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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Republican controlled House will definetly impeach Joe Biden
Why? Well, any insane reason will do. Because he traded a major criminal to Russia for some girl basketball player. Because he's left our southern border "wide open" to all of those brown people. Because Biden "stole the 2020 election" from "Dear Leader." Or just because they can. Of course, they know their impeachment will go nowhere in the Senate. They'll probably spend the next two years impeaching him over and over again, just because they can. It will be Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi redux. (And Gym Jordan and Marjorie Taylor Greene will probably be leading the investigations.)
And, of course, they'll try to make Hunter Biden's laptop the equivalent of the stolen secret and top secret documents found at Mar-a-lago. Hunter Biden's laptop will be one of the lead stories on Fox "news" almost every night for the next two years.
And let's not forget unfinished business like putting Hillary in jail. This will be among their top priorities. Plus, they'd like to see Dr. Fauci in the cell next to hers.
Never mind the out-of-reach prices at the supermarket or used car dealer. Never mind investing in education, health care, or the general well being of the American people. None of that matters matters to them. They're out for revenge. They're out for blood.
The elected Republican Party, and those bug-shit insane enough to vote for them, are mentally fucked up beyond repair. And they're doing their best to make America fucked up beyond repair. What do you suppose our country will look like two years from now?
Elessar Zappa
(14,118 posts)Itll just turn people against them. People are going to be so sick of fake investigations that the Democrats are almost a sure thing to win back the House in 24.
Ray Bruns
(4,123 posts)Mad_Machine76
(24,450 posts)in order to ensure that Trump is no longer the most impeached President in the history of the country.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)lame54
(35,341 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,661 posts)Once we wrap our heads around that fact, we can act accordingly.
Pathwalker
(6,600 posts)and now they don't know where to find them.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Pathwalker
(6,600 posts)They have gone scorched earth ever since.
moose65
(3,169 posts)He saw the writing on the wall and resigned.
ananda
(28,891 posts)Right now, Reeps are their own worst nightmare.
Cyrano
(15,075 posts)They thought he would rid them of the communists, the unionists, the undesirables, and they could go on conducting business as usual. Somehow, it didn't quite work out that way.
Kaleva
(36,375 posts)I just don't see Trump authorizing the murder of MTG, Bannon, Flynn and many others.
Cyrano
(15,075 posts)ananda
(28,891 posts)...
tavernier
(12,410 posts)What is it about Republicans that they dont know how to be embarrassed? Any other person walking around with a big L on their forehead just knows to quit
Emile
(23,090 posts)tritsofme
(17,422 posts)Their majority hinges on members who won Biden districts, they might not be willing to sign up for this sort of kamikaze mission.
If they had a larger majority, I have no doubt Biden would be impeached at least three times.
Cosmocat
(14,581 posts)They have to impeach him cause they told the base they would do it, and the base will demand it.
They could give a shit less about anyone is a close district - and if the break ranks they will be run out like those who voted for 45s impeachment were, cause even if they voted 99.9% of the with their craziness, it would make them RINOs.
tritsofme
(17,422 posts)of recent GOP House majorities, and theyve never dealt with one this narrow.
Cosmocat
(14,581 posts)But this isn't normal times and this isn't a rationale party.
They made those who voted to impeach 45s lives hell, and they all fear for their lives.
They will make them make the choice.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Here in California we have a number of Republican House members who know their odds of being reelected would be shredded if they supported impeachments. Same in NY and other places.
With a larger majority, perhaps. But it would be asking Reps in swing districts to commit political suicide to flatter the ego of Donald J Trump--someone for whom they have no fealty.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)So hopefully every one of them that aided and abetted the REAL attempt to STEAL 2020 will lose their place and we can get someone instead who will actually DO the work people elect them to do.
Chainfire
(17,708 posts)The historical record will have a lot to say about it.
liberal N proud
(60,349 posts)Thats the only treason they need
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Cyrano
(15,075 posts)Yeah, even here on DU, there are many who will laugh at a post, or belittle the concepts of an original poster. There are probably about a quarter of a million people on DU. Unfortunately, some enjoy ridiculing or scoffing at posts with which they don't agree. I've had it happen to me when I put up a post that's "out of the mainstream."
