Dear women: if you're voting to inflict this on other women,

[onecaliberal]

I hope karma is swift. I don’t know how you sleep at night. We are fed up with people who aren’t capable of pregnancy controlling our lives. Why are you helping them? And don’t even give me your pathetic lie about pro life, you demonstrate with stark clarity your disdain for life with your votes.


Texas Supreme Court stays a ruling allowing a woman to get an abortion.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4351287-texas-supreme-court-pauses-ruling-allowing-pregnant-woman-abortion/

[dutch777]

1. I get men voting Republican, but I don't get why so many women do. On so many issues, not just abortion.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

9. Republican womwn DO NOT GIVE A SHIT

About female autonomy.
About equal pay for equal work.
About voting rights.
About the ability to make one's own decisions matter how personal.
About owning property.
About job and educational opportunities.
About their daughters and Granddaughters futures, etc.

and so much more. Their distain for the Rule of Law and the rights granted under the US Constitution are of no concern to them. They have their men to take care of that for them.

[Iris]

48. Exactly. They vote for what they believe helps their husbands make money

And really when I say "they" I mean white women.

[DENVERPOPS]

77. A common reply from Republican Women I know:

My Husband handles the money and politics, I handle the household and kids.

My Husband tells me who to vote for.........................

No shit, the same line from all of them, as if all their husbands have dictated their role in society........

[peppertree]

82. And that's 'cause you're in Colorado

In Mi'ssippi, where I grew up, Republican women were usually worse than the men!

They seemed to hate other women - and not just women of color (whom they mostly just despise).

It was always "she seems to think she can get everything paid for" or "she has way more house than she can afford - or should" or "you know what she was doing, while her husband was sick/away" etc.

Usually all presumptions - and often followed by little phone calls that would lead to her (or her husband or boyfriend) losing their jobs, and "no one knows why."

Sometimes even the children of said woman were targeted, with "child welfare" calls.

(which of course was the last thing they were worried about)

[haele]

94. Bored, frustrated princesses who didn't get the bougie life they expected.

Even when I was growing up in the 60's and 70's, a lot of girls didn't really expect to be working full time once they got married, their husbands would take care of them. There were many who went to college to either get a better provider or get into a career path where they can meet better providers.
That was what was expected, in the RomComs, the guy was always well off. And they all lived Happily Ever After.
Except for being stuck at home taking care of the kids and dealing with their simplistic, annoying immediate attention seeking, careening temperaments and blinkered world views. Oh, and Mom is responsible for keeping everything around them clean, neat, and on time while training them to be human beings.

Except for being ready to turn on the charm, grace, and dignity going to an office function with little notice, or having to take a back seat to his ambitions while the Wife puts hers on hold until he gets his promotion, or the new project, or whatever.

Except, they find out that being a real traditional wife is hard, thankless work, and if you married the wrong guy, you just have to suck it up, agree with him to stay married, and deal with your frustrations, anger, and humiliation in private, because if you show it in public - you lose everything.

It doesn't seem to have changed much in the past 60 years.

Haele

[BOSSHOG]

90. Never buy a woman a watch

There’s a clock on the stove. Money saver for republicans.

[Rebl2]

93. Oh good lord

I can’t believe some republican women are that dumb. The few republican women I know aren’t that way.

[SouthernDem4ever]

23. I don't get why men vote repuglican

But I understand the reasoning behind your statement. Unfortunately none of the reasons are good.

[dchill]

27. People - men and women both - vote Republican...

... because they're basically mean and selfish. And very afraid.

[Hope22]

24. I don't get it!

If they have someone in their life that they care about ….mother, wife, friend, sister, sister in law, child, step child, neighbor, minister, insurance agent, bagger at the market, why in the hell would they vote against her. People who can get pregnant are crushed every day because of the sick and twisted Republican policy in this country. The lack of equal rights is deplorable! I have no respect for anyone who can turn a blind eye. They can call themselves what ever they want but voting to support the ideology is unforgivable! I am past forgiving blind, selfish, stupidity!

