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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,512 posts)
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:16 PM Dec 2022

160 years ago today, the largest mass execution in U.S. history took place, ordered by A. Lincoln

There was no due process. No representation, no talk of broken treaties. It was the beginning of exile from the Minnesota area. Most of the bodies were dug up within a day of the hanging, to be used as cadavers, including one stolen by William Mayo, a name you might recognize.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/news/traumatic-true-history-full-list-dakota-38

On the day after Christmas in 1862, 38 Dakota men were hanged under order of President Abraham Lincoln. The hangings and convictions of the Dakota 38 resulted from the aftermath of the U.S.-Dakota War of 1862 in southwest Minnesota.

In addition to the 38 men hanged the day after Christmas, there were terrible injustices committed against 265 others in the form of military convictions and inhuman injustices to more than 3,000 Dakota people who were held captive, then forced to march west out of Minnesota.


https://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath/trials-hanging

As the men took their assigned places on the scaffold, they sang a Dakota song as white muslin coverings were pulled over their faces. Drumbeats signalled the start of the execution. The men grasped each others’ hands. With a single blow from an ax, the rope that held the platform was cut. Capt. William Duley, who had lost several members of his family in the attack on the Lake Shetek settlement, cut the rope. 


This all took place during the same week Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation.
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160 years ago today, the largest mass execution in U.S. history took place, ordered by A. Lincoln (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 OP
Didn't hear a word of this until very late in life, stumbled across it reading actual history. Judi Lynn Dec 2022 #1
American history has been largely white washed...literally...nt Wounded Bear Dec 2022 #5
abe Lincoln wasn't so honest reymega life Dec 2022 #2
THIS n/t malaise Dec 2022 #4
perhaps not. in other particulars. stopdiggin Dec 2022 #9
Oh Delphinus Dec 2022 #3
I'm embarrassed to admit that the first time I heard about this was on DU about 2 or 3 years ago Polybius Dec 2022 #6
Thank you for that grim reminder. A truly horrific act. niyad Dec 2022 #7
from wikipedia Progressive dog Dec 2022 #8
thanks. instructive. -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2022 #10
Yes, colonization is violence to just about everyone involved. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #11
The reason ppl mention the commutations is that Lincoln did nor order the executions. speak easy Dec 2022 #18
It's interesting that people are so resistant to the reality and the terminology around it. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #21
I am resistant to mistatements. speak easy Dec 2022 #23
. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #24
Its this letter kosher? speak easy Dec 2022 #26
It's addressed to Brigadier General Henry Hastings Sibley, the first governor of Minnesota. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #27
OK Got it. speak easy Dec 2022 #28
I think it is a fly shit and pepper mix, picking contest. But I will join in. The Jungle 1 Dec 2022 #34
That counts as being "woke"- Thanks packman Dec 2022 #12
I just learned something new today. As a postersaid above, American history has been white washed. iluvtennis Dec 2022 #13
There is even more disgust. See my post below The Jungle 1 Dec 2022 #20
TY. n/t iluvtennis Dec 2022 #29
Ol' Honest Abe Wibly Dec 2022 #14
Do you have a source for the claim about Lincoln signing the waybills? Jedi Guy Dec 2022 #25
Yeah the only documented case I ever heard of was done much earlier by a British officer. nt EX500rider Dec 2022 #32
I was unaware of this tragic event until reading your post nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #15
The wars for which the men were executed were self defense wars wnylib Dec 2022 #16
Descendants of executed Dakota 38+2 ride to Mankato to honor ancestors WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #17
There is even more horror involved in this American history lesson. This is worth your time. The Jungle 1 Dec 2022 #19
Thanks for this add'l info. n/t iluvtennis Dec 2022 #31
Everywhere on this planet someone has died to get out of the way from what's coming. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #22
Something we learned about in 6th grade sarisataka Dec 2022 #30
important history... DeSantis would not allow this to be taught in Florida schools BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #33

Judi Lynn

(160,663 posts)
1. Didn't hear a word of this until very late in life, stumbled across it reading actual history.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:28 PM
Dec 2022

Thank you so much for taking the time to point it out.

How much real history has ever been taught to the US public, anyway? Clearly there's a vast history which has been deeply, so deeply buried, while the Trump kind of version has been serving us, instead.



stopdiggin

(11,411 posts)
9. perhaps not. in other particulars.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 01:08 PM
Dec 2022

But this specific incident (while open to charges of being unjust and barbaric) - was not concealed or hidden away - and in fact deliberately made public (and thus a rather poor candidate for 'dishonest'.)

Polybius

(15,522 posts)
6. I'm embarrassed to admit that the first time I heard about this was on DU about 2 or 3 years ago
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:41 PM
Dec 2022

I don't think I ever learned about this in history class.

Progressive dog

(6,931 posts)
8. from wikipedia
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:59 PM
Dec 2022
By the end of the war, 358 settlers had been killed, in addition to 77 soldiers and 29 volunteer militia.

