.

Putin is also in no hurry to get Bout. He's been under arrest or jailed for what? 14 years? A couple days or weeks are not critical.

Wounded Bear

(58,770 posts)
12. I think the Russians delayed until after the mid-terms were over...
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 06:17 PM
Dec 2022

they hate us that much. Well, Putin does anyway.

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