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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden wasn't VP when Hunter sent the WhatsApp message. 😳Wow!😳
Last night was the first time Id seen this message even though Id heard about it (its usually said to be messageS) for a while. My wifes first comment was Does anyone consider that he could have been lying?
We were watching CNN and I dont remember them mentioning the date.
I read this from Media Matters (below), the message was sent July 30, 2017. Joe was in his 6th month of what everyone thought would be his retirement.
Totally blew me away. Media Matters details the rightwing medias coverage of this story and how even they let the date slip in from time to time.
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-business/desperate-accusation-over-hunter-biden-text-right-wing-media-falsely-claim-joe-biden
However, The New York Times reports that one of the whistleblowers, IRS agent Gary Shapley, also told Congress that there was evidence some of Hunter Bidens claims of his fathers support in his business dealings were really wishful thinking. Shapley quoted Hunter Biden business associate Rob Walker as having told investigators: I certainly never was thinking at any time the V.P. was a part of anything we were doing. CNN also reported that the second, unnamed whistleblower spoke with Congress, saying prosecutors questioned whether they could be sure Hunter Biden was telling the truth that his father was actually in the room in the messages.
Later in the program however, Varney delivered a monologue in which he repeated the false claim. I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father that was then-Vice President Joe Biden, Varney declared. We don't know if Hunter was actually sitting next to his father, but that was clearly a threat clearly using the office of vice president to intimidate.
Of course, this message could not have been using the office of vice president to intimidate, because that office was held at the time by then-Vice President Mike Pence.
mahina
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Not mine but it is my point. Needs to be on bumper stickers for years.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,861 posts)uponit7771
(90,382 posts)Turbineguy
(37,475 posts)underpants
(183,259 posts)That totally blows the whole thing out of the water.
Lovie777
(12,504 posts)supported by shithole's cult.
Caliman73
(11,764 posts)Especially if that language or those institutions help to protect non-wealthy, non-powerful people.
A Whistleblower is a special class designation given to people who come forward to testify against corrupt or illegal practices. The secretary who witnesses a corrupt business deal, who at great personal risk to their career and safety testifies against the CEO of the major corporation. Daniel Ellsberg was a whistleblower. Anita Hill was a whistleblower.
For conservatives, they use the power of the word, but for their own nefarious purposes. They called Juanita Broderick a whistleblower, when it turns out she was either used, or was herself a political operative that was trying to take down Bill Clinton. These "whistleblowers" that they claim, have PROOF that Joe Biden personally palmed the billion dollar checks to bribe him, have not produced any evidence, nor themselves, where Anita Hill testified before Congress about how Clarence Thomas should not be a Supreme Court Justice. She was right!
Conservatives recently corrupted the Censure in the House of Representatives. Their farce with Adam Schiff moved the Censure from being a serious tool, used only for the most egregious situations, to a partisan hack tool to create a spectacle for right wing media.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)the pasture is empty when the village idiots of the mass media come running to see
nothing?
Republicans have learned to play on the evidence free battlefields of Twitter rather well
lack of ethics is helpful.
Has no one ever heard of this thing called Evidence? Hearsay
is not evidence
journalists need to take some law courses before stenographic knee jerk recording of the worthless lies.
LakeArenal
(28,938 posts)They find a speck of some truth and exploit it and warp it so it looks like truth but a bit of research shows its not. Then they double down until the lie becomes truth.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)the pasture is empty when the village idiots of the mass media come running to see
nothing?
Doesnt matter how many times the Republican boys cry wolf, the village idiots still come running on the chance there is a wolf. Artificial stupidity?
Republicans have learned to play on the evidence free battlefields of Twitter rather well
lack of ethics is helpful.
Has no one ever heard of this thing called Evidence? Hearsay
is not evidence
journalists need to take some law courses before stenographic knee jerk recording of the worthless lies.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)is that Hunter was lying about sitting next to his dad at the time of the message.
underpants
(183,259 posts)So, Hunter Biden is the worst person on earth were being told BUT in this instance he was telling the truth?!??
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I have no idea where this post is from. I mean, people can watch a video of the defendant telling his violent mob that he will march with them down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol on January 6, and all the budding Inspector Clouseaus in the media and on the Republican payroll can't quite figure out what that means. But a purported post on WhatsApp, and they know for a fact where it came from and who authored it.
JohnSJ
(92,616 posts)exboyfil
(17,871 posts)Nor did he have a position with either of Biden's VP or Presidential campaigns.
The same can't be said for Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr., or Eric Trump.
2naSalit
(87,209 posts)How much did ghouliani pay the informant?
Johonny
(21,044 posts)and not a single Republican gave a crap?
JohnSJ
(92,616 posts)Joe Biden wasnt even involved
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Hitler lovers saturate the airwaves of America and its not all right has the entire nation forgotten about the lead up WW2, or has the corporate mass media triumphed in creating mass amnesia? Again.
Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)The one using a photo of Hunter from 2022 despite supposedly being from 2017?
MichMan
(12,031 posts)President Biden has consistently said he has never spoken with Hunter about any of his business dealings. Not once ever; period.
Anyone saying otherwise is a blatant liar.