Put your ideas out there. Ignore those who would spit on your beliefs/ideas. Respond to and encourage those whose replies are thoughtful.
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Cosmocat
(14,581 posts)for sure ...
Not much changed in the overall dynamics a month ago - it has not been a full on drop off the cliff into totarianism over the last four centuries. This was just them falling a little short of the mark this time. The country overall still continues to relentless indulge them, and to allow them to continue to destroy our norms and standards.
markodochartaigh
(1,164 posts)I started on DU almost a decade ago, posted twice, and received very rude responses by people who had been on the site a long time. I left then, finally coming back a few months ago with a different username because I can't remember my old details. I will give you one of my futuristic takes: Most of the energy released from the burning of fossil fuels goes into heating the atmosphere, ocean, and land. Only about five percent goes into melting ice. Due to the latent heat of fusion of water it takes a large amount of energy to actually melt the ice. Some areas, New Orleans, Miami, Kolkata, Mumbai, Shanghai, the North China Plain, etc. are absolutely in danger due to sea level rise. But the people in any area more than a few of meters in elevation are not in danger due to sea level rise. By the time that sea level has risen a few meters enough energy will have been emitted to warm the atmosphere enough to have caused serial cereal harvest failures. Far more people will die from starvation and its sequalae than will die from sea level rise. Scientists are making progress toward heat resistant RuBisCo and RuBisCo activase, but I don't think that progress will come quickly enough.
Lunabell
(6,133 posts)Impeach!! Impeach!!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Maybe keep count of how many wins they get in court this time? In over 25 years of "investigations" of Hillary and Bill, not one crime that could and should be prosecuted was found and pursued. Zero. (The GOP's Lewinsky perjury trap was a special case created by the GOP.)
During the 2016 Democratic primaries, the LW populist campaign filed a whole bunch of lawsuits alleging state Democratic parties were stealing the primary elections, and they loudly claimed it happened in many others but didn't follow through on their threats to take them to court. I didn't think to keep count until it was too late, either the lawsuits actually filed in court or the ones they were "considering," but together almost every state whose voters chose the other candidate. Although none of these allegations were ever dropped ("zero" ), we all know how many of the suits filed were also not dropped after the press moved on and before actual, you know, evidence had to be produced: Zero.
So, since that's the game, and since the MSM don't keep count of all the phony investigations, allegations and lawsuits against Democrats/Democratic Party that fail to be valid, it might be worth doing for ourselves this time. Even fun. It'll be zero for them, but out of how many?
Cyrano
(15,075 posts)Far too many people buy the snake oil they're selling and vote accordingly.
One extreme example is the Repulican/QAnon lie that Hillary was running a child sex-abuse ring in the basement of a pizzeria in Washington DC. One nut who believed it went into the pizza parlor (that didn't have a basement) with an AR 15. Fortunately, no one was killed. But the never-ending propaganda and outright lies of the Republican Party are a clear and present danger. And it also influences how some people vote.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And with social media weaponized to produce donations EVERY time someone from the right or illiberal left phony-charges or even calls for investigations of Democrats to believers trained to regard opposition as wisdom,, donations get a bump. The noisier, and more outrageous, the allegations, the Bigger the Money.
The wildly successful "rigged elections" deceit narratives have become huge cash cows that will produce for all anti-Democratic factions with just occasional repriming for years, decades even.
But constant poisonous propaganda dribbles, top of the pack constantly sneaking in allegations against Democrats by calling us "congress" and false-identifying us with Republicans, also work appallingly well.
That's the game. People's heads are the ball to be kicked through the goal posts.
betsuni
(25,745 posts)with Republicans ... ."
Just saw one: "The billionaire class? Doing phenomenally well. Huge corporations? Enjoying record profits. The working class? Falling further and further behind. Yes, it's time Congress prioritized the needs of the people."
Both sides. Same old Democrats-are-ignoring-the-working-class-beholden-blah-blah-blah. Not helpful.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The dribblers would never admit that what they crave is the identity and power of Democratic Party progressives. Democrats are the ONLY ones who've ever been ABLE to prioritize the people against the enormous opposition of the billionaires and the GOP that serves them.
