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ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:14 PM Dec 2022

My Wife's Friend of 55+ Years...

...& her college roommate came home from The Keys to go into the hospice her sister founded about 40 years ago.
She basically has cancer of everything now, but started as lung cancer.
Went through chemo & radiation 3 times, but it just kept coming back.
She's lived in Florida ever since she returned from the Peace Corps is 1980. She was a social worker for the state. Retired 2 years ago. Been a crummy retirement.
Been taking my wife to see her every other day since the 7th spending a couple hours to spell the family.
Today seemed like the end is near. She was talking about seeing people earlier today that have been dead 10 to 20 years. She forgot my name and we met in 1981, and saw each other about every 3 years since.
She couldn't keep her eyes open. She asked my wife "What time am I dying today?" My wife told her she couldn't know the answer, but she also knew not to say "You won't die."
I sense acceptance in the little she said today. Like she's ready for this to be over.
Obviously, my wife is pretty bummed out. We'll go again tomorrow, but now it's more for my wife than for her friend.
I'm going at around 1am to spell her nephew, and come home around 4. I don't want my wife to go. She's having enough sleep issues and that's not good given the meds she's on.
Hoping you'll send some good vibes for her friends & family. Alas, they'll do no good for our friend. But, the rest can use some solace.

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My Wife's Friend of 55+ Years... (Original Post) ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 OP
... Drum Dec 2022 #1
Sending blessings of peace to all of you Wicked Blue Dec 2022 #2
🙏🏻 ♥️ 🥰 a kennedy Dec 2022 #3
Thanks ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #6
Such a horrible thing to go through, it's a shame she couldn't enjoy retirement Walleye Dec 2022 #4
One Of My Motivations To Retire... ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #8
It's good you thought about it and planned ahead. Most of us don't Walleye Dec 2022 #9
The main reason I didn't fight my forced retirement in April. Ms. Toad Dec 2022 #43
My Retirement Is Wonderful ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #55
Great to hear! Ms. Toad Dec 2022 #73
I'm retiring in 3 months Random Boomer Dec 2022 #90
Definitely sending good thoughts your way TheProle Dec 2022 #5
It's hard watching family and friends die malaise Dec 2022 #7
my mom is in hospice at home. it's terrible watching the deterioration day by day. Solomon Dec 2022 #35
Sadly it's either we die early malaise Dec 2022 #37
Sending you hugs. MLAA Dec 2022 #47
Thank you Solomon Dec 2022 #86
Been through Rebl2 Dec 2022 #53
Comforting vibes on the way to all. SheltieLover Dec 2022 #10
She's just going back to the place where babies come from Zorro Dec 2022 #11
Losing a long time friend at this time of the year will be especially painful. lpbk2713 Dec 2022 #12
Your steadfast support of your wife and her dying friend confirm my online impression Atticus Dec 2022 #13
Thanks Atticus ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #16
Same here. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2022 #68
Prof is a wonderful human being malaise Dec 2022 #81
Sending hugs and love gademocrat7 Dec 2022 #14
You're a good man Prof. panader0 Dec 2022 #15
Very sorry to hear and especially for your wife and of course her dear friend. You are there and Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #17
And we are honored to be present and supportive at a time like this. calimary Dec 2022 #91
it's the best we can all offer. Thanks Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #97
Kudos to you and your wife and wishing peace to you all... Rhiannon12866 Dec 2022 #18
You and Hospice are clearly what she needs. TNNurse Dec 2022 #19
They also serve who stand and wait. Blessed is your friend, and you all are part of that blessing. marble falls Dec 2022 #20
Bring a friend if you can. My father once brought me Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #21
I'm so sorry to hear of her painful and difficult end time. erronis Dec 2022 #22
Sent up a prayer for you and yours. iluvtennis Dec 2022 #23
That's rough. I think about these things as I approach the end of my own life. I think... NNadir Dec 2022 #24
I'm so sorry, Professor. This is heartbreaking, for your wife's friend and all highplainsdem Dec 2022 #25
May she have a peaceful journey mcar Dec 2022 #26
