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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan anyone please reiterate what the legal basis is for
public disclosure of Trump's personal tax returns (in the absence of criminal charges). I'm not clear on that and is it not a rather unusual or unprecedented action?
secondwind
(16,903 posts)It's hard to tell... he's been lying for decades.
Mister Ed
(5,945 posts)...is that Trump struck a deal with the IRS in each of those tax years, and that under those circumstances one's tax return becomes public information.
Other DU'er s with legal expertise may be able to tell us whether my recollection is correct.
FeelingBlue
(683 posts)A requirement of all US presidents to present tax returns?
That would require a constitutional amendment.
Claustrum
(4,846 posts)since Nixon. But there is no "requirement" for it.
iemanja
(53,093 posts)but I don't believe there is any requirement.
MiniMe
(21,722 posts)return. I think the release started either with Nixon or Ford. Since then, every President has released their returns...until 2016
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It's part of their oversight function. But for some reason, the request from Congress to the IRS Commissioner for the former guy's returns got tangled up with the former guy thinking his returns weren't subject to the law. It went all the way up to the Supreme Court to rule that the statute meant what its plain language said:
Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary [of the Treasury] shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.
Disaffected
(4,572 posts)that legislation does not facilitate public disclosure unless the taxpayer consents (and I doubt Trump did that)??
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The article I linked to in my post has a much fuller treatment of the tax code and the history that caused Congress to enact those laws. Ordinarily, public disclosure does require the consent of the taxpayer, but if the committee determines that there are compelling circumstances, the taxpayer's consent is not required:
Disaffected
(4,572 posts)Attilatheblond
(2,239 posts)Wondering if TFG might even have actual grounds for a lawsuit about this stunt.
Yes, CONGRESS/Committees are entitled to see anybody's tax filings. That's the law and Mnuchin & IRS Director broke that law by not turning over the returns. They should be charged and tried for that crime.
But disclosing someone's tax returns to the public? Holy cow, that's such a bad idea/precedent. Thinking it's gonna get very difficult for any public official to get a tax accountant now. Who would want to be in a position of being in the middle of the coming GOP vendetta 'investigations' if tax filings can be made public?
W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)And why are you providing cover for Republicans? When has tradition or precedent ever stopped them from doing shitty things? You think they need an excuse to do shitty things?
Disaffected
(4,572 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)I get tired of people making excuses for shitty Republican behavior.
Democrats have treated Republicans with kid gloves for the most part and it hasn't stopped them, not once, from being the assholes we know them to be.
Spoiler alert: they will continue to be assholes, regardless of whether or not these tax returns were released.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)to fulfill his promise to the American people to be the most transparent POTUS and to release them post audit.
wnylib
(21,724 posts)It's good to see the truth come out against all the lies, but I don't know what the public release is based on.
Walleye
(31,117 posts)I think we established that like 50 years ago
Claustrum
(4,846 posts)But that's not a legal basis.
Eugene
(61,974 posts)There is a public interest in where a president's money comes from and where he owes money.
In the case of deception, disclosure is the best antidote.
Kennah
(14,349 posts)claudette
(3,617 posts)have their tax returns made public when they are in office