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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,410 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 02:55 PM Dec 2022

New York's alleged GOP fraudster congressman reportedly a registered Florida resident

George Santos, the Republican congressman-elect for a House seat based in Long Island and Queens, New York, was seemingly exposed as a fraudster by The New York Times on Monday, but even more questions are now arising after he appears to have filed paperwork on Tuesday stating his place of residence is in Florida.

That’s according to two investigative articles from Talking Points Memo.

On Tuesday evening TPM reported that in May of 2021 Santos registered his company, Devolder Organization LLC, which has no website and it’s unclear what the operation actually does, in Florida.

“On his congressional disclosure form he reported $750,000 in income from the company and between $1 million and $5 million in dividends,” TPM adds. “This compares with $55,000 in income he reported two years earlier from a different employer when he ran for the same seat in 2020. But the company was dissolved in September 2022, the same month as the disclosure form was filed, because the company never filed an annual report.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-york-s-alleged-gop-fraudster-congressman-reportedly-a-registered-florida-resident/ar-AA15xdUY

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New York's alleged GOP fraudster congressman reportedly a registered Florida resident (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 OP
At this point one must ask... DURHAM D Dec 2022 #1
He's a Russian Agent. Captain Zero Dec 2022 #2
It sure looks like it, doesn't it? eom BComplex Dec 2022 #8
Russian Oligarch's Cousin Funneled Cash to N.Y. Politician Celerity Dec 2022 #51
According to his mother's obituary in 2016, no. Then he was listed as George Devolder. deurbano Dec 2022 #20
Wow.. TY. t Cha Dec 2022 #21
This guy is dirty. Ray Bruns Dec 2022 #3
I don't think any other of this matters DeeDeeNY Dec 2022 #4
Perhaps they can boot him leftieNanner Dec 2022 #5
You do not have to live in the district you represent. Celerity Dec 2022 #50
but you do have to live in the same state. nt Baltimike Dec 2022 #52
At this point they should just investigate what his real name is. nt Carlitos Brigante Dec 2022 #6
If they refuse to seat him (I know, dream on) would that mean a Liberal In Texas Dec 2022 #7
Yes. In NY, vacant seats are filled by special elections. wnylib Dec 2022 #14
For tax purposes, he wants a Florida address. SergeStorms Dec 2022 #29
The US constitution wants residency in the state being represented. wnylib Dec 2022 #31
Just another piece of parchment... SergeStorms Dec 2022 #35
Actually... johnnyfins Dec 2022 #37
Correct! SergeStorms Dec 2022 #39
All grifters have their residence in Florida or Texas CanonRay Dec 2022 #9
If he obtained his citizenship without disclosing his legal issues in brazil.... getagrip_already Dec 2022 #10
I heard he shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #12
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Dec 2022 #16
are you saying the nyt printed rumors without fact checking? getagrip_already Dec 2022 #18
I hear that train a rolling... inthewind21 Dec 2022 #19
I heard he shot the sheriff, but he did not shoot the deputy. n/t ms liberty Dec 2022 #23
A project for us NYers to work on. wnylib Dec 2022 #32
Espionage in the making? bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #11
If his "company" or "employer" was in FL, sounds like he worked for a money laundering operation. ancianita Dec 2022 #13
Like maybe NY Senator Schumer? wnylib Dec 2022 #33
Not really. More like party operatives, accountants, or party legal counsel's hires. ancianita Dec 2022 #36
The pit gets deeper don't it? Pas-de-Calais Dec 2022 #15
Some of these Republican fiascos make up a little for the pain they've put us through over the last Martin68 Dec 2022 #17
His dem opponent said he tried to bring some of this out in the open Bev54 Dec 2022 #22
Too bad, but I don't see indication, beyond his Florida filing claiming so, Hortensis Dec 2022 #24
rest assured onethatcares Dec 2022 #25
Oh. Abso-frickin-lutely! dchill Dec 2022 #28
Where was all this investigation before the election? Reader Rabbit Dec 2022 #26
No kidding. This was a complete failure to... reACTIONary Dec 2022 #40
For the millionth time-- Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #42
I hadn't heard that... reACTIONary Dec 2022 #44
Does anybody think that the GOP (American Nazi Party)... dchill Dec 2022 #27
Nope. He will vote EXACTLY as he is directed to vote Captain Zero Dec 2022 #43
And it will be such good practice for him! dchill Dec 2022 #46
yet we see DownriverDem Dec 2022 #30
They (R's) will probably make him Speaker James48 Dec 2022 #34
The incompetence of the DCCC for not doing oppo research on this guy is embarrassing Trenzalore Dec 2022 #38
+10 nt reACTIONary Dec 2022 #41
They did their research Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #45
If you can link the campaign video Trenzalore Dec 2022 #47
Thank you. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #48
Hmmm.... NowISeetheLight Dec 2022 #49

