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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,406 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 04:08 PM Dec 2022

Social Security denies disability benefits based on list with jobs from 1977

He had made it through four years of denials and appeals, and Robert Heard was finally before a Social Security judge who would decide whether he qualified for disability benefits. Two debilitating strokes had left the 47-year-old electrician with halting speech, an enlarged heart and violent tremors.

There was just one final step: A vocational expert hired by the Social Security Administration had to tell the judge if there was any work Heard could still do despite his condition. Heard was stunned as the expert canvassed his computer and announced his findings: He could find work as a nut sorter, a dowel inspector or an egg processor - jobs that virtually no longer exist in the United States.

"Whatever it is that does those things, machines do it now," said Heard, who lives on food stamps and a small stipend from his parents in a subsidized apartment in Tullahoma, Tenn. "Honestly, if they could see my shaking, they would see I couldn't sort any nuts. I'd spill them all over the floor."

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But while the judge agreed that Heard had multiple, severe impairments, he denied him benefits, writing that he had "job opportunities" in three occupations that are nearly obsolete and agreeing with the expert's dubious claim that 130,000 positions were still available sorting nuts, inspecting dowels and processing eggs.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-denies-disability-benefits-180629865.html

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Social Security denies disability benefits based on list with jobs from 1977 (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 OP
Sadly... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #1
Such a broken system intrepidity Dec 2022 #2
here is the full WaPo story from yesterday - free link Grasswire2 Dec 2022 #3
Inspecting dowels? Thats crazy Demovictory9 Dec 2022 #4
Nut sorting Goonch Dec 2022 #5
K&R Bayard Dec 2022 #6
Fucking republicans I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2022 #7
130,000 positions were still available sorting nuts, inspecting dowels and processing eggs? patphil Dec 2022 #8
The vocational 'expert' and the judge should have to survive for a year 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #9
I was approved my 1st time I applied in less 3 months Kaleva Dec 2022 #10
Very true. James48 Dec 2022 #11
Updates and overhauls needed across Fed and State gov't. Based on science and facts. n/t Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #12
Life is cheap in America. mountain grammy Dec 2022 #13

2naSalit

(86,900 posts)
1. Sadly...
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 04:17 PM
Dec 2022

There are many states where it is impossible to get disability because of shit like this. I was lucky, I was told my case was expedited because I was living in my car.

Goonch

(3,620 posts)
5. Nut sorting
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 04:52 PM
Dec 2022

After going through several machines and color sorters to remove extraneous material and defective kernels, the kernels then are run through robotic sorters. A hand sorting crew gives the nuts a final once-over before they are put in boxes.


Morada Nut Company Maximizes Product Quality With Taurys Digital Sorter

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,496 posts)
7. Fucking republicans
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 05:49 PM
Dec 2022

And thier cruelty and cruel penny pinching ,ridiculous policy for all to see.

So much suffering conservatism causes
I hate to say it,when the older republicans die off and if there is no fascism takeover hopefully things will get better for people like us. And billionairs will be forced to pay real taxes.

patphil

(6,241 posts)
8. 130,000 positions were still available sorting nuts, inspecting dowels and processing eggs?
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 06:10 PM
Dec 2022

I don't believe that, and even if those jobs existed, they would all be done by computer now.
This is just another incompetent, unqualified judge who shouldn't be allowed to stay on the bench.

70sEraVet

(3,533 posts)
9. The vocational 'expert' and the judge should have to survive for a year
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 06:34 PM
Dec 2022

working as nut sorters, dowel inspectors, or egg sorters. THEN deny that guy's claim!

Kaleva

(36,388 posts)
10. I was approved my 1st time I applied in less 3 months
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 06:47 PM
Dec 2022

Applied in Oct and got my 1st check the following January.

I hadn't been able to work full time for several years prior to applying and I had an an extensive , documented. medical history.

My doctor had been telling me for awhile that I needed to go on disability or I'll die but I kept trying until I finally told my wife I couldn't do it anymore.

The letter I got from the SSA said I had been eligible for 100% disability 3 years before I had applied but the law only allowed back pay in benefits for 12 months from the time I applied .

James48

(4,444 posts)
11. Very true.
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 06:48 PM
Dec 2022

My son at age 22 tried to file for SSI disability. He’s got major mental health issues and can’t hold down a job. Best he has ever been able to last at a job is about six weeks. Seriously heard voices, was diagnosed as having Schizoaffective Disorder.

He was denied.

And at his appeal hearing, the Judge asked for a list of jobs they thought he could do.

The “labor expert” consulted the magic book, and told the judge he could cut up chickens in a poultry processing center.

Keep in mind that my kid couldn’t hold a knife, let alone properly cut a chicken, as he abhors seeing blood.

My kid is 27 now and living at home, unemployable, and without any other support except my wife and me. It drives us crazy.

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