[onecaliberal]

36. Same. It's unforgivable.

[Tree Lady]

45. Most of it is religion

and they are thoroughly convinced that abortion is murder. Why those that believe that won't change. Same with the other issues of us not having rights.

And most the leaders just go along for the votes and don't believe, all these men who force women to carry babies if it happened to their wives or daughters would jump on the first plane to somewhere it could be done in secret.

The republicans grabbed it as a issue to get the evangelical christians many years ago knowing the conservative judges would give them other things they wanted also with guns, taxes, privatization etc

[ancianita]

66. But the christian bible says nothing about abortion as murder. It never once uses the word abortion.

There is no biblical basis for christians being anti-abortion. Pharisaic christianity is just anti-woman, which is anti-Jesus. In the Christian Bible Jesus always saw women as spiritual equals and treated them as such.

[Tree Lady]

70. Of course we know that

Have you been to any of those churches? Cults that twist the meaning of bible verses to fit anything they believe.

[ancianita]

75. Cool. Who's "we"? Some posts here don't seem to.

No, I haven't been to any of those churches. Have you or anyone else here been to them?

I've attended both Catholic (up to age 20) and Protestant churches (age 40-50) and have never seen the bible perversely interpreted, nor heard anti-abortion preached or taught. The weirdest thing I've seen are Google Image photos of AR-15 blessings done in a couple of churches. No Jesus based community would do any of that.

For the last 25 years I've not attended any churches, deciding that churches confound spirit and faith, rather than strengthen them.
To me, churches seem to be used by people who need validation of their faith, and/or constantly have to prove their faith by attending them.

[Tree Lady]

89. I guess I was saying "we" as most of us

know better.

And yes for years in my early 20's I went to that type of church and was very pro life so I know how they think. I am 67 and it's been since my mid 20's that I went to anything like that. What changed me was someone close to me I loved had an abortion and I just couldn't think of her as a murderer, and once I started to open my mind I got doubts, quit church, went back to being a dem..I only voted republican for 4 yrs being told by the church to vote that way.

There is hope for people to change but its not easy.

The good about it is when I go door to door over the years for democrats I know how the other side thinks and why and it helps me to talk to them.

[CrispyQ]

84. I thought they ultimately depended on "Thou shall not kill"

even as they clutch their semi-automatic weapon in one hand with a McDonald's burger in the other.

Pregnancy tissue at six weeks.

Anyone who thinks this has more rights than any living, breathing entity on the planet has their head up their ass.

[ancianita]

98. A simple law re another fully formed human life, sure. And simply applied as

male run patriarchal religions decide it should be. The way they decided tended to be forgotten, though, as centuries of male violence caused female trauma, imprinted while covered over by amnesia as survival defense, then passed on as genetic memory. Long term trauma, long term forgetting.
In spite of science's findings, male run religion dominators decided that tissue is still some sacred soul, that sperm is more sacred than whoever males put it in -- decisions that likely appeared as an extension of males' presumed superior spiritual judgment under a male god.
Today, whoever can abort is whoever patriarchal enforcers decide can abort, right back to where the political/legal war started in the 60's.
Today's male spiritual take on abortion reminds me of the pope who still officially held that the sun revolves around earth for 400 years past when science mapped the opposite.


Yep, heads up their asses for centuries.

[Sky Jewels]

78. I think for a good chunk of the anti-abortion people, especially the men, it is not about murder.

For example, the same men who call themselves "pro life" don't give a crap when children get murdered in classroom mass shootings.

They want abortion outlawed because they think women deserve to be controlled and put in their place. They get off on women suffering, because it makes them feel even more powerful and superior.

[Skittles]

91. uh, no

it's got NOTHING to do with being "pro-life" or else they would care about gun carnage and kids living in poverty

[Rebl2]

92. I don't understand

men voting republican when republican politicians want to take away their social security and Medicare benefits when they retire. I don’t understand why men would want their wife’s or girlfriend’s right to control their own bodies.

