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EarthFirst

(2,905 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 07:59 PM Dec 2022

Face Recognition Tech Gets Girl Scout Mom Booted From Rockettes Show

Face Recognition Tech Gets Girl Scout Mom Booted From Rockettes Show — Due to Where She Works

A recent incident at Radio City Music Hall involving the mother of a Girl Scout is shedding light on the growing controversy of facial recognition, as critics claim it is being used to target perceived enemies — in this case, by one of the most famous companies in the country.

A sign says facial recognition is used as a security measure to ensure safety for guests and employees. Conlon says she posed no threat, but the guards still kicked her out with the explanation that they knew she was an attorney.

"They knew my name before I told them. They knew the firm I was associated with before I told them. And they told me I was not allowed to be there," said Conlon.

Conlon is an associate with the New Jersey based law firm, Davis, Saperstein and Solomon, which for years has been involved in personal injury litigation against a restaurant venue now under the umbrella of MSG Entertainment.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/face-recognition-tech-gets-girl-scout-mom-booted-from-rockettes-show-due-to-her-employer/4004677/?fbclid=IwAR2o7Hw0rEwV9ZvaPY7dx5-JHD8zbYSilFzL8gp1O2zTkUefPv-Nvtrr-l4#lbwvwijq3ngqosj3xgl

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Face Recognition Tech Gets Girl Scout Mom Booted From Rockettes Show (Original Post) EarthFirst Dec 2022 OP
This is so silly... secondwind Dec 2022 #1
Much worse than just silly NoRethugFriends Dec 2022 #2
This! nt EarthFirst Dec 2022 #4
Entry into venues today; schools, occupations, healthcare tommorrow. marble falls Dec 2022 #3
I feel like we'd literally be living in a simulation if that happened. Initech Dec 2022 #8
oh, it is coming Celerity Dec 2022 #10
Maybe DuranDuranDUme Dec 2022 #13
good point Celerity Dec 2022 #15
This is some scary shit. WTF. Kittycatkat Dec 2022 #5
So she proves them right... by suing. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2022 #6
What's with the "Girl Scout" thing? Effete Snob Dec 2022 #7
It was a Girl Scout field trip. old as dirt Dec 2022 #11
I'd guess that a troop of scouts was attending the Christmas show... Silent3 Dec 2022 #12
Yes, but that's not really relevant Effete Snob Dec 2022 #16
There used to be an attorney DUer, I forget the name, here who used to shed light on these stories. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2022 #14
It does have that aroma Effete Snob Dec 2022 #17
madness! and also terrifying Celerity Dec 2022 #9

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,352 posts)
6. So she proves them right... by suing.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 08:24 PM
Dec 2022

I can see why a business wouldn’t want opposing counsel on the premises.

They claim she was on notice. Was she? It’s probably part of the response to the lawsuit(s) - something like “at no time is any plaintiff, employee, or agent allowed on the premises without court approval”

All impacted attorneys were notified of the policy, including Davis, Saperstein and Salomon, which was notified twice,"


I guess she figured a truce is called because her daughter is a Scout?

I once worked in a business that was involved in a personal injury suit. A lawyer and an assistant pretended to be customers so they could gain access to take photographs of our offices - I guess I was more pissed off because they suckered me LOL. I put 2 and 2 together when they acted strange and then quickly snapped pictures of our back office (the guy took a shortcut though the office and walked through a plate glass window that should have been tempered glass and nearly cut his arm off)



 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
7. What's with the "Girl Scout" thing?
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 08:29 PM
Dec 2022

Wtf difference does it make, and why is she dragging in her daughter’s membership in GS as if it were some kind of issue?

Silent3

(15,427 posts)
12. I'd guess that a troop of scouts was attending the Christmas show...
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 08:45 PM
Dec 2022

...and the mother was there with her daughter for that.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
16. Yes, but that's not really relevant
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 08:59 PM
Dec 2022

Management didn’t know who she was there with, and it had nothing to do with why management wanted her excluded from the property.

What seems odd to me is how did the system identify her as an associate of the firm. Something seems missing from this story and I can’t put my finger on it.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,352 posts)
14. There used to be an attorney DUer, I forget the name, here who used to shed light on these stories.
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 08:48 PM
Dec 2022

Usually when you see these “outrage stories” in the media, there is either a plaintiff’s attorney or an insurance company attorney pushing the story.

I’m thinking this is pretty boilerplate stuff. You can’t go on the property of a business you are suing. Seems logical to me. The attorney should know that.

Now add in a multimillion dollar security contract and some nifty tech meant to catch “terrorists” and you get regular people caught in the nets (brought to you by 9/11 - usually it’s just pot smokers at the airport)

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
17. It does have that aroma
Tue Dec 20, 2022, 09:04 PM
Dec 2022

One of the things to ask when you see a story like this is “How did this get into the news?”

It’s not as if the venue put out a press release about how their security system spotted an excluded person. Someone is definitely wanting attention.

Casinos have had this sort of thing for ages to keep out card counters or people who have identified themselves as compulsive gamblers. Obviously, we have to explore issues around new and intrusive technologies.

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