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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAssuming Sinema thought there was going to be a red wave,
did she think she was going to make the switch at a time that the GOP was going to take the Senate?
If so, this move to Independent would have cemented Sinema's power grab had things gone the way most of these midterm elections go. All she really needed was for Warnock to lose in Georgia and she could have stepped over the aisle and handed the Senate to the Republicans, which would have put her in the catbird's seat in 2024, running as a Republican.
Once again, a big thank you to the Georgia voters.
CottonBear
(21,597 posts)to re-elect his brother, Reverend Warnock!
🗳🍑🇺🇸💙
Johnny2X2X
(19,240 posts)Shes still a lot more Dem than GOP. I think its with the 2024 primaries in mind. No more, no less.
Baitball Blogger
(46,775 posts)If she was in danger of losing those committees, I believe she would have made the switch. The Republicans would have probably rewarded her with committee assignments.
And right now the only thing that is keeping her afloat is big money donations from corporations. That isn't a great recipe for success in an election as a Democrat.
Johnny2X2X
(19,240 posts)This was timed to not ruin the Georgia election for Dems. Yeah, I think shes looking out for herself, but I also think Schumer was told before hand and had her wait to announce it.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,129 posts)Her switch has been anticipated quite a bit in local reporting for the past year. The reaction from Democratic leadership has mostly been "enh," so I think they knew it was coming and also knew she wasn't going to switch caucuses.
She did what she had to do to give herself a shot at reelection.
W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)If she had announced she was switching to Independent prior to the Georgia runoff, I assume that most Democrats would have taken that to mean that she could no longer be counted on as a Democrat, which would mean that Senate control was up for grabs once again, which should have made Democrats even more motivated to get out and vote.
How do you figure otherwise?
Johnny2X2X
(19,240 posts)Hurt Republicans. They werent all that excited about Walker, but would have turned up if the Senate had been on the line.
W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)Republicans might have been more inclined to vote, but I'm sure there were also some Democrats that sat out knowing that Senate control was not in play. And we have history to point to at how we fare in that state when Senate control is up for grabs, and it favored Democrats in 2020.
hatrack
(59,596 posts).
GreenWave
(6,790 posts)Miss Bothsiderism was very careful about that.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,129 posts)Gallego has been all sanctimonious about this, but shes at 10% popularity and the base hates her. She was a pariah before leaving the party. Who are all these Arizona Democrats who were wanting her endorsement?
GreenWave
(6,790 posts)But why would that stop her from endorsing anyone?
10% is very low. Is the Plague more popular?
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,129 posts)Are mad she didnt campaign for them. How deeply unserious
Better Days Ahoy
(698 posts)So there's that.
former9thward
(32,114 posts)Please don't cite that internet "poll".
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,129 posts)That she's around 10% with Dems. I don't know what internet "poll" you mean.
Edit: I take that back - I did see some unsourced graphic showing she was unpopular across the board. But I've been seeing the D numbers since pretty much Summer 2021, albeit with higher numbers among Rs and Is.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,050 posts)to the right to win in this state.
She is not popular with anyone - including independents - and the Republicans that applaud her only for her obstruction will loyally vote for whatever idiot gets the GOP nomination.
former9thward
(32,114 posts)He only got 51% of the vote running against a deeply flawed candidate. No one had even ever heard of Masters before the primary.
If you are in AZ you will note Kelly's commercials constantly attacked Biden "when he's wrong and doesn't get it on the boarder"
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,129 posts)And barely beat another flawed candidate. If Republicans run a sane candidate (or at least a not crazy candidate) they win. The idea that Arizona is turning blue is questionable.
I personally don't think Gallego can win statewide, and I find his complaining that Sinema didn't campaign for him to be insincere, especially since I got a fundraising text from him within 15 minutes of Sinema announcing she was leaving the party, asking for money even though he wasn't announcing a run.
not fooled
(5,803 posts)so as to not turn off the many, many low information AZ voters who would not vote for him if they thought he was too "left."
(I know these people; I live among them, for now. Basically clueless and a lot of Fox watchers.)
llashram
(6,265 posts)and as I have watched, extremely compromised by big money donations. She will not change. The big money donates, she owes.
republianmushroom
(13,785 posts)relayerbob
(6,561 posts)She's most likely surrendered any future political office with this move.
Wibly
(613 posts)For example, what makes you think her constituents would re-elect her if she jointed the GOP?
Also, if she was going to do that, why wouldn't she just go GOP anyway? It would at least give her resources and support.
I'll tell you why, because she knows she would not be elected as a GOPer!
Time to stop trying to smear and demonize Sinema, and start working to find a suitable and widely respected DEM to run against her in her home seat.
This post real is a baitball, but the ball is soft on logic.
Onama Biden Man
(26 posts)Had she not behaved like a blatantly corrupt chaotic narcissist, and had she not worked to obstruct major legislation that President Biden tried to pass, her reelection would have been all but guaranteed. She did this to herself. After 2024 her political career will pass into oblivion (though she will likely be a lobbyist and Fox News contributor. Its what grifters like Sinema and Tulsi Gabbard would do).