New York Judge Puts Gag Order on Trump

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New York Judge Puts Gag Order on Trump

October 3, 2023 at 3:16 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 4 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/10/03/new-york-judge-puts-gag-order-on-trump/

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“The New York judge presiding over Donald Trump’s civil fraud trial on Tuesday issued a gag order after the former president attacked his clerk by name and shared her image on social media,” The Messenger reports.

Said Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron: “Personal attacks on members on my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate, and I won’t tolerate it.”

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[MontanaMama]

1. See how easy that was?

Keep it up.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

10. When the defendant posts about court staff live as court is proceeding...red line crossed!

Try it again Mr. Defendant about to lose all business licenses and possessions in NY!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

15. Chances are he'll violate it by the end of the day.

Then what?

[Stardust Mirror]

17. my thought exactly

n/t

[Escurumbele]

30. Next step should be either a $$ fine, and jail next if he does it again.

All bets are that he will do it again, the SOB cannot keep his mouth shut and his lawyers are a bunch of wimps who are there only to hope they get paid the big bucks and to obey his orders. Talk about clown shows from republicans.

[Maraya1969]

51. It needs to be a huge fine or it won't matter at all to that grifter. He'll just get his ditto

heads to come up with the money because "I am being treated so unfairly. I am being treated worse than any other criminal that ever went through our court process and I am innocent"

[Comfortably_Numb]

2. Finally!! For fuck's sake a judge that sees the orange turd for who he actually is, and the

Danger that Orange Foolius represents to court personnel.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

11. When the evidence is clear, judges see and act...Evidence is the key to any action...not needed

by the MAGA crowd ofc.

[Torchlight]

19. Evidence, huh?

You then believe evidence is a critical element when making assertions, yes?

[Martin68]

27. None of the indictments has proceeded this far. Expect the same to happen in other venues unless

Trump shuts the fuck up.

[Fullduplexxx]

3. But because of the cowardice of the previous judges this clerk is now at the mercy of trump's jackal

[Blue Owl]

4. Double Down, Diarrhea Donny

C'mon you big fat fuck, show that judge who's the REAL boss....

[struggle4progress]

5. +!

[Cyrano]

6. We're going to need a bigger ball of tape.

[MLAA]

31. Donald Duck Tape!

[erronis]

35. Backed with cyanoacrylate (the stuff in super glue)

Once it is placed over its orifices, it won't come off. Take cover - the explosion will be horrible.

[patricia92243]

7. What happens when he breaks the gag order. A fine of a few hundred $ is not going

to shut him up.

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. What gag order?

The only info in the report is a quote from the judge admonishing Trump.

I’ll believe there’s an actual gag order when I see the court transcript.

[Ocelot II]

9. It's a gag order. From the linked article:

“Personal attacks on members on my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate, and I won't tolerate it [in my courtroom],” said New York State Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron.

He added later to "consider this a gag order for all parties from posting about any members of my staff."

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. Trump will parse every word to test the judge.

No posting? OK, how about an official press release that others can retweet?

You know he’s going to Fuck Around, the question is, will he then Find Out?

[Ocelot II]

25. Of course. He'll have his minions do his dirty work, as usual.

[orangecrush]

14. Looks good on him

[usonian]

16. He needs a shock collar.

Controlled by kids with handheld game consoles.


Wow! This is FUN!

[Ligyron]

18. If any of the people Trump posts info about is harmed, he needs to be charged.

One of them is assaulted? Then charge Trump with assault, if one is murdered (Zeus forbid) charge and convict him of murder. A judge, along with Trump's own lawyers you'd think, needs to make that very clear to him.

The sooner this threat to democracy is taken off the streets, and you'd think that would have happened already like it would have for any other citizen issuing multiple threats to the judiciary, then the safer all Americans will be.

[Duppers]

21. +100

[vlyons]

20. The judge's own clerk, no less

How stupid is that? Too bad, he was held in contempt and locked up for a few days.

[bif]

22. Good luck getting that piece of human garbage to keep his yap shut.

[IcyPeas]

23. Imagine what he'd do with a jury? He would have is goons tracking them down.

This is who he is. A deranged dangerous wannabe mobster.

[wnylib]

24. Trump loves to talk about how things "used to be done," like

executing people for treason.

Somebody might remind him of another thing that used to be done, like cutting out the tongue of people who continually lied, threatened others, and wouldn't shut up.

[bdamomma]

38. exactly

I read tRumps's father told him to be a "king" or a "killer". Now that's fucked up.

[ChazInAz]

53. I wonder...

Do you think TFG even knows about the Rosenbergs?

[Irish_Dem]

26. A judge with courage doing his job.

Trying to keep his people safe.

[EndlessWire]

29. This is admirable.

I am totally in favor. However, what about his own safety? I think, if he's not going to put him in jail this time, he should just go straight to, "Do it again and I'll put you in jail."

Trump is dangerous because he can inspire nut jobs to violence. Putting him in pretrial detention is justified. I don't care about civil vs. criminal issues. Contempt of court is contempt of court. At least put him there until he voices some compliance language.

The judges are bending over backwards to avoid any appearance of prejudgment. What about the People's rights? Judge Chutkan should have him taken into custody on the 16th, and then let his lawyers try to get him out.

Did he buy the gun, or didn't he? There is enough time to investigate that.

