An Insanity Plea for Trump? Professor Tribe says, 'Yes'.

[Joinfortmill]

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-s-legal-team-should-have-him-plead-insanity-harvard-law-professor/

'Trump's legal team should have him plead insanity: Harvard law professor'

'Constitutional law expert Lawrence Tribe tweeted this Sunday that Donald Trump's legal team should get him to plead insanity if he goes to trial.'

I don't see Trump agreeing to this but, hey, could happen (my words). What do you think?

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	Trump will NOT plea insanity
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	Trump will plead guilty
	0 (0%)
	Trump will plead NOT guilty
	7 (28%)
	Trump will flee the country
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	Trump will kill himself
	0 (0%)
	Trump will refuse to leave Mar-a-Lago and the Feds will have to pull him out by his hair
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[CTyankee]

1. They'll have to drag him out of Mar a Lago AND he will plead insanity.

The dragging out will be part of the shtick. It's all an act anyway.

[mopinko]

3. no, it's real. his brain is swiss cheese.

all they’ll have to do is pull up his records from reed.
none of this shit was his idea. he wasnt smart enough to pull this off ever since the studio 54 days, if he ever was. he’s just a very charismatic post turtle.

[CTyankee]

4. Well, ok, whatever. I just want that wart on the ass of humanity to be gone and never heard from

again.

[mopinko]

2. i've been hoping for this for a while, so i voted my hopes.

i think the kids will push him, or file to have him declared incompetent.
there is more than enough evidence at reed.

as much shame as every enabler need to take to their grave and beyond, those that refused to invoke 25a deserve a much bigger share. i’m lookin at you, dr ronnie feelgood. sorry you didnt get sec of v.a., but i’m sure you are enjoying your seat in congress much more.

[CTyankee]

6. well, in a way, having him declared incompetent to stand trial might get him out of our sight.

I do not care as long as he is gone and can never come back.

[Scrivener7]

5. Professor Tribe's track record with predictions re: tfg is pretty awful.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Trump doesn't meet the criteria for not reason by reason of insanity. (NGRI)

They would have to prove he was so mentally ill he had no intent to commit a crime.
And could not distinguish right from wrong.

Trump had clear intent and knew what he was doing was wrong.
Plenty of evidence to prove that.

[mopinko]

10. they have a ton of evidence, and he is clearly delusional.

esp after covid, you cant tell me he had no cognitive decline. but he outright failed that dementia screening. man, woman, person, camera, tv are never the 5 words on that test. they are ALWAYS completely unrelated words. and ronnie jackson belongs in the bring, not the capitol.

and he cant distinguish right from wrong and never rly could.

[Irish_Dem]

11. Being a narcissistic sociopath is not sufficient for NGRI.

Cognitive "decline" is not sufficient for NGRI.

(I used to work as a forensic psychologist.)

Trump's attorneys can try this defense, and maybe the prosecutors will allow it.

But that would be entirely a political decision not a legitimate one based on clinical legal standards.

[mopinko]

12. clear dementia isnt grounds? rly?

i know there are mris of his head. i know they arent normal. i know it’s a sticky wicket. in fact, a case could be made that neurology needs to catch up to justice. i heard an author on fresh air quite a few yrs ago making this case, and it’s very interesting.
he cited cases where ppl given prednisone went on manic sprees, spent all their money, and tried to get their debts cleared in bankruptcy, but failed. and their families couldnt stop them, either. there’s lots of cases like that. we rly need to update that area of law to catch up w science.

these days in the cook co juvie system a kid w violent tendencies can get a neuro work up. too many of these kids had tbis at the hands of their parents or peers. sometimes those kids get treatment instead of incarceration. but it should be sop.

he does have a personality disorder, but that doesnt preclude him from having conditions that have caused him go become detached from reality. which he clearly is.

[bucolic_frolic]

8. He'll plead temporary insanity

Look for exaggerated eccentricities to make their appearance soon

Though how you distinguish from his everyday behavior is anybody's guess

[FlyingPiggy]

9. TRG will not plead guilty, to insanity, & will need to be dragged out of mar-a-loco

This guy quadruples down to everything even as the fires consume him. He’ll go down in flames repeating his lies. And I do pray that he goes down in flames.

[Ocelot II]

13. He'd never plead insanity; he's too much of a narcissist.

Everybody else is crazy, not him. Anders Breivik, the right-wing loon who shot up the summer camp in Norway, could have pled insanity - and he's probably at least as mad as TFG; he was initially diagnosed as schizophrenic but the diagnosis was re-evaluated as narcissistic personality disorder - but he wouldn't let his lawyer make that plea; he insisted he was completely sane and nothing was wrong with him. 'Breivik expressed hope at being declared sane in a letter sent to several Norwegian newspapers shortly before his trial, in which he wrote about the prospect of being sent to a psychiatric ward: "I must admit this is the worst thing that could have happened to me as it is the ultimate humiliation. To send a political activist to a mental hospital is more sadistic and evil than to kill him! It is a fate worse than death."' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik#Psychiatric_evaluation

TFG is a bit less delusional but hardly less narcissistic (and he continues to decompensate), but I very much doubt that he'd go for an insanity defense (which rarely succeeds anyhow). Being declared insane would be just too humiliating for him to bear, as it was for Breivik.

[usonian]

14. He will plead illness, not insanity. From covid vaccination, of course.

or being poisoned by "Deep State"

[Mme. Defarge]

15. I think he will fake his own death

and, when he can no longer tolerate the anonymity, “miraculously” rise from the dead. Then go on trial. Maybe that’s where an insanity plea comes in. When he’s forced to stop eating preservatives, perhaps he’ll finally leave the realm of the undead.

[MissMillie]

16. I do not have a sense of whether or not TFG will attempt to employ that defense

However... if the DOJ is going to agree to a plea deal where TFG claims that he's crazy, then said plea deal MUST include mandatory in-patient treatment.

If he's crazy enough to attempt to overthrow the government and subvert the Constitution, he clearly a danger to society and needs to spend time removed from society.

[republianmushroom]

17. His fellow conspirators can not use the insanity plea. wWhen do the start seeing justice.

We have caught a lot of the little fish, when do we start with the bigger fish, his the inner circle ?

23 months and counting

[GPV]

18. Pull him out by his hair plugs.

[sanatanadharma]

19. Trump insanity means the Nation must admit 4 years of mad-man rule

Insanity means the country had a mad man at the helm. The Constitution does not protect us as it is.
Supporters would need admit that their leader was insane and they unable to see it.
Insanity now does not guarantee insanity then.
If Trump was sane then, justice for then is still required. The actions of the man must be adjudicated,.
Just as we are willing to try and convict juveniles as adults, I say try Trump as a sane man regardless of his current status.
An insane person needs to be locked up, not necessarily jailed, guilty or not, for their own and our safety.

[treestar]

20. He'd never do it

He wouldn't do anything that might admit he is not the greatest brain . . .