[ZonkerHarris]

95. Remember the SNL bit called Church Lady? They are all her. Oblivious to their own hypocrisy and no empathy

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. For many white women, white supremacy is a stronger draw than sisterhood.

[AllyCat]

39. This makes me so sad. Yet, it is true.

[Abigail_Adams]

47. You hit the nail on the head.

Repub (white) women expect to be supported and dominated by their men. I remember people like Phyllis Schlafley, who fought so hard against the Equal Rights Amendment. They have a sure moral superiority. In response to a rape exception to antiabortion laws, Phyllis infamously said that virtuous girls don't get raped. That's as ignorant and heartless as many of the male comments like "a woman's body shuts that right down." And odious Greg Abbott saying he was going to get rid of rape in Texas. Yeah, right.

I have to confess I don't understand such women. That's not my background. But I think they're traitors to their sex. They too have had miscarriages, problem pregnancies, and--yes--abortions. How can they be so deaf to the needs of other women, therefore?

[TheKentuckian]

85. Sisterhood isn't a thing anymore than brotherhood

Seldom will you hear a bunch of dudes talking about brotherhood because it isn't much of a thing at all above the personal level.

Same goes for women so it shouldn't be surprising in the least but for whatever reason the mass delusion still sticks around.

If you are in an association with like 4 billion people and all you had to do to be a member is be born anywhere then it isn't an association of any meaning aside from what is projected on to it.

Sorry if that is upsetting in any way for some but that is how I see it.
There is no sisterhood, you don't know those women any more than I know their husbands.

[Captain Zero]

105. Why would a husband let the mother

Of his children die during a third or fourth pregnancy because he didn't want to allow an abortion? Why should a mother of several children be forced to die with a dead fetus inside her? Will that be a comfort to her children that at least she didn't have an abortion? Will the money they get from the Social Security Survivors Program replace their mother?

[TheKentuckian]

106. Hell, if I know? I support choice. I was discussing

the bizarre sisterhood delusion not in any fashion opposing women and their doctors managing their own health care decisions.

If men had to carry babies to term, the population would be a rounding error and choice would have been in the Constitution.

[gay texan]

3. Conservative people in this state are really fucking stupid

gullible beyond belief

[Rebl2]

12. I can think of

A few other states too. MO, KY, ARK,OK, and I could go on and on.

[bsiebs]

17. They are everywhere...

I’m in California… they are all over the place… thankfully we have more dems …. I’m in Los Angeles.. I have a neighbor that put up a “not my president” banner after the 2020 election… happily people in the neighborhood would walk by and laugh, take pictures.. he took it down the same day…. But he’s still a dick..,

[recovering_democrat]

4. Insanity

I am the older generation who remembers the HORRORS before Roe v Wade. I can only cry for this situation. Only thing I can figure is these women are young enough they never heard the horror stories and movies from the history we still remember. Recommend we ask media to dig out those old films used to be occasionally shown on TV. Or are they too scared they lose watchers?

[Irish_Dem]

5. Middle and upper class women know the abortion prohibitions don't apply to them.

They will always have access to an abortion. They can travel to another state for an abortion where it is legal.
Or get their high priced boutique docs to perform a D and C after one of the nurses pees into a cup to prove
the patient is not pregnant.

Well to do men know their girlfriends who get pregnant can always get an abortion.

[RandomNumbers]

8. + 1,000,000,000,000

The wealthy-enough* people who are pulling the strings know the rules won't apply to them when it counts. Meanwhile they get an emotion-laden issue to drive votes and donations and convince their marks that "the other side " is so evil ( "baby murderers!!!" ) and that this issue is so morally important, that this issue takes precedence above all others - even if it means electing a proven grifter** who is already telling us he will throw out the Constitution. What do the string-pullers get from this? Reduced taxes and get-out-of-jail-free cards for abusing the environment and other people; and in fact getting some of those pesky rules (that bother THEM) even removed from the books.

Malevolent genius.