You know, his campaign comment about being able to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue is true. Nothing of consequence is happening to him over these threats. He needs a taste of jail life to inspire him to flee the country.

[Irish_Dem]

42. The judges are afraid of Trump and lazy.

They don't want to try and figure out how to do their jobs when it is difficult.
They don't seem to care if the jury, prosecutors, court staff are in severe danger.

[ShazzieB]

43. Do you want him to flee the country?

He needs a taste of jail life to inspire him to flee the country.

Apologies if I'm misinterpreting, but I took this to imply that you might see Trump leaving the U.S. as a desirable thing. I don't see it that way. I want him here to stand trial on all of the indictments he's facing.

He's committed a large number of very serious crimes, including trying to overturn the U.S. government and destroy our democracy (which, flawed though it may be, is still precious and worthy of preservation). He needs to answer for all of that, not excape justice and scamper merrily away. This man has gotten away with far too much for far too long, and we are finally on the edge of seeing him face the consequences.When that happens, it's going to be glorious, and I don't want anything to get in the way of it!

[EndlessWire]

44. Yes, I do.

It would be the best thing for the country. As it is, unless he drops dead, we are in for years and years of Trump this and Trump that. I am sick to death of Trump, GOP, and all the rat weasels that revealed themselves.

I don't think that a life on the run is all that pleasant.

If he does get sent to jail, nothing less than SuperMax will be good enough. I'd rather see him constantly dodging authorities and having to move around than to see him on home arrest or some piddling country club jail, because he is an ex president. Our country would be a lot safer without him here. If he gets sentenced to home confinement, it won't be enough to dissuade him from his power ploys with the press.

He's not done with that Judge. He still thinks that he can win by twisting the plot. So, yeah, I'd like him to flee the country and get convicted of everything in absentia.

[ShazzieB]

45. I hear you.

I still have a different opinion, but I understand how you feel.

[EndlessWire]

47. It works either way for me

as long as he's punished.

I guess if he hadn't cheated his way to the top, he wouldn't have as much, but he could have lived a successful life. He could have been that beloved icon. Instead, he has thrown the rest of his and his adult kids lives away. I don't think he's capable of anything else. If he wanted to change, I don't even know how he would start.

I don't long for money, but if I had money like that, I would use it for food, clothing and shelter for others. And toys for kids. Throw some into medical research, and then go play! Get what you need or want, but don't be such an evil dick. People make mistakes, but you couldn't say that someone like Hitler just made a mistake. Trump has shown that he would like to be a dictator. We have to keep him from getting back into government. So, if he won't flee, then jail.


I also hear what you say. We both agree that he deserves punishment.

[barbtries]

28. LOCK HIM UP

fucking do it. he's horrible!

[bdamomma]

39. Yes

Lock him up, before people get killed, not by him, but by his minions. He's a fucking deranged cult CRIMINAL leader.

[Historic NY]

32. Well he fucked around and he found out....

no more of those impromptu bullshit sessions in the courthouse.

[4lbs]

33. This should also help Jack Smith's cases in court.

Jack Smith has already requested a gag order from Judge Chutkan.

It will be decided on Oct 16.

They can cite his actions in the NY civil court case as further evidence of what he will do.

I expect Judge Chutkan to respond with a gag order of her own. It might even happen sooner than Oct 16 because of these actions accelerating possible responses.

I'm not sure what defense Dumpster's lawyers can offer now in their claims because he has already shown an aptitude to post whatever he wants and threaten whomever he wants.

This gag order will establish a lot of legal precedent in federal court.

[EndlessWire]

48. We could run a poll on how many gag orders he ends up with.

I say 4. Could be more. "Four or more." If I were Judge Chutkan, I'd drop an order to show cause on him on the 16th, because of the Glock, but thankfully, I'm not her, and she gets to do the heavy lifting for me! I'd give him one week to respond.

[4lbs]

50. I wouldn't be surprised if DA Fani Willis also applies for one in her Georgia case.

The same legal precedent could be cited there.

All this NY evidence of his postings and threats could apply there. Add in anything Jack Smith gets as a bonus, if he gets one before DA Fani Willis applies for one, should she do so.

[SoFlaBro]

34. Someone had to shut that stupid fucking Orange Turd the fuck up for once.

fs

[twodogsbarking]

36. Are there Vegas odds, for when he breaks the order?

[bdamomma]

37. Gag him

that's the first step, maybe his head will blow up!!!

[Martin Eden]

40. When he violates the gag order:

Arrest him.
Handcuff him.

And when he's put in the back seat of the squad car

Do NOT protect his head from getting bashed on the way in.

[calimary]

41. What the hell took so long???

I'd be surprised if this gag order held. How long do you think it'll take for trump to violate this rule, too? After all, we're dealing with the perfect living portrait of an unruly 5-year-old.

[Recycle_Guru]

49. it is narrow enough he may squeak by

only forbids posts, public comments, etc about the judge's staff

[Alexander Of Assyria]

52. Judges adhere to evidence and precedent and the rule of law. The experts know the law

as a surgeon knows a body. Education….experience…skill…knowledge…a lot of each.

The not fast enough and not good enough crowd would criticize a a brain surgery also, tossing peanuts from the gallery?!

Same thing.

[ZonkerHarris]

46. partial gag