Celerity

(43,707 posts)
51. Russian Oligarch's Cousin Funneled Cash to N.Y. Politician
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 05:19 AM
Dec 2022
https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-george-devolder-santos-got-cash-from-andrew-intrater-cousin-of-russian-oligarch-viktor-vekselberg

The cousin and cash handler for one of Russia’s most notorious oligarchs poured tens of thousands of dollars into electing a newly minted congressman-elect who called Ukraine’s government “a totalitarian regime.”

Republican George Devolder-Santos vanquished Democrat Robert Zimmerman this month in the race for a House seat covering parts of Long Island and the New York City borough of Queens—riding a red wave that swept the Empire State this cycle, and washing away two decades of Democratic dominance in the district.

Devolder-Santos had long courted conservative media attention by presenting himself as a “walking, living, breathing contradiction”—a gay Latino millennial born in New York City, who is also a fervent devotee of ex-President Donald Trump.

For much of his professional career, which included a stint as regional director at an alleged Ponzi scheme, the Republican used the name George Devolder. However, as he ventured further into the world of politics, he began to increasingly use the name George Devolder-Santos or simply George Santos.

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Baltimike

(4,148 posts)
52. but you do have to live in the same state. nt
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 07:00 AM
Dec 2022

The Constitution requires that Members of the House be at least 25 years old, have been a U.S. citizen for at least seven years, and live in the state they represent (though not necessarily the same district).

wnylib

(21,733 posts)
14. Yes. In NY, vacant seats are filled by special elections.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 03:46 PM
Dec 2022

But the Republican House will not refuse to seat him.

However, House members must, by law, be residents of the states that they represent. If someone challenges him on it, he is likely to just change his listing of residency.

I don't know what penalty there is, if any, for lying on disclosure forms.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
29. For tax purposes, he wants a Florida address.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 05:09 PM
Dec 2022

For political purposes, he wants a New York address.

What's a lying republican (I know, an oxymoron) to do?

wnylib

(21,733 posts)
31. The US constitution wants residency in the state being represented.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 05:13 PM
Dec 2022

But then R's and their fascist leader regard the constitution as an inconvenience.

getagrip_already

(14,946 posts)
10. If he obtained his citizenship without disclosing his legal issues in brazil....
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 03:16 PM
Dec 2022

He could have his citizenship revoked and be deported.

He was under indictment for check fraud, but fled to the us before they could grab him.

You have to disclose all arrests, warrants, and charges to the us when applying. Forgetting is not an excuse.

Just having an outstanding court case he didn't disclose should get him a ticket back.

jaxexpat

(6,871 posts)
12. I heard he shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 03:33 PM
Dec 2022

This rumor deserves as much respect as all the other rumors. I defy me to contradict myself.

getagrip_already

(14,946 posts)
18. are you saying the nyt printed rumors without fact checking?
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 03:55 PM
Dec 2022

The Times found that he apparently did not graduate from Baruch College, he did not work for Goldman Sachs or Citigroup, there were no records of him being a successful financier, nor were there of him registering his animal rescue charity. The Times also found that he had been charged with check fraud in Brazil.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23520848/george-santos-fake-resume

I don't have access to the times article itself, but it is apparently in there.

wnylib

(21,733 posts)
32. A project for us NYers to work on.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 05:16 PM
Dec 2022

I am not in his district or even near it, but I'm thinking that Schumer needs some phone calls from his NY constituents about this.

Anyone else who wants to join in, feel free.

ancianita

(36,209 posts)
13. If his "company" or "employer" was in FL, sounds like he worked for a money laundering operation.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 03:34 PM
Dec 2022

Money launderers are quick to dissolve and sloppy with filings.
How in heck did he end up as a stealth carpetbagger on Long Island/Queens, anyway.

Somebody on behalf of Democrats should follow that money.

ancianita

(36,209 posts)
36. Not really. More like party operatives, accountants, or party legal counsel's hires.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 05:37 PM
Dec 2022

Maybe Marc Elias' group.

Martin68

(22,949 posts)
17. Some of these Republican fiascos make up a little for the pain they've put us through over the last
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 03:53 PM
Dec 2022

few decades.