* in the overall scale of things it doesn't take all THAT much money to skirt these laws. You don't have to be Musk or a Koch. But that still leaves a whole lot of people under the boot.

** c'mon, who here didn't already know he was a grifter even in 2015? we've just been seeing more and more evidence ever since.

[Irish_Dem]

68. Same thing they did during Covid.

All the GOP leaders telling people not to wear masks or get vaccinated.
While they all got vaccinated and sent their kids to schools with mask requirements.

These leaders knew their words would kill people, but they didn't care.

They will kill as many Americans as it takes to get what they want.
Total permanent power and unlimited access to US financial assets.

[llmart]

102. The proven grifter...

I'd stake my life that he's paid for more than one abortion in his sorry lifetime. He's also a proven rapist.

[Lonestarblue]

6. Every Democratic candidate needs to be saying that Republicans are not pro life.

Voting for Republicans means laws that enable anyone to have guns and commit mass murders, including schoolchildren. Elected Republicans have blocked pro-life gun safety for decades. They are not pro-life.

Voting for Republicans means that politicians and judges now get to make medical decisions for pregnant women. Those decisions are not pro-life as they give all rights to a fetus, even one that has major anomalies and will die at birth, and none to preserving the life of the woman. Their policies are not pro-life.

Voting for Republicans means sending unwanted children into foster care that too often results in rape, brutality, and even death. That is not pro-life.

Voting for Republicans means voting to support the death penalty, which is most often carried out for black men while white men just get prison. The death penalty is not pro-life.

I’m sure there are other good examples.

[Martin Eden]

26. Voting for Republicans means poisoning the planet upon which all life depends

Voting for toxins which cause birth defects and shorten the lives of millions is NOT pro-life.

Voting to accelerate the transformation of finite resources into multiple forms of pollution including greenhouse gases causing catastrophic climate change is NOT pro-life.

They demonstrate with their votes they care not a whit about babies after they're born or their own children and grandchildren upon whom they will bestow a planet ravaged by the upheavals of climate change and the loss of natural ecosystems which sustain not only human life but all the beautiful flora and fawna which contribute so much to our existence on this life boat we call Earth.

[LoisB]

7. Yep, pro-life so let's risk the life of the mother and the fetus.

Make it make sense.

[RandomNumbers]

10. The fetus might be a boy!

Making it more valuable than a woman just on that alone!

(to SOME people)

One of the most despicable things about the hate-wing obsession with blocking women from reproductive care, is the complete callousness to the actual impact on the woman; that somehow a dying fetus is worth more? Where the f*** does that even come from, except perhaps subconsciously from exactly the repulsive belief expressed at the top of this reply?

Sure there may be other reasons. If anyone knows, please discuss.

[Autumn]

11. A lot of women are against abortion for several reasons. We are not all the same.

Their religion, family circumstances their belief that life begins at conception are things that play a big role in their "pro life" stance.

[Rebl2]

15. That is fine

for them and their family, but they need to stay out of other women’s decision on abortion.

[Autumn]

22. Yes but is it really the fault of the woman who votes? As far as I know abortion is not up for a vote.

The majority of women, even some of those who vote republican are for legal abortion yet the minority legislates what they want done. . I think the fault lies straight on the politicians and the supreme court. There seems to be little pushback against them.

[RandomNumbers]

37. Many women are voting for these politicians.

And they know full well about the abortion issue.

I have direct family members who have been bamboozled by the religious/moral "justification" planted in their minds by the string-pullers I mentioned in an earlier comment. I have seen this in action. Let's be clear: the vulnerability of these women to being manipulated this way, and their willingness to support politicians who impose state control on the lives of women generally, comes from a conviction that their values are right, and that it is morally incumbent on them to support the state making laws in line with their religion - God comes before country (and Constitution), after all. Like deciding which books should be available to children to read; like deciding which version of the Civil War should be taught in school; and on and on. In their minds, they are right, and they know it, and it is their duty to impose it on others.