I'm in Key West..... madamvlb Dec 2022 #27
Thanks, But... ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #38
Peace, strength and acceptance to your wife and her friend. femmedem Dec 2022 #28
Your desire to protect your wife is understandable, but she must Maru Kitteh Dec 2022 #29
I Get You ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #42
Sounds like she's had some really good friends over the years. GoodRaisin Dec 2022 #30
I'm in Key West..... madamvlb Dec 2022 #31
I prayed for you all. You are wonderful friends... Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #32
Virtual hugs & caring vibes to all during this difficult time. -nt CrispyQ Dec 2022 #33
There are tons of people in hospice who BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #34
Good to know, Bigman, cilla4progress Dec 2022 #41
I know that if my dogs are not BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #46
Do you cilla4progress Dec 2022 #54
Nope. BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #70
Agree with you all the way! cilla4progress Dec 2022 #74
ever see the movie "what dreams may come?" orleans Dec 2022 #76
I'll check that out, thanks! BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #77
I'm so sorry. area51 Dec 2022 #36
How very difficult! cilla4progress Dec 2022 #39
Good vibes sent. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2022 #40
You have them! mgardener Dec 2022 #44
Professor, sending prayers of comfort to those around your wife's friend. May the friend find peace debm55 Dec 2022 #45
Your strength will inspire, stay strong. MiHale Dec 2022 #48
My best to you all during these trying times. NT SWBTATTReg Dec 2022 #49
Thinking of you all 💕 louslobbs Dec 2022 #50
Sending you and your wife hugs as you work through this challenging time. MLAA Dec 2022 #51
Very sad story. Coincidentally I also returned from the Peace Corps in 1980. honest.abe Dec 2022 #52
Palau! ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #56
I was in the Philippines. honest.abe Dec 2022 #57
Well, More Coincidence In This Conversation ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #59
Yea, I know that area very well. honest.abe Dec 2022 #62
And.... ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #83
Love Chicago.. other than in the winter! honest.abe Dec 2022 #85
Sending good vibes your way. Owl Dec 2022 #58
Our Friend Smoked ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #60
Thank you Professor. Much appreciated. Owl Dec 2022 #65
.. jalan48 Dec 2022 #61
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Dec 2022 #63
Peace and comfort to you and your wife Wild blueberry Dec 2022 #64
It's so hard. Laffy Kat Dec 2022 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Laffy Kat Dec 2022 #66
Thinking of you & your wife Chicagogrl1 Dec 2022 #69
May she cross easy. She sounds well loved out of this life. nolabear Dec 2022 #71
you have profound sympathies - and SO much respect stopdiggin Dec 2022 #72
... Permanut Dec 2022 #75
You and your wife are being true friends to her. Take care of her and take care of yourselves. GoneOffShore Dec 2022 #78
Hugs to all Meowmee Dec 2022 #79
May the good memories come to overwhelm this time. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #80
Sending positive vibes to you and your wife nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #82
I can't add any thoughts onethatcares Dec 2022 #84
Sending good vibes for a gentle passing and consolation to those who love her. n/t TygrBright Dec 2022 #87
Crummy retirement, but good life. And good family and friends. Hortensis Dec 2022 #88
sending my best BlueTexasMan Dec 2022 #89
If you can, try to do something for the hospice nurses Nac Mac Feegle Dec 2022 #92
Good Plan! ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #95
It's always harder on the ones left behind. TigressDem Dec 2022 #93
Good vibes from people around her will do her a great deal of good Warpy Dec 2022 #94
Great Suggestions (nt) ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #96

Wicked Blue

(5,863 posts)
2. Sending blessings of peace to all of you
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:18 PM
Dec 2022

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0

ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
6. Thanks
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:22 PM
Dec 2022

My Wife has well-controlled BPD, but these sort of situations are not good for her.
I'll find some way to distract her.
Maybe we'll make Asian shrimp together tomorrow. Or tacos. She might enjoy that.