And of little factions whose primary political reason for existence is opposition itself.
world wide wally
(21,758 posts)impeach and investigate?
I haven't.
It's all about the revenge. ALL about that.
Kaleva
(36,375 posts)Cyrano
(15,075 posts)Hershel Walker lost, but it was far too close. The only lesson the Republicans took away is that they had to find a way to suppress more (black) voters.
RobinA
(9,903 posts)every President from here on out will be impeached if there is a House of the opposite party. The door was opened with Clinton, then the retaliation with Trump. Now it'll just be constant.
Elessar Zappa
(14,118 posts)in retaliation for Clinton. He was impeached because hes a criminal. And Dems wont impeach unless theres a valid reason.
OMGWTF
(3,984 posts)HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Clinton's impeachment was the revenge investigations finally finding something th hang it on.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Dump is a career criminal who committed numerous crimes while in office. Including malfeasance during the pandemic which murdered millions of people, inciting an insurrection and attempted coup, and the theft and possible sale of classified documents.
Bettie
(16,139 posts)monthly, because they want to do anything but their actual jobs.
They just want to fling poo.
Cyrano
(15,075 posts)Walleye
(31,118 posts)Fortunately theyre so fucking incompetent they will probably just step on their own dicks
Tribetime
(4,715 posts)Bev54
(10,087 posts)in the senate to convict. There are some repubs in close districts that may well not want to put their next election at risk for a completely bogus political stunt.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)tritsofme
(17,422 posts)tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Hopefully some sane republicans will recognize the idiocy of this action.
niyad
(113,731 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)One of their member openly fantasized about assaulting the capitol and how well she would have done it and... been armed...
So How DO YOU think the next 2 yrs are going to be?
How the Dems lost the house i will never understand. I don't think the GOP could have picked a worst roster if it wanted. Between Boebert, Greene, Gosar, Geatz, Jordan there is so much material there any campaign manager worth their salt could have run just devastating campaigns against these people and pretty much the rest of the GOP house.
I remember when Gary Hart simply had a woman who was not his wife sit on his lap and Republicans were able to use that so effectively he had to drop out of the race president (it didn't help that he dared the media to find something,... they did) and that was when there was only 3 news shows on TV, not the endless methods that exist now to get a perception to stick.
These 5 above lied about a virus that has killed over 1 million Americans. Agreed with the events of Jan 6th and so much more.
panader0
(25,816 posts)There was some 'Monkey Business' going on. (the name of the yacht they were on).
Orrex
(63,259 posts)I was thankfully (it seems) wrong about their pick as House Speaker, but I also predicted that they'd go for three impeachments to "prove" that Biden is worse than Trump.
Hats off to gab13by13 for calling the Senate correctly though, when the media in general (including NPR) were declaring both the House and Senate in favor of Republicans starting on the afternoon of Biden's inauguration.
ancianita
(36,200 posts)This is their own abuse of power for no other purpose than to stir up political culture war battles.
ShazzieB
(16,594 posts)If thats what the Repugs want to waste their time on, well...
hadEnuf
(2,222 posts)They are nothing more than a hate-filled, vengeful mob of fascists, neo-Nazis, violent insurrectionists, Confederates, militias bent on wreaking havoc & violence, propagandists, outright criminals and individuals who want to literally destroy the democratic process as it now stands.
I would like to hear at least one redeeming quality that is left within the Republican party. ONE. I honestly cannot think of one because there are little redeeming qualities left, if any.
The "old" Republican party is gone. Many do not yet realize it yet, but it has been consumed by the monster of its own creation. The moderates or liberals within the former party are not going to come to rescue it. They will either go along or be run out.
The monster has now become too powerful.
Trying to negotiate or be bipartisan with this monster-party is a fool's game. They have absolutely no intention of doing anything of the sort. There may be a few who will vote sanely now and again, but it only seems to happen when they have a partisan interest in the legislation. Otherwise, if they actually do stand-up or vote for what is right, they are eviscerated and practically drummed out of the party.
What is the point of treating these people like they are members of a party that no longer exists? They have now turned into a monstrosity that just bears the Republican name. We need to start dealing with them as they really are, not how they were.
mcar
(42,426 posts)4 Rs vote no and they fail.