So, how far back do we go? These women (the group I am referring to don't make up all anti-abortion women, but I believe are a huge swath), someone taught them this subservience and in turn their "right and duty" to dominate over those who might see differently.

Whose fault, originally? Does it matter, when people are suffering and dying from the result? We all have been taught bad things at some time in our lives. It is up to us to reflect intelligently and reject those teachings that cause us to harm others. So yes, it is the fault of the voter who votes for a politician in full knowledge of that politician's positions on the issue.

[Autumn]

41. Politicians and religion. Perhaps to go along with the lack of control over their bodies women should also not

be allowed to vote? What we have today is tyranny of the majority. That has to change We ned to realize that the system we have is outdated and no longer works. I don't expect any politicians to want to go there though.

[RandomNumbers]

43. Hmm .. a bit of a tangent ... but what alternative do you propose?

If you mean replacing the plurality electoral system used in most states with a more responsive system like ranked-choice voting, I can get behind that - and I already know a few Dems who are supporting that with activism.

If you mean something else - please give more details?

[Autumn]

46. Tangent? No just random musings on the problem. It's not my job to solve it. In an ideal world the politicians

would step up. But even with your highly touted activism the politicians have no interest in saving the only planet we have much less our democracy.

[RandomNumbers]

52. I was responding directly to this part of your post:

(bold added)

What we have today is tyranny of the majority. That has to change We ned to realize that the system we have is outdated and no longer works. I don't expect any politicians to want to go there though.

I 100% agree there is a problem - but if it is not our job to propose solutions, how to we expect our elected* politicians to care either?

Anyway I was just curious what you were thinking there. Sorry if I misunderstood the intent of your post.

* elected - for now at least.

[Autumn]

58. It's rather self explanatory. As for expecting politicians to care? They know what we want and need

but they make the choice to give their corporate donors what they want and need. That is what they care about. They do toss the voters a bone now and then, a very carefully trimmed bone. When we get politicians that do care then they make damn sure to keep them from doing what we want of them and what we voted for. What they did to Obama's agenda and what they are doing to Biden will continue.

[RandomNumbers]

61. Well, I deal in solutions. Workable solutions.

I share your frustration, but then I set that aside and look for what I can do. Sometimes it takes many steps to get to the real solution; and then there will be mis-steps and sometimes, steps backwards. But if the result is a better situation then it is worth it.

Funny, I had almost the exact same conversation about a problem at work yesterday. (I don't work in politics, ha ha. My job is way more rewarding because most of the time I get to actually solve problems.)

[Autumn]

63. Solutions for the private sector are much different from political solutions. One side of the political

spectrum wants no solutions. That's the only way they can "govern"

[RandomNumbers]

64. 100% agreement there! nt

[ShazzieB]

59. *Republican* politicians have no interest in saving the only planet we have much less our democracy.

It's not fair or accurate to lump ALL politicians together as not caring. Not when Democratic politicians are fighting tooth and nail to protect the planet as well as the rights of all marginalized groups, including women.

[RandomNumbers]

62. Thank you! nt

[womanofthehills]

71. We have a big problem pollution wise

Our own military pollutes as much as a country. How much pollution are the wars causing? We can’t do much about the mass pollution of China & India.
Republicans are more lax on pollution regulations but Dems aren’t great either. It’s a huge balance.


Here in NM- with our Dem gov who I really like - we have a big pollution problem that is not black and white. Because the EPA relaxed some standards on fracking to make the US less oil dependent - NM is now the 2nd largest oil producer in the US (Permian basin spans Texas & NM). The big plus - lots more money for our state - like billions more and we paid all state bills and still have a couple of billionto invest - and all tax payers got $500 this yr because of great oil & gas revenue. Great for our schools! But bad for our air - more methane gas, more greenhouse warming and way more OZONE in our air.

Kind of a catch -22. I want my grandkids to go to good schools but what about the air they breathe. At least NM will soon have the largest windfarm in the US - Sun Zia - but but - most of that energy is going out of state - it’s all about corporations making money.