Walleye

(31,147 posts)
4. Such a horrible thing to go through, it's a shame she couldn't enjoy retirement
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:20 PM
Dec 2022

Seems like once you get past seventy it’s pretty much a crapshoot. I really feel for her. I have one really good friend of about 55 years. I would be devastated if I lost her. Stay strong,

ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
8. One Of My Motivations To Retire...
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:25 PM
Dec 2022

...was my dad going through this.
He worked until he was 67. Had about 10 months of healthy retirement and died at 69 & 2 months. I insisted that wasn't going to be my fate.
Fortunately, my decision was facilitated by savings that meant our income would go up when I quit working. That cinched it.
Our friend had it worse than my dad. She had about 5 weeks of healthy retirement. Rotten

Walleye

(31,147 posts)
9. It's good you thought about it and planned ahead. Most of us don't
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:26 PM
Dec 2022

When you’re healthy you never think that your health is going to deteriorate

Ms. Toad

(34,126 posts)
43. The main reason I didn't fight my forced retirement in April.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:41 PM
Dec 2022

Lots of reasons I could have - the last 3 people on staff with cancer were terminated within a year of diagnosis, staff members (as opposed to faculty with tenure) 55 or older are terminated at a significantly higher rate than younger workers. I fit into both categories.

But my spouse is in her 70s and wants to travel while she is still able to enjoy it. With an aggressive cancer (and a second not so aggressive) - who knows how long I have. Our income isn't going up - but we have enough to live on comfortably. And when I ran the numbers, if I'd worked until I was 72 (as planned) we wouldn't have caught up in draws from retirement until sometime in my 90s. Better to enjoy it now, even if we have somewhat less income coming in.

I nope your retirement improves. Take care of your wife - maybe once the current stress ends the two of you will be better able to enjoy retirement.

ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
55. My Retirement Is Wonderful
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:08 PM
Dec 2022

I was referring to our friend's retirement.
She had about 5 weeks of retirement when she started having the issues that ended up being diagnosed as cancer.
5 weeks of healthy retirement! That's what I meant by crummy retirement.
For my wife & I, retirement is all it's cracked up to be.
We don't, however, have ambitions to travel. I traveled A LOT for my job, so I'm less than enthusiastic.
And my wife's back isn't travel friendly.
That's OK. We like being homebodies.

Ms. Toad

(34,126 posts)
73. Great to hear!
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 01:02 AM
Dec 2022

I thought you were also referring to your wife's retirement (which seemed to have been consumed by helping your friend).

Random Boomer

(4,170 posts)
90. I'm retiring in 3 months
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 01:27 PM
Dec 2022

Fingers crossed that I didn't leave it too late (I'm 68 and not in the best of health). My hope is that I will have at least a few years of just loafing at home, taking care of my pets.

TheProle

(2,210 posts)
5. Definitely sending good thoughts your way
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:20 PM
Dec 2022

For you and your wife to have been such dedicated friends with her for so long speaks to your character, as does this very difficult final chapter.

Wishing you, your wife and her friend peace.

Solomon

(12,321 posts)
35. my mom is in hospice at home. it's terrible watching the deterioration day by day.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:22 PM
Dec 2022

my dad is bedridden as well. things they didn't tell us about as kids growing up. it's hard. really really hard.

wouldn't wish it on anyone but we will all be like that if we live long enough.

malaise

(269,278 posts)
37. Sadly it's either we die early
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:26 PM
Dec 2022

Or slowly fade away.
That said it must be very hard for your parents, you and your family.

MLAA

(17,369 posts)
47. Sending you hugs.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:51 PM
Dec 2022

My dad died a little over a year ago. I learned at the last minute he had liver cancer after he complained of excruciating back pain. I immediately flew across country to be with and get him help. A week in Mayo Clinic in Jax where they got his pain under control and a week or 2 in rehab. When I arrived I found out he had an appointment with an oncologist to discuss treatment options. I went with him after hearing about the option for treatment and all the likely side effects I asked dad what he wanted to do and he told me and the Dr that he had 92 wonderful years and was would opt for quality of life vs quantity. I drove him back to assisted living and we engaged hospice. He didn’t experience any pain for the 5 or so weeks. Then he was taken to hospice for about 2 days and gently passed. It was very hard getting use to the idea of him being gone, but he didn’t suffer.