In less than six weeks, a military commission, composed of officers from the Minnesota volunteer Infantry, sentenced 303 Dakota men to death. President Abraham Lincoln reviewed the convictions and approved death sentences for 39 out of the 303

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,512 posts)
11. Yes, colonization is violence to just about everyone involved.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 01:15 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath

Of the more than 600 white people killed during the war, just over 70 were soldiers, and about 50 more were armed civilians. The others were unarmed civilians--mostly young men, women, and children who were recent immigrants to Minnesota. Historian Curtis Dahlin, who has extracted figures from public and cemetery records as well as from media reports, estimates that 30 per cent of the civilians killed were children aged ten and under. Another 40 per cent were adults between the ages of 20 and 40.
 
Historians have names for 32 of the estimated 75-100 Dakota soldiers who died during the war (and before the executions on December 26). These names have been gleaned primarily from the testimony of Dakota eyewitnesses.
 
More than one-quarter of the Dakota people who surrendered in 1862 died during the following year.

After their exile from Minnesota, the Dakota faced concentration onto reservations, pressure to assimilate, and opening of reservation land for white settlement.


It's interesting, every year I post this, someone points out the commutations. I find it fascinating, tbh.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,512 posts)
21. It's interesting that people are so resistant to the reality and the terminology around it.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:19 PM
Dec 2022

Lincoln reviewed every one of these cases, and ordered the executions that were carried out.

President Lincoln and government lawyers then reviewed the trial transcripts of all 303 men. As Lincoln would later explain to the U.S. Senate:
 
"Anxious to not act with so much clemency as to encourage another outbreak on one hand, nor with so much severity as to be real cruelty on the other, I ordered a careful examination of the records of the trials to be made, in view of first ordering the execution of such as had been proved guilty of violating females."
 
When only two men were found guilty of rape, Lincoln expanded the criteria to include those who had participated in “massacres” of civilians rather than just “battles.” He then made his final decision, and forwarded a list of 39 names to Sibley.


https://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath/trials-hanging

speak easy

(9,345 posts)
23. I am resistant to mistatements.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:55 PM
Dec 2022

A Military Commission, acting as a judicial body, sentenced the 303 men to death. The President, exercising the pardon power, commuted the sentences of 265 of those so sentenced. I have no doubt that the trials were characterized by outrageous injustices, but it was the Commission, not the President who ordered the executions. The OP heading "the largest mass execution in U.S. history [was] ordered by A. Lincoln" is legally and factually wrong.

speak easy

(9,345 posts)
26. Its this letter kosher?
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:16 PM
Dec 2022

It is addressed to Brigadier General Henry Hopkins Sibley, who resigned from the United States Army in May 1961 to join the Confederacy.

speak easy

(9,345 posts)
28. OK Got it.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:54 PM
Dec 2022

Brigadier General Henry Hastings Sibley, was the first Governor of Minnesota, and U.S. military leader in the Dakota War of 1862; and Brigadier General Henry Hopkins Sibley, was the Confederate officer.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
34. I think it is a fly shit and pepper mix, picking contest. But I will join in.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:02 AM
Dec 2022

Can a Military Commission assert jurisdiction over people who are acknowledged to be enemy combatants who are alleged to have broken civil or criminal laws? Native Americans were not given citizenship until 1924.
I believe the entire Military Commission was illegal. The "enemy combatant" should have been allowed to contest the detention before a neutral party. All this came up recently with the Taliban and our prisons.

I guess our problem is we are using today's standards to judge 160 year old history.
Bottom line there is nothing acceptable about this piece of American history and we need to teach and understand all of it.
The Native Americans involved in this war were brutal. Killing woman and children. Dakota warriors torturing and mutilating bodies, beyond a simple scalping. Reportedly, one woman‟s baby was snatched from her. Bad bad history all around.

iluvtennis

(19,905 posts)
13. I just learned something new today. As a postersaid above, American history has been white washed.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 02:37 PM
Dec 2022

This is so disgusting.

Wibly

(613 posts)
14. Ol' Honest Abe
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 02:50 PM
Dec 2022

Who freed the slaves but killed the Indians, at least had the integrity to sign his own name to things.
For example, when he sent the small pox infested blankets of armies of the Potomac into "Indian Territory" he himself signed the weigh bills, because he felt it was wrong for him to place the burden of Genocide on any of his underlings.
About 100 of those blankets wound up crossing the Canadian border near modern day Nelway on the Washington border with British Columbia, and wiped out an entire nation of people living in the Kootenay area of BC.
Unlike the most recent Republican President, Lincoln at least did not look to put the blame on others for his misdeeds.

Jedi Guy

(3,286 posts)
25. Do you have a source for the claim about Lincoln signing the waybills?
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:15 PM
Dec 2022

I ask because I'm strongly inclined to doubt the claim. The only documented historical evidence of smallpox-infected blankets being sent/given to Native peoples, to the best of my knowledge, involves two incidents from 1763, nearly 50 years before Lincoln was born.