[TheKentuckian]

86. How are they for legal abortion in any practical sense

when they vote for people who run on making it illegal and are all about judges to do the same.

No, stop the cap.

They are accountable for the role they play.

Accountability is just not a thing in certain circles.

[Autumn]

88. Because like it or not the facts are that there are republican women who support legal abortion just as there are

Democratic women who oppose it.

Among Republicans and independents who lean toward the Republican Party who say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, a large majority (78%) identify as conservative. But that is not the case among Republicans who support legal abortion, 53% of whom describe their political ideology as moderate or liberal. Republicans who say abortion generally should be legal also are less likely to live in the South and more likely to live in the Northeast and West – parts of the country with higher levels of support for legal abortion in general.

There is a similar split within the Democratic Party when it comes to abortion and political ideology. Half of Democrats and Democratic leaners who say abortion should be legal in all or most cases identify as liberal, compared with 22% among Democrats who generally oppose legal abortion.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/06/17/a-closer-look-at-republicans-who-favor-legal-abortion-and-democrats-who-oppose-it/

[onecaliberal]

30. Then they don't have to get an abortion. They have NO BUSINESS pushing their agenda on anyone else.

Full stop.

[Autumn]

33. It's the politicians pushing and legislating the anti abortion agenda, with very little push back. Full stop.

[onecaliberal]

55. Uhm, they are voting in those politicians to do what they're doing.

/end.

[cksmithy]

51. Exactly!

[et tu]

13. head of household

this is what they believe and so 'indoctrinate' all females ~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_patriarchy

[mcar]

14. I'll never understand it

but we women have been eating our own for generations.

[Hope22]

25. Religion...

…invented to keep women in chains.

[mcar]

28. Religion is part of it, yes

But seeing how HRC was treated in 2016 by so-called "progressive" women, along with RW women, showed that there is more to the phenomenon that just religion.

[Hope22]

40. The book 'A World Lit Only By Fire' will explain a lot! N/t

[mcar]

50. I'll check it out. Ty

[Hope22]

54. 👍😊

[OMGWTF]

38. That stupid fking story about Adam and Eve was the birthplace of misogyny.

Blame all of the world's ills on a female because a talking snake convinced her to eat an apple. JFC!

[MorbidButterflyTat]

65. The talking snake

was (supposedly) Satan himself, lying to Eve that she will not surely die (by eating fruit of the tree of knowledge) like God told them they would. It took a powerful demon to tempt Eve but Adam caved right in. They don't usually acknowledge Adam's pathetic weakness in their fury to blame women for every damn thing.

And frankly, why the hell did God create the damn tree in the first place, if his two mini-me Frankenstein monsters weren't supposed to eat from it? "A test"?? A "mysterious way"? He has "his reasons," and lame justifications x infinity.

- Survivor of a "religious" cult.

[Sky Jewels]

79. Eve and Mary are the only two major women characters in those stupid mythologies.

And Mary was basically raped by the cruel male sky god. Her major role is to be a vessel for the (also male, of course) "savior" of "mankind" (emphasis on the "man" part).

I despise those misogynistic, patriarchal bullshit primitive fairy tales and the grievous, unforgivable damage they've done to the world and to women over centuries.

[sarchasm]

16. please, please, please ... Rise Up!!

C'mon people now...

[DownriverDem]

18. Why hasn't

some folks come and got her out of Texas? I'd get the hell out of there.

[onecaliberal]

31. They are kept poor. The man has his knee on their neck.

[RandomNumbers]

35. Perhaps she is willing to be the test case

Because someone has to. Perhaps she recognizes that she is in a better position to do this than many others would be.

(or, who knows. Just that thought crossed my mind.)

If so, I applaud her and hope that she comes out of this physically and emotionally okay.

[Abigail_Adams]

49. I wonder as well.

But that could mean breaking some other law, and those who help her get out of Texas could get arrested. If the case had remained private, it could have worked, but now that it's national news, I think it's too late.

