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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI wish people here would quit with the "diaper Don" comments.
There are people here, including myself, who have to wear depends.
I had prostate surgery, (cancer,) and would love to not have to wear them.
As is, I only have to wear one a day.
Slam Donald Trump for his corruption. But QUIT with the diaper bullshit!
True Dough
(17,557 posts)I'm also corrupt and I take offense when others vilify those who lie, cheat, steal, undermine democracy and incite riots.
lame54
(35,493 posts)whathehell
(29,171 posts)The OP is right..There are many gratuitous, juvenile Trump memes endlessly repeated here.
True Dough
(17,557 posts)juvenile behavior till my dying day!
elocs
(22,773 posts)Why? What's the point of sinking to his level?
PJMcK
(22,168 posts)I have no need for the clever or not-so-clever mis-monikers some folks come up with.
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arthritisR_US
(7,307 posts)cab67
(3,053 posts)A pejorative.
arthritisR_US
(7,307 posts)leftieNanner
(15,267 posts)My husband wears them an they have helped him a great deal.
arthritisR_US
(7,307 posts)references to Depends have to do because the imp thinks hes so above anyone else and in no way so human that he is in need of such. Pointing out his human weakness and the fact that hes not a god or king rubs at him and I think is what these times need .
leftieNanner
(15,267 posts)FarPoint
(12,584 posts)I totally agree...
dalton99a
(82,121 posts)jimfields33
(16,693 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,618 posts)And orange makeup. Plus he cheats at golf and literally steals club championships. MAGAts don't care though.
jimfields33
(16,693 posts)Let me know when the day of the verdict is. Thats literally the only fact I want to know about him.
BlueKota
(2,146 posts)I am not fussy either/or will do.
arthritisR_US
(7,307 posts)dpibel
(2,958 posts)They really brighten the place up.
You owe me a new keyboard!
Hekate
(91,663 posts)RAB910
(3,622 posts)However, we are talking about Donald Vonshitsinpants . He has a long history of insulting people and mocking people with disabilities and the like. So if anyone richly deserved such treatment it's ex-president Vonshitsinpants
Mosby
(16,566 posts)And it doesn't seem to matter, people have diagnosed him and decided that his drug use (assumed) has led to incontinence (assumed) and people think it's funny.
I think he's a horrible person in virtually every way, but I'm not going to assume anything about his personal health.
JT45242
(2,405 posts)Both have been verified by many of the crew of the apprentice over the years.
Whether he has drug induced incontinence or not, the stories have come from at least half a dozen crew of the apprentice that he abused Adderall and had incontinence issues.
Both are likely for his nda requirements of all employees, even those who did not handle anything sensitive to his business interests and profits.
Hekate
(91,663 posts)KS Toronado
(17,869 posts)plus he's running for President on the Let's kill SS & Medicare ticket. So he's open to all our ridicule
if it helps to keep him out of office.
calimary
(81,996 posts)elocs
(22,773 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,307 posts)femmedem
(8,233 posts)it is painful and humiliating for other people with the same condition.
hlthe2b
(102,988 posts)The disabled and bullying of everyone in his orbit hardly earns him that consideration, but others do.
Thank you.
unblock
(52,876 posts)If we had a normal election with a normal republican candidate -- well, what used to be normal anyway -- that was all about issues and policies, then sure. Not a fan of ad hominem attacks. My father had prostate cancer and I'm at high risk for it, escaped it so far but I may be joining you at some point....
But in this case, I think it's warranted not because he wears depends, but because he's made a career out of fabricating an image of himself as some kind of demi-god, he's made a career out of ad hominem attacks on others, and he's specifically attacked Biden as being old and falling apart.
Moreover, we desperately need people to laugh at him and there's an entire category of humor that this fits squarely in.
So please don't take the jokes against Donnie as jokes against anyone who wears depends. You and the rest of that group don't go around insulting and mocking others for being old, but Donnie does.
Besides... he's always so full of sh*t....
FrankBooth
(1,628 posts)NM
Arne
(2,630 posts)and it's like changing a diaper but more personal.
I'll be using diapers and bedding protections next week
after my colon is repaired.
No problem with Shitsalot or Donny Diaper.
MOMFUDSKI
(6,289 posts)I remember watching Johnny Carson shortly after my dad died. He told a death joke and I was stunned but then realized it was just me due to timing. Quite a learning moment. It all depends on whose ox is being gored. And timing.
Arne
(2,630 posts)of newborn.
Even more so the biting odor.
This is exactly like that, twice a day.
Jilly_in_VA
(10,177 posts)I still have occasional problems and have to wear Attends briefs (referred to jokingly by me and spouse as "body armor" ) but have no problem with referring to the Slobfather as "Diaper Don" because he holds himself so high and mighty.
Arne
(2,630 posts)and there's a genetic component.
SarahD
(1,619 posts)Many people feel inspired to comment on Trump's undergarments because Trump portrays himself as younger, more vital, more energetic than that old man Sleepy Joe. The diapers are an indication he is showing more signs of aging than Biden. And Trump feels free to create derogatory nicknames for Biden, so the Diaper Don thing seems right. Plus it's a takeoff on Dapper Dan. Personally, I advocate dropping all nicknames for him because they associate him with perfectly wonderful people who have incontinence, weight problems, bad hair, etc. Just call him Trump. That's insulting enough.