There was a terrible smallpox epidemic among the First Nations in the winter of 1837-38, but again, decades before Lincoln took office. There were additional outbreaks in the 1870s, and the problem with Lincoln's involvement there should be pretty obvious.

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
15. I was unaware of this tragic event until reading your post
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 02:52 PM
Dec 2022

Much of American history has been left out as to what is taught and passed down to the public. It seems the powers that be only want the good side to show while hiding the reality of very horrible treatments to large groups of people. Native Americans, African-Americans, Chinese, Japanese etc know that horrible treatment all too well. Not surprising to find that many famous leaders or Presidents did unimaginable deeds in the name of fear. Many of those men we were taught to look up to had very dark sides as we've learned more about them as time goes on.

My apologies to the treatment of the Dakota men that day.

The only solace I take is my grandfathers and grandmothers came to America from another country. One grandfather in 1908 the rest in 1910.

wnylib

(21,772 posts)
16. The wars for which the men were executed were self defense wars
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:06 PM
Dec 2022

against the invasions of people into the Dakota lands.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,512 posts)
17. Descendants of executed Dakota 38+2 ride to Mankato to honor ancestors
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:10 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2022/12/23/descendants-of-executed-dakota-382-ride-to-mankato-to-honor-ancestors

In 2005, Lakota spiritual leader Jim Miller dreamt of Dakota people on horseback returning home to Minnesota. The ride became reality in 2008 with descendants of the executed men in the group. It’s been repeated each December since. 

Now, only four of the original riders remain, and they said this will be their last. So, they say the ride will end.

Josette Peltier of Flandreau, a Dakota elder and Miller’s sister, says the ride fulfilled her brother’s dream, and she’s seen people change over the years. 

“I’ve healed,” Peltier, 69, said. “I’ve gotten a lot of healing from this ride. And, I’m really grateful that my brother had this dream because had I not come on the ride, I don’t think I would have been able to grasp my roots.”


 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
19. There is even more horror involved in this American history lesson. This is worth your time.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:14 PM
Dec 2022

The men were not hung. Hanging breaks the neck and you die quickly. The ropes were to short and the Native Americans strangled to death. To the delight of the assembled spectators. Let there be no confusion, we knew how to hang people.
One Native America was miss identified and should not have been there.

Their trials lasted an average of ten minutes with no translators. They were fighting because of broken treaties.
The bodies were taking down to a river and buried in shallow graves at the waters edge. The river would wash them away because we wanted no martyrs.

However the inhumanity continued. The bodies were dug up and spread around the country for medical experiments and dissection. A doctor by the name of William Worrall Mayo was involved. Ya might have heard of him. He was given Marpiya Okinajin. The body was desecrated and used to educate other physicians. He used Okinajin’s skeleton to teach his sons about human anatomy. Restitution and apologies for his actions were given many years later. I do not know if satisfaction was achived.

The only defense I can offer for Lincoln is that over 100 Native Americans were convicted in sham trails. He only allowed 38 to be hung. A case could be made he had no other political path open to him.

This is the history the American right does not want taught. Mostly it is not taught. WE must teach our history.

jaxexpat

(6,878 posts)
22. Everywhere on this planet someone has died to get out of the way from what's coming.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 03:37 PM
Dec 2022

If pioneers had foreknowledge of the apocalypse their effort would cause, would they have still settled onto native lands?

About 16% of the estimated 170,000 population of Minnesota volunteered for service in the Union army. Over 10% of those died in the war. Minnesota was the first to respond to Lincoln's call for state volunteers after the firing on Ft Sumter.

Looks like the Dakota were forced to press their points at a horrible time in US history. Lincoln could ill afford foregoing security aid to these settlers or to urge an abundance of charity toward the Dakota in that moment.

There's never a good time to be on the wrong side of history.

sarisataka

(18,896 posts)
30. Something we learned about in 6th grade
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 05:06 PM
Dec 2022

Our teacher believed state history was important so we spent half a year learning about where we lived.

While there were more than a few atrocities committed against white settlers, the root cause was failure of the US to live up to its treaty obligations. Starvation creates desperation and led to the bloodiest period of the so called Indian Wars.

In Lincoln’s defense, he did do a review and commuted the majority. Against that is the fact the "trials" had no basis or justification under any law, civil or military.

Governor Ramsey advised Lincoln that people would take "peivate revenge" if all 303 were not hung. So in essence Lincoln approved a public lynching of 38 in an attempt to pacify the white population. Reading about Lincoln beyond the mythology is very interesting. He had both great virtues and great flaws but a recurring theme is he was very pragmatic. It is worth knowing he was consciously aware when he did things that did not meet his usual moral standards.

FWIW, he also had questionable authority to issue the Emancipation Proclamation, and had someone challenged it in court it would have likely been ruled unconstitutional.

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