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applegrove

(118,980 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 03:52 PM Feb 2023

DeSantis not hitting it off with blue collar Republicans. Yippee!

Biden’s Standing Improves While Trump Slumps

February 22, 2023 at 11:02 am EST By Taegan Goddard 71 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/02/22/bidens-standing-improves-while-trump-slumps/

"SNIP........

President Biden is seeing his highest approval ratings in almost a year, while former President Donald Trump, who is hoping to take the job back, is getting his worst scores among potential Republican voters in years, according to the latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.

........SNIP"

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DeSantis not hitting it off with blue collar Republicans. Yippee! (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2023 OP
Probably the gogo boots. 2naSalit Feb 2023 #1
Just the Gestapo crowd. Cha Feb 2023 #2
Gespacho crowd AZLD4Candidate Feb 2023 #15
DeSantis comes across Casady1 Feb 2023 #3
graphs Celerity Feb 2023 #4
Thanks. applegrove Feb 2023 #6
yw Celerity Feb 2023 #9
and on the GOP side ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #10
Perhaps some Republican blue-collar workers...... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2023 #5
That's why MTG is talking divorce. To make blue collar Trump voters applegrove Feb 2023 #7
Even some Congressional Republicans are calling MTG out on this "divorce" thingy. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2023 #8
So, his whiny voiced, no charisma having ass is having a tough time connecting? Who would've guessed Carlitos Brigante Feb 2023 #11
He's a junior high vice principal with a weed up his ass - on a good day. hatrack Feb 2023 #18
Question is, how will DeSantis play OUTSIDE of Florida? DinahMoeHum Feb 2023 #12
Most of the country doesn't follow politics the way we do Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #17
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #13
Corporations have been hiring asshole bosses to up efficiency and applegrove Feb 2023 #14
And this is why I don't want Trump Tickle Feb 2023 #16
The less educated , rural Republicans favor Trump Kaleva Feb 2023 #19

ZonkerHarris

(24,325 posts)
10. and on the GOP side
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 04:39 PM
Feb 2023

Trump: 68% favorable, 25% unfavorable (+43) with just 7% unsure. He does best with white evangelical Christians, whites without degrees, those who live in small towns or rural areas, and lower-income voters.

DeSantis: 66%/11% (+55) with almost a quarter unsure (23%). So DeSantis has some convincing to do. Depending on how he makes the sale, if he runs, he may have some room to grow. He is best liked by college grads, those who make more than $50,000 a year, people who live in big cities or the suburbs, and Republican-leaning independents. DeSantis is significantly better liked with those Republican leaners with a 63%/11% favorability rating (+52) as compared to Trump's 57%/33% (+24).

Haley: 41%/12% (+23) with almost half (46%) unsure. The former South Carolina governor and ambassador to the United Nations under Trump got into the race officially last week but still has a lot to prove to these voters.

Pence: 51%/30% (+21) with 19% unsure. Pence's base is supposed to be with white evangelical Christians. It's a major reason for why Trump put him on the ticket in 2016. But Pence is far less liked by the group than either Trump or DeSantis.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,949 posts)
5. Perhaps some Republican blue-collar workers......
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 04:06 PM
Feb 2023

are seeing manufacturing jobs coming back, infrastructure projects taking place, a bit more money in their pockets, better wages, capping Insulin at $35 a month for those on Medicare, some Student Federal Loan forgiveness, etc. Results that affect people no matter where they are politically.

What are the Republicans offering in return? NOTHING, NADA, a BIG FAT GOOSE EGG!

THAT is why Jo Biden is making headway with these voters. He cares.

applegrove

(118,980 posts)
7. That's why MTG is talking divorce. To make blue collar Trump voters
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 04:09 PM
Feb 2023

feel like they will be isolated if they go back to Democrats they left in the last 43 years.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,949 posts)
8. Even some Congressional Republicans are calling MTG out on this "divorce" thingy.
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 04:12 PM
Feb 2023

Because there are both House and Senate Republicans who did the right thing and voted for these things to the displeasure of their caucus leaders.

DinahMoeHum

(21,847 posts)
12. Question is, how will DeSantis play OUTSIDE of Florida?
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 04:48 PM
Feb 2023

Former GOP strategist Rick Wilson (a 5th generation Floridian) has said repeatedly that

1) DeSantis has a glass jaw and will be torn apart by Trump and anytime he goes outside the
state of Florida.
2) DeSantis does not debate well - he barely held his own in his debate with Charlie Crist last
year.
3) Unlike Biden, DeSantis is just not a people person.

Buckeyeblue

(5,506 posts)
17. Most of the country doesn't follow politics the way we do
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 06:48 AM
Feb 2023

I think he runs the risk of not being able to define himself. I also don't think he has a presidential personality. He's not charismatic. He seems to have a temper when really challenged. He's going to have a lot to defend, with his bussing of immigrants, his anti-gay rhetoric and laws, book banning.

applegrove

(118,980 posts)
14. Corporations have been hiring asshole bosses to up efficiency and
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 05:13 AM
Feb 2023

reduce confidence in employees so they'll not get 'uppity' and form a union. They kiss up and kick down to drive people for little pay all so CEOs make an extra few million in bonuses.I think DeSantis may just remind people off the bad boss they worked under.

Tickle

(2,629 posts)
16. And this is why I don't want Trump
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 06:38 AM
Feb 2023

to get indicted. Once he is removed fighting between him and DeSantis stops. He'll probably tell his peeps to vote DeSantis so he can get pardoned.

Indict Trump next year after the primary's
Not a popular stance but one I feel will make us a shoe in and in control of all the houses.

Kaleva

(36,421 posts)
19. The less educated , rural Republicans favor Trump
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 09:03 AM
Feb 2023

While DeSantis is doing well with the more educated and urban Republicans

"DeSantis, at this point, is at least a co-front-runner for the nomination. His support skews more toward Republicans with college degrees, who make more money and live in cities and suburbs, as opposed to Trump's more blue-collar, rural appeal. "

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/22/1158538798/poll-bidens-standing-improves-while-trump-slumps-with-republican-voters

This may be bad news for TFG because in the 2020 election in MI, 75% of the vote TFG got came from the more affluent urban or mostly urban counties

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