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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWalmart rolled out self-checkout to streamline operations and reduce labor - but employees and
customers say it's causing a surge in theftsWalmart's CEO has warned that the retailer may need to close down stores due to theft but many of the company's customers and employees blame one growing feature of the store for enabling shoplifting: self-checkout.
Walmart CEO and President Doug McMillon told CNBC earlier this month that theft "is higher than what it has historically been" and there will be consequences "if that is not corrected over time." Since McMillon made those comments, more than 100 Walmart customers and former and current employees reached out to an Insider reporter imploring the retailer to rely less on self-checkout.
"They need to hire cashiers again and do away with so many self-checkout," said Mindy Stanley, a Walmart customer from Ashland, Kentucky. "I'd say they are losing so much due to that."
To be sure, Walmart still utilizes cashiers at stores across the nation. But the Bentonville, Arkansas-based retail giant, like so many other retailers, has increasingly relied on automation as a means of improving customer experience and reducing labor cost.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/walmart-rolled-out-self-checkout-to-streamline-operations-and-reduce-labor-but-employees-and-customers-say-it-s-causing-a-surge-in-thefts/ar-AA15dnDN
Brilliant!!!
Atticus
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ProfessorGAC
(65,319 posts)...their pricing model included shrink that was less than they're experiencing.
They knew full well that dominating with self check stations would increase theft. They just raised prices to accommodate.
But, they underestimated.
Which also means somebody got a big bonus for this cost saving move, but they won't be giving it back after this.
central scrutinizer
(11,665 posts)Its the exact opposite for me. I hate them.
babylonsister
(171,104 posts)checking yourself out improves anyone's experience?
TheBlackAdder
(28,237 posts).
Their AI cameras catch this and the person checking receipts is alerted to check it for accuracy.
Then they shake down the person, sort of like the way Cumberland Farms used to do it in the past.
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ZonkerHarris
(24,279 posts)burning cigarette when it happened.
They sold a lot of tobacco
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)or have the police called?
I don't understand how this carefully designed racket would exist alongside the problem of theft so serious they're considering shutting some stores down. Wouldn't those be especially profitable "shake-down" centers?
TheBlackAdder
(28,237 posts).
This put the onus of checking and selecting the right product onto the customer.
If you pick the wrong fruit or vegetable, improperly weigh or scan, it's your ass.
Wal*Mart purposely short-staffs the registers to force people to use self-serve checkouts.
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)very illegal, to say the least, and it'd be easy for federal prosecutors to establish a pattern in a chain as huge as Walmart, perhaps qualifying for racketeering charges.
Loss prevention/mitigation is a huge expense for stores, but they're forced to pursue it.
Walmart does report clear shoplifting to the police (but evidently this needs to be done more). But what happens then is up to local law enforcement, not Walmart.
As for the wrongful reporting, that mistake by retail staff can cause big problems, serious costs, and always LOSSES of profit. No gain, no possible win. It's certainly NOT a carefully designed racket to prey on self-checkers and extort payment for not reporting to the police. No idea just how many serious laws a criminal conspiracy like that would break, but a lot!
But MORE, it's just a huge mistake to imagine there even could be profit in preying on customers and losing their business permanently. How about the blow-back from both consumer comunities at large on learning a store was a hostile agent extorting its customers AND from state and federal agencies? And, of course, there'd be not just the large, routine costs of carrying out this racket but also legal costs from those customers who do a lot more than just walk away. Watchdog and civil rights organizations, Adder?
As for "fines," you're referring to civil demand letters for restitution of damanges, which may include some reimbursement of administrative costs. Apparently there's usually little or no effort to collect on them. But in any case, this is not a shake-down to avoid a crirminal record. At this point it's already reported to the police.
TheBlackAdder
(28,237 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)rightly saying it rose to extortion.
Of course, let's not forget the thieves and their thefts. No thieving, no attempts by the owner of the stolen items to discourage further thefts.
Speaking of, it's Christmas-theft-from-us time. Since a box containing presents for us, including a pair of antique bookends that had said "Mom!" to our daughter, was stolen from our porch a couple Decembers ago, our family always notifies each other to watch for, and ideally be present for, presents on their way.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,050 posts)I've seen long lines at self-checkout while half the self-check lanes are "closed".
Okay I understand some downtime for maintenance, but this happens all the time.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And banning thieves from stores.
