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CBS News"I assume that he would give it a hard look," Shakir said. "I don't want to make the judgment for him. Obviously, it would be his choice to make. But I assume that he would want to reevaluate it."
Shakir added, that Sanders, age 81, is "very aware that he's older now and he'd have to make a real judgment about his own vigor and his stamina and his desire and hunger and passion to do this a third time. But if it were an open field? Yeah, I'm confident he would take another look at it and say, 'Do I want to do this or not?'"
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)Bernie is, and always will be, a spoiler.
moonscape
(4,676 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,791 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)is "Do I want to do this or not?" instead of "Would my running again be the best thing for the country?" ...
DFW
(54,476 posts)I commend him for his honesty, not so much for his ego.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Shakir knows the man well, but Sanders did not say this.
DFW
(54,476 posts)Though it sure sounded like something I could imagine him saying, if he didn't say it, then that should be clarified.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Demsrule86
(68,768 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,791 posts)The new primary line up should also discourage Sanders. Without 90%+ white states, Sanders will not do well
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)If Biden doesn't run we need someone under the age of 70
Why is retiring and spending time with the family so hard.
calguy
(5,345 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,135 posts)Cha
(297,934 posts)here.
DFW
(54,476 posts)Schiff, Klobuchar, Swalwell, even Ossoff, Newsom, probably a few I should know, but can't think of at 2 AM.
If Joe Biden remains compos mentis and physically able, his record up to now practically screams for him to continue until he can't. No one in their slightest dreams could have predicted he would do as well as he has--which is probably why he was able to get away with it. Trump sneered "sleepy Joe," and the Republicans bought it until they realized--way too late--that Trump was no more accurate about Joe Biden than he was about anything else. But the time will come for the next generation to step in, and I think we have an embarrassment of riches there. None of those names are Sanders, and fervently faithful though his supporters may be, the time is going to come, one way or the other, when he is not going to run any more. Hillary Clinton has accepted that her time has passed. Bernie Sanders will, too, and I would hope this will happen while he can still announce it himself, with a clear mind and able body. He owes his supporters that much.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)as much as I do, and given our ideas are very sympathetic; however, *I* would have predicted Joe Biden would do as well as he has. Really.
He is doing just as I expected he would.
I have had 100% faith in Joe Biden's ability to work well with others and in his ability build coalitions that can get things done (not to mention the abilities of Speaker Pelosi and Senate Leader Schumer).
That's what happens when a politican is quick to share in the credit for success.
Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)tritsofme
(17,422 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,344 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 8, 2022, 10:29 PM - Edit history (1)
suffer a health decline first. He's an enormous believer in himself, his class-based economic ideology, and that the nation needs him.
Exertion can be limited to what he chooses. He already has a giant internet database, so "grassroots" funding will again cost very little and once again raise Big Money, far more than his campaign itself needs, to be used, among other things, to fund acolyte runs for candidates who successfully woo his support. Leftover funds will continue to be used years after the primaries to remain a power player among the far left. And of course he can get federal matching primary funds if he chooses.
Of course, most of his former staffers and operatives will be eager for involvement in a presidential campaign and burned their bridges long ago with anyone else. He learned all his material so long ago he doesn't need to think while rolling out such Sanders classics as, "Anyway, the Democrats do it too." And he wouldn't even need to leave home to oblige the MSM with daily rebuttals to the Democratic frontrunners.
Why wouldn't he? Seriously. Power, relevance, national attention, cheers. The alternative would be...?
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Or at least not "even more" pissed off with him.
A chance for at least some degree of healing.
That's sumpin'.
This is positive news, given the alternatives.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)and he's cultivated a coalition by addressing people's concerns.
He has a gift that can not be underestimated.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)interactions and has been demonstrated by a half century of public service. I hadn't always agreed with individual choices, but the whole is an impressive record of a good, honorable, and competent public servant.
I'll be glad to have him to vote for again if he chooses. I don't worry that he won't be able so much as hope that he wants it if he does. Just as he did in 2020, we know he'll step up if he believes he should.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Democratic Party's electoral prospects harm.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)elections for reasons that have nothing to do with winning them. Promoting their personal brands and speaking fees. Selling their latest book. Promoting unrepresented ideologies. Keeping political followings from straying. Attention.
And so on. These days when just posting a tweet stimulates more donations, some could consider it downright wasteful for a politician to skip monetizing a national election.
Obviously on our list of problems to address while still keeping our elections free and open...
betsuni
(25,750 posts)Luciferous
(6,087 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,673 posts)History will treat him kindly as an instrument in bringing people (young especially) into an awareness of how things could or should be, but he couldn't make those changes within the established system he still reveres.
So, just no.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Maybe a Trivial Pursuit or Jeopardy entry. "This independent attempted to run for President in the 2016 Democratic primary." "Who is...Bernie Sanders?" asked hesitantly.
That's where he'll wind up. He's not as big a deal as his fans think he is. Maybe if he'd, you know, had some legislative accomplishments to show for all of his time in DC, yeah, history would remember him kindly.
But he doesn't have that, either.
So no.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Women and minorities don't trust him or like him, which is why he can't win with Democratic primary voters. If you can't win the voters most likely to vote for you, you won't do any better with people not so enthused about you, never mind the ones actively hostile to you--which is NOT a small number.
So he'd be shellacked on the national stage. If the lack of party enthusiasm didn't do him in, and the socialist label didn't crush him, then the r thugs would ride that "Jewish" thing into the ground a few miles deep. Might even give the thugs another trifecta, and take down all our gains in the states these past few years.
And that's without hammering him for his legislative lassitude or some of his more "curious" positions and statements from the past.
Only BS and his fans don't seem to comprehend that the WH will never happen for him.