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(81,724 posts)PREACH!!!
And the moral of that story IS: if THATS where you stand, then you are NOT pro-life.
PREACH IT!!!
LakeArenal
(28,938 posts)You are not pro life and you dont care about sustaining life.
AllyCat
(16,306 posts)ShazzieB
(16,772 posts)Protecting life in the womb = controlling women and their choices. Easy peasy! Them wimmins is out of control anyways and needs to be reeled back in!
Protecting life anywhere else would affect the choices of men, as well as women, an obvious no-no!
treestar
(82,383 posts)good description of the post born!
brer cat
(24,738 posts)Maraya1969
(22,549 posts)unblock
(52,626 posts)There's no such thing as a risk-free pregnancy, and the pregnancy slavers think the woman should have suffer that risk against her will.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)That was pretty fucking CRYSTAL.
Swede
(33,386 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,564 posts)barbtries
(28,840 posts)see my post below!
barbtries
(28,840 posts)though she can't give an inch. not an inch. sigh
nonetheless he made his point.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Made her look like a complete fool. Can I get an AMEN! I chocked on my coffee when she tried to claim republicans support community health programs and local hospitals.
barbtries
(28,840 posts)she had no argument. she sounded really lame. i just wonder at how she apparently cannot see that for herself.
ShazzieB
(16,772 posts)My reaction to this was mixed, because I hate it when people are constantly interrupting and shouting over each other. That's a major turnoff for me, regardless of the content, who's right/wrong, etc. There were some excellent points made here, but there were also times when I just wanted ALL of them to shut up for a hot minute, take a deep breath, and then take turns talking!
I agree with every word Roland said (what I could hear of it, lol), and I agree that the anti-choice lady was laughably uninformed about a lot of things, but I think he could have made his case even more powerfully by letting her state her case without interrupting constantly, and then taking her points down one by one, complete with factual examples.
I enjoy spirited discussions, but I'm not a fan of screaming matches, which is what a lot of this seemed like to me.
LakeArenal
(28,938 posts)In movies, rock and roll and especially debates.
ShazzieB
(16,772 posts)Response to ShazzieB (Reply #43)
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Skittles
(153,504 posts)he essentially shut down her speaking over him
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)She sat there and took the beating she knew was coming.
They know they are not pro life.
Skittles
(153,504 posts)but sometimes when one side is just so freaking hypocritical and WON'T shut up, it is necessary- and hoo boy did he NAIL it
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)However she had no content. The community health centers were started by Obama. Yet that was her only point
markie
(22,759 posts)that's how it's done...
Ohio Joe
(21,785 posts)lark
(23,258 posts)If you are truly pro-life, you are pro-life from womb to tomb -
This is a truth bomb.
wnylib
(21,947 posts)I want to see him speaking to Congress. He should be IN Congress. Powerful speaker.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)In It to Win It
(8,359 posts)Hekate
(91,289 posts)And let us all say, Amen
czarjak
(11,410 posts)barbtries
(28,840 posts)I been screaming this for years but he put it so succinctly, so entirely, I need to share this if I can get it on a different platform. Does anyone know his name???
underpants
(183,259 posts)barbtries
(28,840 posts)i subscribed to his youtube and shared the full video of this interaction. i love him
makes appearances on MSNBC from time to time.
barbtries
(28,840 posts)only videos i find here and there. I should have known who he is but anyhow I do now.
okaawhatever
(9,479 posts)barbtries
(28,840 posts)i even said it to him in the comments on the youtube. lol
cksmithy
(231 posts)to everything he said. Back in the day, before abortion rights were legal, those opposed to abortion were for the death penalty. The pro-lifers have never been for life for everyone, they just want control. I am a woman in my 70's. I remember how it was and I don't like how it is now (in many states).
SharonAnn
(13,785 posts)Many women's lives were badly damaged. Some women died. others suffered permanent injuries.
raging moderate
(4,331 posts)I remember women dying or having permanent injuries. I also remember the long, long debates at the Supreme Court, with extremely detailed information presented by many very knowledgeable people in sworn testimony, over long months, and Supreme Court justices obviously doing a lot of reading on the subject and asking many questions of those giving the testimony, before making their decision.
liberalla
(9,302 posts)Hugin
(33,284 posts)Several times over the last year.
Torchlight
(3,539 posts)Roc2020
(1,620 posts)Pure GOP Hypocrisy. Well said Roland.
niyad
(114,331 posts)and pro-clmate change solutions. Otherwise, you are a WOMAN-HATING, CHRISTOFASCIST, THEOCRATIC, GESTATIONAL SLAVER, FUCKING HYPOCRITE.
Rhiannon12866
(207,868 posts)He said it all!
patphil
(6,290 posts)She's already living, and the fetus in the womb is merely potential life.
I don't see life as beginning until the child is born, and a soul is received with the child's first unaided breath.
That's life. Before that point it's just existence.
And then, these so-called pro-lifers do nothing to help mom and her newborn child. They're on their own from that point forward.
Their position on this is truly despicable.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,312 posts)onecaliberal
(33,097 posts)usonian
(10,126 posts)When it isn't?
Why do we accept their terminology? Why do we let them define the discourse?
It's not pro-life. It's GOVERNMENT CONTROL of personal life.
THEOCRACY, ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION DENYING OTHERS.
Pardon the all-caps.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)So when are republicans going to release their healthcare plan for America? Still waiting. We have been waiting for decades! Republicans are not pro life!
She had one point that she repeated over and over. Community health centers are not the solution to systemic racism and healthcare in America.
Pa got told their entire school funding system is unconstitutional. Republicans in the Pa Senate are still blocking any fix. There are 214 schools in the Philly school system there are only ***7 libraries in the Philly school system.*** That folks is the face of systemic racism. Republicans do not care. Republicans want to destroy public education and do not care about healthcare for the poor.
DFW
(54,643 posts)Yeah, he can get a little blustery at times, but when it's a useless "talk over them until you win" Republican, that is the ONLY thing that works, and Roland Martin is SO good at not losing a breath while staying coherent, the radical right doesn't get away with their crap with him.
He went out partying with our two daughters one night at New Year's, MANY years ago. Our girls were already a little tipsy, but it was a larger group, and Roland was on his best behavior. Where DOES the time go?
Emile
(23,478 posts)Oppaloopa
(867 posts)wendyb-NC
(3,368 posts)Thank you, Roland Martin.