The only good thing is that this puts the cruelty and illogic of Texas's and Paxton's position in the spotlight, and I'm sure will motivate more women to vote blue.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

60. Why haven't you?

[Marthe48]

19. We think we understand

that people who vote for this kind of oppression are thinking of promiscuous young women who are careless and get pregnant and don't want a baby. Or mistresses who get into trouble and their part-time lover doesn't want them to have a baby. And these same people envision a tiny, perfect homunculus growing from its human form into a 9 month baby. Since their imagination sees the fetus immediately in human from as soon as a sperm hits an egg, that is what the pro-life people think is at risk. Normal people want to think the best of other people, so we try to find stereotypes that drive people to judge and control.

But, we must get it out of our heads that any of the antichoice, anti reproductive care supporters have anything to do with superficial stereotypes. Every single person who endorses a bill, votes for a bill, enforces a law that limits access to reproductive care from contraception to all OB-GYN care hate women. Just like they are arming their rightwing army by giving every person in the U.S. the right to own guns, they are targeting every single woman of childbearing years to forced birth. If there are a few crazy people who gun down multiple victims every day, that is a small price to pay to have that untrained, unpaid, unsupported army handy to send on a signal. If some of the women who get pregnant are 12, or their male relatives are monsters, or a married woman with a family is caught in the law, again, a small price to pay to punish every woman ever born. Are these examples of totalitarianism? Sure. It is all or nothing. The rightwing nut jobs, we have to stop them.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

67. That is so true

and truly depressing.

As a pre-teen I was told only "sluts" get raped.

Girls grow into women who don't forget shit like that.

[patphil]

20. As bad as those Republican men are in Texas, none of them could have been elected without a lot of women voting for them

[Mister Ed]

21. K&R, with a note that we men certainly bear no less responsibility than women do. n/t

[drmeow]

29. Lots of reasons

As someone noted, white supremacy trumps sisterhood.

If their baby has to be born stillborn or to live in pain for a few hours before dying, that's OK because it is God's will.

THEIR abortion is DIFFERENT - and even with restrictions, they've always managed to be able to get one (even sneaking in the back door of the abortion clinics so that the women they normally protest with don't see them).

They had to suffer, everyone coming after them should have to suffer, too.

They will never need an abortion because they are innocent/not sexually active/using some church approved BC and God will protect them/will never have too many children.

Working women don't deserve better pay because they are taking jobs away from men like their husband who needs a better paying job to support them.

They truly consider themselves to be subordinate to men and are totally OK with that.

That pregnancy is the woman's fault (in any and all cases - she was, after all, a female living under patriarchy - AKA she was drinking/dressed sexy/flirted/was exceptionally precocious for her age/etc.) so she needs to suffer.

They are too mindnumbingly stupid/brainwashed to understand the consequences of their actions.

Their priest/pastor told them to vote Republican and they do everything that person tells them to do.

[Collimator]

73. "THEIR abortion is DIFFERENT . . . "

Back in August, I shared a link to the Pro-Choice Action Network.
An article written in 2000 shares story after story of women who vehemently (and sometimes visciously) claim the Pro-Life mantle and yet seek abortion care when faced with an unwanted pregnancy. It's one of the most unfathomable mindsets that I have ever encountered.

[IndyPepper]

32. Unconscionable

This story saddens and enrages me. When will people wake up to the fact that pain and suffering reigns wherever Republicans rule? And I do mean rule, because they have zero interest in governing. That would require wisdom, empathy and compassion. The thought that there are millions of people, men and women, who gladly vote for this kind of dystopian nonsense sends shudders of terror down my spine. This is what happens when you put evangelicals in charge of anything. Their bigotry, hatred, ignorance and lust for power is on full display in all its evil glory.

[flashman13]

34. This is some serious bullshit. And I quote,

“Future criminal and civil proceedings cannot restore the life that is lost if Plaintiffs or their agents proceed to perform and procure an abortion in violation of Texas law,”

This is the kind of nonsense you get out of religious fanatics.