I can’t imagine having to face both parents nearing the end at the same time. I am sending you energy to give you strength and hugs to give you comfort.

Rebl2

(13,587 posts)
53. Been through
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:00 PM
Dec 2022

this with my in-laws several years ago and my Dad last year. In- laws were in their late 70’s and my Dad was in his 90’s. Dad wasn’t doing well for years before he died. It’s hard to watch them go downhill over several years. My Dad’s brother (couple years older than my Dad) died about four months later.

lpbk2713

(42,773 posts)
12. Losing a long time friend at this time of the year will be especially painful.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:33 PM
Dec 2022


I will keep you all in my thoughts.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
13. Your steadfast support of your wife and her dying friend confirm my online impression
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:33 PM
Dec 2022

of you as a stand-up guy.

Take care of yourself, also, ok?

ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
16. Thanks Atticus
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:47 PM
Dec 2022

I'm fine. I'm a fatalist..
I'm just trying to create a soft landing for the others. Her family is loaded with wonderful gentle people.
Her brother was a pal of mine. He died at 68 too, about 5 years ago. Complications of diabetes. He had a year of good retirement. The one B-i-L is the only one that made it into the 70s. The gene pool is not great.

Evolve Dammit

(16,817 posts)
17. Very sorry to hear and especially for your wife and of course her dear friend. You are there and
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:47 PM
Dec 2022

that is what matters and sometimes all we can really do (being present and supportive).

TNNurse

(6,931 posts)
19. You and Hospice are clearly what she needs.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:49 PM
Dec 2022

You and your wife should know that you did what could be done. You have made it as best as it could be.

erronis

(15,460 posts)
22. I'm so sorry to hear of her painful and difficult end time.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:57 PM
Dec 2022

When can we understand that prolonging life is not necessarily a good thing?

If the person living the life thinks its time then the options should be available.

I really don't want to subtract from your post - just ruminations on my own rapidly approaching mortality.

NNadir

(33,582 posts)
24. That's rough. I think about these things as I approach the end of my own life. I think...
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:05 PM
Dec 2022

...knowing how to die is as important as knowing how to live.

Reading between the lines, I believe your wife's friend may know that.

Condolences.

highplainsdem

(49,119 posts)
25. I'm so sorry, Professor. This is heartbreaking, for your wife's friend and all
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:07 PM
Dec 2022

who care for her.

My mom had been looking forward to a healthy retirement, which had included plans to spend a lot of time visiting relatives in another state. Especially her brother, her favorite sibling. Who died of a sudden heart attack the week she retired. She developed heart problems herself within a few weeks.

She was talking about seeing people earlier today that have been dead 10 to 20 years.


That isn't unusual for the dying. And I believe she is seeing them, that she'll be reunited with loved ones soon. I've read that such deathbed visions are more common in people who aren't heavily medicated than in those who are, but I don't think painkillers can completely block them. You might see her reaching out to people you can't see.

Prayers and good vibes for her, and for your wife, and you, and all her friends and family.

ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
38. Thanks, But...
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:31 PM
Dec 2022

...she came up here near Chicago to die.
We were all from here originally. Several are still within 20 miles or so.
We used to go to KW to visit her. Last time was 2016, I think.
Her sister founded this county's hospice in around 1978. It's much bigger now, but the county is 70% more populated.
The B-i-L we're spelling lives about 2 miles away. Great guy. He is recovering from foot surgery, so we're happy to give him a break.
Thanks for the offer. I wish we were visiting her, so we could have dinner together. Alas,...

femmedem

(8,210 posts)
28. Peace, strength and acceptance to your wife and her friend.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:10 PM
Dec 2022

And to you as you care for them/about them. I'm so sorry your wife's dear friend had so little healthy retirement to enjoy. But it sounds as if you and hospice are doing everything right and she is at peace with what's coming.

The worry about your wife, the loss of her friend, the sadness for good people who work their whole lives and then are struck with illness when they retire. It's a lot to deal with. I'm glad your DU family is here for you.

