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nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 08:14 AM Dec 2022

Wanting to clear something up

Yesterday I made a post regarding Brittney Griner in that she used bad judgement in taking hash oil into Russia where it is illegal. All I was trying to say is we are all responsible for our own actions. She was held far longer than she should have I agree and am very pleased she is back home and safe now. A few found my post offensive and that was not my intent.

Please let me share some other opinions I have to give a bit of insight into myself. Most of these are sports related but I hope some can understand what I am trying to convey.

Colin Kaepernick had every right to kneel during the national anthem in protest of racial injustice and not be blackballed by team owners in the NFL for having done it.

Pete Rose on the other hand as Manager of a Professional Baseball team bet on games and should never be admitted to the hall of fame.

Sixty percent of the NFL players are African-American while only nine percent are Head Coaches. That is unacceptable and needs to be
given more than lip service by the league.

Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer and should be in prison serving a life sentence

I could go on but will stop there. Again, I just believe we are all responsible for our own actions no matter who the person may be.

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Wanting to clear something up (Original Post) nightwing1240 Dec 2022 OP
I read you loud and clear, and I agree secondwind Dec 2022 #1
Thank you :) nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #2
When you go to another country you need to abide by their laws. Luciferous Dec 2022 #3
I agree wholeheartedly luv2fly Dec 2022 #4
Thank you nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #5
And ignore the people who want to rip you a new one luv2fly Dec 2022 #10
I hope the risks of going there get through to others Rorey Dec 2022 #8
She admitted it was hers. nt Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #16
Thank you, I had not heard nor read that luv2fly Dec 2022 #19
Couldn't find this earlier. Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #20
Her sentence was much too harsh. It's obvious she was held as a... brush Dec 2022 #6
I'm glad she's safe Rorey Dec 2022 #7
The WNBA players go abroad gab13by13 Dec 2022 #11
I do agree with you Rorey Dec 2022 #14
Aw Jeezuz. Keep digging. Solomon Dec 2022 #9
Not the same thing. The OP said if you break the law (assuming you weren't framed) MLAA Dec 2022 #12
It's not the same situation. gab13by13 Dec 2022 #13
and both of those things should be done by treestar Dec 2022 #18
My OP on the matter yesterday nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #15
Completely agree. I have meds for if/when my back goes out. Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #17
I spent 6wks traveling inside China in 2010. Duppers Dec 2022 #21

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
4. I agree wholeheartedly
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 08:31 AM
Dec 2022

Every point you make, I share your view. I feel no need to apologize nor explain myself. I do hope in the days and weeks that come, we hear directly from BG and whether or not she brought a vape into Russia. If she did, bad move. If it was planted, well that's Russia.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
10. And ignore the people who want to rip you a new one
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 08:57 AM
Dec 2022

Some folks don't like that other countries have laws that we don't agree with.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
19. Thank you, I had not heard nor read that
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 11:48 AM
Dec 2022

The only thing I had heard or read was laypeople saying it was planted, with no evidence one way or the other. I appreciate you clarifying that for me.

Phoenix61

(17,025 posts)
20. Couldn't find this earlier.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 11:50 AM
Dec 2022

Reports claim Griner spoke through an interpreter, explaining that she was packing in haste and didn’t mean to include a cannabis vape pen in her luggage when arriving at a Russian airport in February to play overseas during the offseason, according to the Associated Press.

https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2022/07/07/brittney-griner-pleads-guilty-but-says-cannabis-in-bag-was-accident/

brush

(53,971 posts)
6. Her sentence was much too harsh. It's obvious she was held as a...
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 08:39 AM
Dec 2022

political pawn as Putin/Russians knew they were about to invade Ukraine. If not for that, minor violations like that (vape with cbd oil), are handled by club teams to get their players released.

IMO she was held purposely for future trade bait.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
7. I'm glad she's safe
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 08:42 AM
Dec 2022

But she did use very bad judgement.

I honestly don't know why anyone would want to set foot in Russia. I know she went there to make big $$$. Now she'll be making the rounds giving interviews, and will write a book or two. She's lucky to have made it home to do that.

gab13by13

(21,483 posts)
11. The WNBA players go abroad
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 09:03 AM
Dec 2022

because they are paid more money abroad than they are paid in the US. A heck of a lot of players do this.

I just have one thing to say about Brittney making a bad choice, she did, I agree. Where I worked I wasn't given a choice to go to a dangerous country, I had to go.

My only problem is this; I guarantee that President Biden was working to get both Griner and Whelan released but this is the best and only deal that Putin offered. What would you have done as president? I would have taken the deal.

The problem that upsets me is that the MSM is leading with the right wing narrative that Whelan is still in Russia. Of course his situation needs to be talked about but that doesn't mean that we can't celebrate another President Biden accomplishment.

Welcome home Brittany.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
14. I do agree with you
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 09:50 AM
Dec 2022

She made a choice to go for money, as many do. For me, it wouldn't be worth the risk.

I hope we're able to get Whelan home soon. And alive.

Solomon

(12,321 posts)
9. Aw Jeezuz. Keep digging.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 08:53 AM
Dec 2022

Don't stop. Let me add a couple: "if he had just complied with the officer... all she had to do was obey as ordered..."

Sure.

MLAA

(17,367 posts)
12. Not the same thing. The OP said if you break the law (assuming you weren't framed)
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 09:09 AM
Dec 2022

there are consequences and not surprising one may be arrested. Though being arrested in Russia for the smallest offense in this case is likely politically driven and the punishment did not fit the crime (hard labor) according to American justice. You point to major police misconduct.

gab13by13

(21,483 posts)
13. It's not the same situation.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 09:10 AM
Dec 2022

I am a white dude and my company forced me to go to dangerous countries. They told me before I left that if I broke one of that country's laws I was on my own. Russia didn't single out Brittney because she was black, they singled her out because she was an American.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. and both of those things should be done by
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 11:27 AM
Dec 2022

civilized people. Who doesn't know that Russia has a doubtful human rights record? Who thinks cops are going to go easier on people who won't cooperate?

You refer to these things like it is unreasonable to expect them. Like people should be able to break the law and nobody should do anything about it.

You cooperate with the cop, and argue your case to the court. You don't go into foreign countries and expect the American system. (And we are spoiled if we think the US is the one that is corrupt).

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
15. My OP on the matter yesterday
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:02 AM
Dec 2022

Full disclosure for the record is why.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17446481

No offense was meant to any one in any way.

Thanks to those that offer support, it is greatly appreciated.

Phoenix61

(17,025 posts)
17. Completely agree. I have meds for if/when my back goes out.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 11:17 AM
Dec 2022

I also have plans to travel to Bali. Indonesia has some harsh drug laws so I contacted their embassy. They said if I have a letter from the doctor it shouldn’t be a problem but they couldn’t guarantee that it wouldn’t be a problem. The meds are staying home.

Duppers

(28,132 posts)
21. I spent 6wks traveling inside China in 2010.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 04:17 PM
Dec 2022

I lost count of the number of times my possessions were searched and my body was x-ray'ed. Yep, a LOT of unnecessary x-rays -even within the same airports!! I began to worry about possible damage to my brain.

I never would have presumed I could have gotten away with anything even smelling of any sort of contraband. D.H. and I knew we would have been held and charged.

So, yes, I think Brittany was, at best, being extremely naive.


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