[onecaliberal]

57. The life is already lost.... I fucking hate these pricks.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

69. It's monstrous

My heart breaks for her and every one of the ignorant fucks' victims.

[world wide wally]

42. How about framing abortion as self defense in Texas?

Since gun rights seem to outweigh ALL OTHER rights.

[republianmushroom]

44. The life under republican control.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

53. Women are human, and being such...

Can be stupid, venal, hateful, massively hypocritical, and all the rest, and occasionally to a degree that leaves men behind. Bellatrix LeStrange was Voldemort's most dedicated, cruelest, true-believing ally; kind of a stroke of genius by Rowling, I always thought.
Reminds me a lot of Empty G, who has "emptied" herself of anything resembling humanity and replaced it with pure hate instead. Pure love on her face for the Orange Degenerate, even as he snubs the living shit out of her.
Then there's Bridget Ziegler in. Florida, gleefully beating up on LGBTQ people, even children, while reserving for herself all the pleasures of hedonistic sex...well, the ones she felt she could get away with, at least.

[Kali]

56. your last sentence is missing a word and says the opposite of what happened

"Texas Supreme Court stays a ruling allowing a woman to get an abortion."

missing "pauses"

[dlk]

72. Republicans are all in for the subjugation and abuse of women

It is no understatement to say, If they could, they would enslave women. They are certainly working toward that end.

[calimary]

76. Taking women's rights away, bit by bit, is certainly one way to do it.

Second-class, here we come.

[Sky Jewels]

80. More like 3rd class.

1. Men (of course)
2. Fetuses
3. Women

[calimary]

81. Yep. That's more accurate.

Unfortunately.

[bdamomma]

87. Women

will not stand for this, what to be subservient to men??? Not now, not ever. Again, what is happening now to women with our rights being taken away, should make us (who value our own autonomy) rise up. That is why we have to VOTE.


Great thread responses.

[calimary]

100. Abso-freakin'-lutely!

We MUST NOT stand for it. Not EVER.

We’ve gone too far forward to suddenly be forced to lurch into reverse. But we’ve gotta WORK LIKE HELL in 2024 to make sure Republicans high and low are defeated EVERYWHERE. “… in numbers too big to ignore.”

[dlk]

96. We are already there

American women don’t have equal protection under the law. Republicans are determined to keep it that way.

[calimary]

99. Which is why we have to overwhelm 'em at voting time.

“…in numbers too big to ignore.”

[dlk]

103. Exactly

My only concern is the extensive level of tampering Republicans have done to voting systems. Voting is one thing; having is counted is another. I don’t doubt women and the men who care about them will show up to vote. I have deep concerns about accurate vote tallies where Republicans are in charge. They’ve been cheating to win for a very long time.

[bdamomma]

104. Strength in numbers

Remember how women were in DC after that orange thug mobster was elected??? We could do it again, but hopefully we will not be sleepwalking into dictatorship.

Women’s March on Washington Jan 21st 2017
On the first full day of Donald Trump’s presidency, hundreds of thousands of people crowd into the U.S. capital for the Women’s March on Washington, a massive protest in the nation’s capital aimed largely at the Trump administration and the threat it represented to reproductive, civil and human rights.

[Demovictory9]

74. A woman once expressed apathy to abortion laws. Yet when she was pregnant she kept it secret

For first few months as almost all womem now do "in case something goes wrong"...i.e. So abortion is quiet option

[Rebl2]

83. 👆👆👆👆👆

[swong19104]

97. I don't get the stay

a one-week stay could be fatal to the mother (the fetus is already effectively gone, I believe).

[Hotler]

101. It's the christian nut jobs (Dominionist) behind this shit, and just about everything else the repugs

try to force down our throats. If you don't toe the line of their warped view of the old testament you're their enemy and deserving of their hate and cruelty.
These fuckers are America's Taliban, and they're chomping at the bit to rain religious cruelty and hate on Dems & Libs. Yes, they do dislike Jews, black & brown skin people and immigrants but, they really, really, really hate us.