The trick is how to do it while maintaining the level of courtesy and respect honest customers expect.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)that is someones job ... Sam's club is the same way ...
I stand in line ... don't know if Cosco is like that or not ...
Kaleva
(36,372 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)but yes I fill my own car .. guilty
Kaleva
(36,372 posts)Like self service at gas stations couldn't be stopped.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)Kaleva
(36,372 posts)Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Or it did the last time I went, before the pandemic.
Kaleva
(36,372 posts)Target and Meijer's have self checkout.
wishstar
(5,272 posts)In my area, Target and Aldi only changed to self-check earlier this year.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)The way I saw Wal-Mart doing it was ripe for ripoff. It was all set up just like their normal checkout, just without cashiers. That's begging to be robbed.
Last time I went to an H-E-B market in Texas, they had the right idea: They herded people into a roped off area for the self-checkout registers, and they had at least one employee there to "assist" shoppers. In reality, most of the "assistant's" job entails watching for fake scans, people pocketing/hiding product, and all the rest. They also check the purchases in the bags against the receipts. You don't leave the roped-off area without that person letting you pass.
Don't know if H-E-B still does it, or if it was a pilot program type of thing, but an employee there told my husband the new setup reduced the store's losses by a significant percentage.
Kaleva
(36,372 posts)Walmart needs to have people checking the receipts against what's in the bags.
LeftInTX
(25,679 posts)I think this is mostly true with most HEBs.
I also don't think the self-check has scales. (I've only used it once)
Also, HEB has totally different merch than WalMart. Their most commonly lifted item is cosmetics.
Xolodno
(6,408 posts)...I often put the eggs in the "child seat". Every so often, I forget to put it on the belt, but the cashier catches it and mentions it. "I'll say sorry, I missed that" and he or she will respond "no worries, happens a lot".
The Target nearby has self checkout and I use it sometimes, but when I just have a couple of items and the number of machines are limited, I don't think I've ever seen anyone in that area with more than a dozen items. The Wal-Mart on the other hand has a two huge sections of the self checkout machines and one person trying to police it all and people with large carts because they only have a couple manned registers opened with huge lines. Thus I seldom go there. I actually use their pick-up service when I have a lot to get and have little time, otherwise, I just go to the grocery store since they often have better quality.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,478 posts)I never wanted to work there anyway
ripcord
(5,553 posts)What I don't understand is why they just don't shop someplace else that has cashiers, Walmart is not a right.
Torchlight
(3,388 posts)than I had thought it would.
15 years ago, I'd guessed it would be The Next Big Thing, but throughout the industry, its impact has remained in the corner, and it may be that given human nature, it's simply not the cost-benefit breakthrough once hoped for and will be relegated to just another small tool in the corner at their disposal.
BannonsLiver
(16,539 posts)For me though its an easy call. Do I want to stand behind three people with overflowing, buckling carts full of crap while they break out the coupons and dispute prices on several items causing delays, or do I want to quickly scan my 15 or 20 items and GTFO of the store? I guess some folks just like standing there from reading the thread. Better you than me!
JCMach1
(27,582 posts)Fail...
Hell, no... I refuse to use self checkout and avoid stores that rely on it too much.
iemanja
(53,093 posts)They deserve financial losses.
LeftInTX
(25,679 posts)They got rid of the greeter for about 15 years or so, but now it seems the greeter is back.
I think shoplifting at WalMart has numerous causes. 24 hour stores were a factor. (Unfortunately, they got rid of those)
They just seem to have poor security overall and also poorer than average investment.
Let's face it: What can you say about a place that doesn't maintain their shopping carts???
WalMart has never had carry out and that's another factor too.
Mosby
(16,394 posts)Can't stop shoplifters. Shoplifters know this, so they just walk out with merchandise sometimes.
LeftInTX
(25,679 posts)Way back in the 80s my MIL was working at a store and just let a shoplifter "go" because she didn't want to "get involved".
Mosby
(16,394 posts)It's not about wanting to get involved, you will be fired if you try to stop a shoplifter, its strictly a AP and management function now.
LeftInTX
(25,679 posts)They have a self-checkout area. They had a "bagger" or "cashier" (young person) and a security guard (older guy) working in the self checkout area tonight. The guard was closely watching every shopper and every item. (Yet was able to stand a distance) Since HEB is a grocery store, they don't carry the same type of items as WalMart. (Cosmetics are the number one thing stolen). I feel they are being proactive.
Self checkout is limited to 10 items.