Like your wife, I struggle with insomnia. I've been listening to a podcast called Sleep With Me that has helped. I support the podcaster on patreon so I don't have to listen to the first annoying ten minutes or so where he talks about sponsors and such, but the podcast is free and it's easy to fast forward past the beginning. I found it took about three episodes before I understood what the podcaster is doing and how to make it work for me. The trick is to not listen too closely; almost like a boring but friendly dinner guest. He tells listeners to think of him as a Borefriend or a neighBore. I hope that if she tries it, it helps.

Maru Kitteh

(28,345 posts)
29. Your desire to protect your wife is understandable, but she must
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:11 PM
Dec 2022

follow her own path here.


You are a good husband. Just do what you can.



ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
42. I Get You
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:33 PM
Dec 2022

But, my wife has BPD. She cannot get too immersed in the misery of others. It's not good for her.
She went through this with her mom, and she expects me to be her referee.
It's not quite as simple as you may think.
I greatly appreciate the sentiment, though.

Joinfortmill

(14,503 posts)
32. I prayed for you all. You are wonderful friends...
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:13 PM
Dec 2022

It seems that your wife's friend is at peace. It offers me encouragement, as I am an old girl, who knows I am in the last inning of the game. God bless.

BigmanPigman

(51,651 posts)
34. There are tons of people in hospice who
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:17 PM
Dec 2022

saw dead friends and family and even their old pets from childhood a day before they died and it made them so happy. They are already crossing into their realm. It is very peaceful and not scary at all. It is welcomed since they know they will be going "home" to be with them very soon. Hospice workers are familiar with these common experiences.

BigmanPigman

(51,651 posts)
46. I know that if my dogs are not
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:51 PM
Dec 2022

there then I don't want to go since it would only be "home" if my puppies are there too. Reading and hearing of these experiences helps me when I am blue and missing them. It gives me something to look forward to actually.

BigmanPigman

(51,651 posts)
70. Nope.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 11:42 PM
Dec 2022

I have very poor health and I know that if I adopted one it would outlive me. My other 2 dogs, especially my last one, were extremely attached to me and I couldn't hurt a dog emotionally. I know it would harm them as much as a child losing a parent. I chose this path for the past 2 1/2 years and have remained certain that this is best. I am leaving 3/4 of my assets and estate (whatever remains if the SCOTUS overturns the ACA...they could still do this) to the Morris Animal Refuge in Phila (the oldest animal refuge in the US and I was a foster parent while in college) and the San Diego Humane Society (who allowed me to adopt my own puppy after volunteering until I had my own place to live). I LOVE dogs!!! Unconditional love is only one of the reasons why I believe they are far better than humans.

orleans

(34,094 posts)
76. ever see the movie "what dreams may come?"
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:47 AM
Dec 2022

there is this wonderful scene when a main character is reunited with his dog

apparently the story was drawn from a lot of books and reference materials regarding the concept of life after life. there used to be this great bibliography in the book--i don't know if they still print it but if you like reading about the afterlife then it might be a nice (if not dated) reference.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,771 posts)
40. Good vibes sent.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:31 PM
Dec 2022

It's a terrible thing to watch someone you love die. The family will appreciate your help and the time you're giving them. And I know that you'll be there for your wife when it's all over.

debm55

(25,741 posts)
45. Professor, sending prayers of comfort to those around your wife's friend. May the friend find peace
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:48 PM
Dec 2022

in her final journey. May her memories be a blessing to all that know and love her. May her family and friends find peace. strength duing this time.

SWBTATTReg

(22,201 posts)
49. My best to you all during these trying times. NT
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:54 PM
Dec 2022

P.S. Be sure to take care of yourselves too, sometimes during times such as this, that one tends to forget about themselves too, needing food and rest (and of course we all understand so don't freak out, rest assured that all of us are there in heart and soul w/ you every step of the way).

louslobbs

(3,239 posts)
50. Thinking of you all 💕
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:54 PM
Dec 2022

I live with controlled BPD….I wish your wife peace and love. Sometimes the hardest part for us when stressed or when dealing with an upset, is the constant conversation in our heads.