Bev54

(10,088 posts)
22. His dem opponent said he tried to bring some of this out in the open
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 04:34 PM
Dec 2022

but the media was not interested, they were too busy chasing squirrels in the governor's race.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Too bad, but I don't see indication, beyond his Florida filing claiming so,
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 04:42 PM
Dec 2022

that he has been a resident of Florida. Lying to FL wouldn't disqualify him from being sworn in for the Long Island seat.

He's probably a pathological liar. A lengthy NYT article ran on and on listing many unverifiable or outrighit disproven statements, many likely totally unnecessary lies. Lying on a FL filing that he was resident, if it is a lie, would be just SOP for him.

Funny how many of these people this era's Gang of Psychos attracts -- and elevates to office.

Everyone's wondering, though, how Democrats managed to lose this seat, previously Democratic. No incumbent running from any party. Our guy was a newbie to electoral candidacy, and obviously very bad staff work was a factor.

Anything else? He identified as both a Democrat and member of the Working Families Party, so voters would have identified him with both. Another WFP candidate aso ran in the Democratic primary and took 15.8% of the district's vote, to his 35.7%. The WFP didn't have a separate candidate in the GE. This stuff means nothing to me. I'm from elsewhere.

reACTIONary

(5,794 posts)
40. No kidding. This was a complete failure to...
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 08:50 PM
Dec 2022

... conduct robust opposition research. And given the narrow margin for the majority in the house, winning this seat would have been significant.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
42. For the millionth time--
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 09:04 PM
Dec 2022

The Democrat opponent did his opposition research, and tried to bring it to the media's attention.

THEY IGNORED HIM.

I keep telling y'all that most of the media are r thug stenographers and willing accomplices. That vast majority are not our friends, and not remotely interested in being fair or impartial.

This has been true for over 40 years now.

reACTIONary

(5,794 posts)
44. I hadn't heard that...
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 09:10 PM
Dec 2022

... nor was it mentioned in the original NYTs article which detailed their investigation and did not give any credit to his opponent.

Could you provide a source for your information ? I would like to follow up on it.

dchill

(38,601 posts)
27. Does anybody think that the GOP (American Nazi Party)...
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 04:51 PM
Dec 2022

...is actually going to have any problems with this? I, for one, do not.

James48

(4,444 posts)
34. They (R's) will probably make him Speaker
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 05:30 PM
Dec 2022

He has all the hallmarks of a GOP leader.
Deceit, theft, fraud.

Yep. Speaker of the House material!

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
45. They did their research
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 09:16 PM
Dec 2022

The D opponent tried to bring it to the attention of the media, and he was ignored. So many of you DNC/DCCC bashers are patently unaware of how the media ignoring Democratic candidates is not unusual. It's the NORM.

I've worked on multiple campaigns where the only coverage we could get in the media was the ads we paid for. I've been there when the traitor scum media fellated r thugs and wrote long, glowing puff pieces extolling those fascists, while ignoring the D opponent running or writing only brief, dismissive paragraphs dropped into r pieces.

I was THERE when a local candidate I was campaigning for, a KNOWN expert in a particular field, was ignored about an issue regarding that field while an R who could barely breathe without being told to do so was interviewed about that very topic in our big city local "newspaper?" Guess who won that election? Not the D, that's for dang sure.

I witnessed when Joaquin Castro tried to warn the public in July of 2016 about Russian interference in the election. Know what it took to get that information into our traitor scum media? He had to drop it into a feel-good local story about a Hispanic Heritage event. He got all of ONE FRICKING SENTENCE to try to warn We the People of the danger we were in.

One sentence. That's it. It was literally buried in a stupid fluff piece.

When are all of you DNC/DCCC bashers going to wake up to how Democrats can do all the oppo research in the world, try to tout D successes, or try to get just plain need-to-know info out to the public, but it does NO DANG GOOD if the media refuses to give Democrats the platform to share that information?

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
47. If you can link the campaign video
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 11:02 PM
Dec 2022

I live in a pretty competitive house district in PA. There were plenty of videos on my congress woman's opponent's real record. So much she had to put out counter ads to try to mitigate the damage.

If the campaign knew this information and didn't put ads showing that their opponent was lying on social media, TV, and through mailers to households that is another level of malpractice and the campaign manager should never work in democratic politics again.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
49. Hmmm....
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 04:54 AM
Dec 2022

Republican checklist….

1. Lying about wealth (like Trump)
2. Lying about education (like Cawthorn)
3. Lying about residency (like Walker)

Yep… he’s a qualified Republican candidate!

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