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Ukrainian authorities say the Russian military is carefully concealing its losses in a HIMARS strike that hit the groups headquarters.The Russian mercenaries hailed by their leader as the most skilled and experienced soldiers in the war against Ukraine have gotten themselves blown up over the weekend.
Pro-Kremlin Russian media channels were the first to reveal the strike Sunday on a hotel in the occupied Luhansk region, furiously noting that the enemy used HIMARS to hit the hotel in Kadiivka where Wagner fighters were located.
Photos showed the building, a hotel called Zhdanovs Guest House, blown to smithereens, though no details were immediately given on how many Wagner fighters were killed. Russian state-run media was largely mum on the whole affair (with the exception of a Kremlin-friendly tabloid saying the site had been targeted because the U.S. knew Wagner founder Yevgeny Prigozhin frequented the private armys headquarters there.)
Ukrainian authorities say the Russian military is carefully concealing its losses in the strike. Serhiy Haidai, the Ukrainian governor of Luhansk, confirmed the strike and quipped on Telegram that many Wagner mercenaries would undoubtedly be absent for their next roll call.
On Tuesday, Haidai issued a statement saying hundreds of Wagnerites have been killed before reaching the frontline in the last week and a half, either by explosions caused by smoking in their headquarters or their barracks.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bombing-of-vladimir-putins-elite-wagner-group-fighters-in-ukraine-infuriates-russia
Tsk tsk tsk...ain't that a shame...
Walleye
(31,117 posts)Bev54
(10,087 posts)mitch96
(13,936 posts)Walleye
(31,117 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,537 posts)grumpyduck
(6,277 posts)it's okay to hit civilian apartments and other non-targets.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)To soothe their poor fragile egos.
Journeyman
(15,042 posts)What was it Patton said? Wars are won by making some other dumb bastard die for his country. This group of Wagners has finally arrived at its Götterdämmerung. Only this time, it was a Ukrainian composer who piped them off history's pages.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)wnylib
(21,727 posts)I find myself feeling happy for the Ukrainians, but also thinking how strange and awful it is to be happy about the deaths of human beings.
Yes, those killed soldiers would have killed Ukrainians, civilians as well as military, so it is good that Ukrainians are successfully defending themselves. But that's what war does to people - makes them happy over the deaths of others, so that they can't hurt you and yours.
Lonestarblue
(10,132 posts)sorry for them. My wish is that their evil leader was blown up with them.
wnylib
(21,727 posts)I feel sad in general that war means death, of necessity, for self protection. It's what war does to people that is sad. I am happy for the Ukrainians that they have wiped out this group. I am just feeling the sadness of how awful and unnecessary war is. Putin had no business, no justification whatever in starting the killing process.
Lonestarblue
(10,132 posts)war is just a side show. Putin in one of those. Trump was a wannabe, but perhaps he has been neutered. We can all hope.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)I would call myself a pacifist for the most part.
But everytime I hear about a story like this, even knowing hundreds of Russian conscripts were blown to bits, or forever maimed, I can't help but cheer inside.
I even like watching footage of tanks etc. being bombed into firey explosions. Knowing some poor Russian schlub is inside.
Like you, I write that off as being thankful that those dead soldiers now cannot kill Ukrainians.
But what bothers me is that there must be hundreds, thousands probably, of unwilling conscripts there. Some university students, some dragged from protests against the war even. Many from poorer small villages and of minority ethnicities. Draining whole villages of their younger men. And then those are the ones sent up front to be shot first. And shot if they try and run back. Horrible.
There must be approaching 100,000 mothers now who have lost a son in this special military operation. I keep waiting for some kind of mother uprising in Russia. That dam has to break one of these days
Takket
(21,662 posts)AverageOldGuy
(1,564 posts). . . I'm just heartbroken.
Evolve Dammit
(16,793 posts)Botany
(70,632 posts)Ukrainian HIMARS Destroy Barracks in Russian-Occupied MelitopolReports
https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-himars-destroy-barracks-russian-occupied-melitopol-reports-1766193
Way to go Vlad bring in your Wagner Troops (prisoners released to fight in Ukraine) and put them all into
a hotel and a gym right next door, let them get some food and booze into them, and then go to bed.
Cha
(297,911 posts)What the Wagner troops are.
TomSlick
(11,120 posts)Send them to hell.
Mysterian
(4,597 posts)All nice and close together for a missile strike.
Good soldiers live in the terrain and stay dispersed.
Wicked Blue
(5,863 posts)and slaughter and torture civilians, but those things are okay to them.
But if Ukraine fights back against monstrous mercenaries? Nooo.
F**king savages.
ancianita
(36,197 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,760 posts)and your soldiers hearts are not in the fight.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,776 posts)James48
(4,444 posts)They should at least go open the windows.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)...especially given the many connections between Putin, his version of an ideal Russia and our own white supremacist Nazi Republicans.
(and yes, I already know RW died decades before Hitler rose to power)
Igel
(35,383 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)As was the Fabian-socialist playwright George Bernard Shaw, and the anti-Nazi German-exile author Thomas Mann.
Why?
Because Richard Wagner wrote arguably the most sublime music in human creation. An absolute genius.
EndlessWire
(6,573 posts)is how surprised and amazed Russia is that their enemy fights back. They're outraged? What did they think, that they could shoot and kill civilians, babies, and destroy all the infrastructure, and no Ukrainian would actually shoot back? This is fascinating psychology. They are furious that enemy soldiers inside the borders of Ukraine are targeted?
Tell that to the raped toddler, or to the mother of the dead two day old baby...or to the families of all those dead civilians...or the Ukrainian soldiers, who wouldn't be dying themselves if it weren't for Putin.
But, don't be surprised. Gonna happen again.