May you find strength and comfort in each other’s presence and love.

MLAA

(17,369 posts)
51. Sending you and your wife hugs as you work through this challenging time.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:55 PM
Dec 2022

For the professor in you, the transitive property of caring:

If you care for wife during this time and wife cares for her dear friend during this time , then you are caring for dear friend during this time.

honest.abe

(8,688 posts)
52. Very sad story. Coincidentally I also returned from the Peace Corps in 1980.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:56 PM
Dec 2022

What country did she serve as Peace Corps?

ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
56. Palau!
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:13 PM
Dec 2022

She spent a couple years in Vista in Missouri. (Cape Girardeau? Seems familiar. ) Then joined the PC.
She missed our wedding because she didn't get home until about 5 months after our date.
Oddly enough, we honeymooned in the Keys, and then she went there to work when she got back. Had she come home 6 months sooner, we'd have seen her at the wedding & on our honeymoon!
Where did you go in the PC?

honest.abe

(8,688 posts)
57. I was in the Philippines.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:16 PM
Dec 2022

A life changing experience for young naive clueless dude right out of college.

ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
59. Well, More Coincidence In This Conversation
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:20 PM
Dec 2022

I did some troubleshooting & optimization at a manufacturing site in the Philippines. Been there a half-dozen times. South of Manila; coastal Batangas.

honest.abe

(8,688 posts)
62. Yea, I know that area very well.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:27 PM
Dec 2022

Travelled there several times. My wife is a Filipina from a small town in Mindanao so we visit the Philippines frequently.

One other connection.. I am also originally from the Stl Louis area so not far from Cape Giradeau.

Owl

(3,647 posts)
58. Sending good vibes your way.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:20 PM
Dec 2022

My stepbrother died from lung cancer yesterday. Never smoked. Diagnosed just 3 months ago. Life is fragile.

Laffy Kat

(16,392 posts)
66. It's so hard.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:35 PM
Dec 2022

Having been the caretaker in such situations, I can tell you how important it is to get a couple of hours of respite a few times a week. I'm sure your time with her is greatly appreciated.

Response to ProfessorGAC (Original post)

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
79. Hugs to all
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 04:54 AM
Dec 2022


After watching what my father was subjected to. I hope to just drop dead quickly without any awareness. I never want to be at the hands of evil people like that.

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
82. Sending positive vibes to you and your wife
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 06:55 AM
Dec 2022

It is never easy to watch someone you love suffer. Best wishes for the both of you through this troubling time.

Nac Mac Feegle

(972 posts)
92. If you can, try to do something for the hospice nurses
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:54 PM
Dec 2022

Their work is often forgotten in the dire moments that are happening.

A couple of my greatest regrets are not having done so, and losing the opportunity.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
93. It's always harder on the ones left behind.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 04:38 PM
Dec 2022

A friendship of 55+ years, WOW.

Your wife must be some kind of special to have kept up with that friendship over all the changes that happen to people.

And you are some kind of special to help her with this last walk of love.

Awesome people attract like energy.

I hope her friend becomes a sweet angel at her side giving her comfort from the other side.



Warpy

(111,437 posts)
94. Good vibes from people around her will do her a great deal of good
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 05:08 PM
Dec 2022

For the last 3 years of her life, my mother complained bitterly that her mother hadn't contacted her. She knew her mother had been dead for n early 50 years at that point but she kept expecting a visit. Whatever happens in our brains as we start to get close to death is strange for the observers but it's extremely comforting for the dying.

Often people come to them in their dreams, but occasionally it happens when they're awake. No, it's not exactly hallucination, it's not the drugs, but it's very, very common. Something lovely and protective takes over when people are close to the end.

I don't know if my grandmother ever turned up, my mother's last weeks were non verbal ones. I have to hope both her parents did, her dad healthy, sober and nonviolent for once. She did die without fear of judgment or hell.

So hold her hand and listen to anything she has to tell you and don't worry that she's going crazy. She's not, death is often like that.

(Old retired RN here, and I've seen a lot of dying and death)

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