ShazzieB
(16,985 posts)There are nicknames that don't call anything like that to mind. Example: TSF (the sick f***). I'm fine with those.
I also don't have a problem with making fun of his hair or makeup, because those are deliberate choices he has made due to his overweening vanity. The hair, for example, is a direct result of his denial of his perfectly normal male pattern baldness. Rather than admitting he's losing his hair (like millions of other men his age and younger), he grows the hair he has left super long and swirls it into that ludicrous haystack. It nakes him look stupid, and when people make fun of it, we're actually making fun of his vanity and his denial.
Personally, I'm not into making fun of his weight or his alleged incontinence, but I understand why people do it. We're all SO sick of everything about him, and all the mockery provides needed stress relief.
bluestarone
(17,377 posts)How many people suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, plus prostate problems. We don't need this talk.
My daughter nearly had to start kindergarten in diapers because of ulcerative colitis. She is now 33 - and struggling for the first time since she was 5. Ridicule of people wearing diapers makes it harder for her to think of wearing them during this flare.
sarisataka
(19,478 posts)But excuse ourselves, because
I have not forgotten all of the homophobic insults that were tossed around while he was in office.
keithbvadu2
(37,577 posts)1WorldHope
(746 posts)I think it is about him willingly shitting himself to manipulate the people around him. Then, we are told, he makes some other poor schmuck clean him up. It's because he is a bully who wants to be emperor and he deserves no respect from anyone but his jailers.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,324 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,681 posts)They arent talking about you.
murielm99
(30,878 posts)Thank you.
cayugafalls
(5,718 posts)Words are every bit as powerful as the physical, however, it is only because WE GIVE THE WORDS POWER.
I sincerely sympathize with you as I have had my own battles as age visits me, just remember, love conquers all...
and words can never hurt me.
Love, cayugafalls
GoneOffShore
(17,356 posts)As others have said, he portrays himself as being an almost faultless human being, in perfect shape. And yet, he's obviously not, and he would, and has, enthusiastically mock anyone who has the problems that many of us of a certain age suffer from.
Everyday I think of the words of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin:
"Vieillir, c'est comme être de plus en plus pénalisé pour un crime que vous n'avez pas commis."
Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed.
Mr.Bill
(24,438 posts)Sorry if I offended any ugly people out there. I'm sure there are people who think I'm ugly.
dalton99a
(82,121 posts)Martin68
(23,429 posts)against the serious reasons Trump is a danger to the country. Unfunny fratboy humor at its stupidest.
Doodley
(9,275 posts)He deserves to be mocked and belittled, because that is what he does to law makers, judges, foreign leaders, other nations, women, the disabled, the media. The list goes on and on. Making fun of him isn't to make fun of anyone else.
Mister Ed
(5,993 posts)A leader could be incontinent and still be the living embodiment of Ghandi, Lincoln, and MLK.
The drug abuse that likely causes Trump's incontinence is a serious concern in a candidate for the presidency, though. Criticism of Trump could legitimately be focused on that.
Rustynaerduwell
(668 posts)could be the one thing that costs him the election. And everyone here would exploit it.
The rules have changed so much, a lot of people here (myself included) would not have condoned it 8 years ago. But we must exploit every weakness of his and spread it far and wide. "Diaper Don" is a not so subtle answer to the question of President Biden's age. There are lukewarm MAGAts out there who won't hear any valid arguments, but would walk away with "Diaper Don" forever stuck in their head. It could help lose votes for the 'chosen one'.
forgotmylogin
(7,565 posts)I don't make fun of him in that way, and both my parents also wore them regularly.
It's one thing to wear them due to a health or medical issue and it's normal. I'm sure you have it under control as an independent adult.
In Trump's case, it's alleged his incontinence is egregious due to his poor diet, and that it was somewhat self-inflicted due to his past drug abuse. There are stories from production crew that they would have to temporarily shut down tapings of The Apprentice because he would soil himself, and there were designated people whose job it was to clean him up and change him like a baby while he stood there. And because he's used to this treatment, he will soil himself and sit there in it since he doesn't want anything to appear amiss, and people near him have to suffer because of that until he can get one of his handlers to do it for him.
I don't think it's a slam on him needing to wear incontinence garments, it's a slam that he's a rich spoiled old man who requires people change him like a baby and that it has to be a secret covert thing because he would never be honest about his own health issues and is constantly trying to project this "healthy man in his prime" image that is patently not true.
Bayard
(22,587 posts)Warpy
(111,802 posts)I'm not there yet but I can see it coming.
Still, I know juvenile rubbish like this is hat gets through to the MAGA cult, their god in a diaper,.their god kept silent and deflated in a courtroom, their god turning out to be human, old, and defeated.
They won't be able to forgive any of this, they want the out of control reality TV star they worship.
All I can suggest is to trash those threads. This will die down, too.
soldierant
(7,155 posts)when people use the term.
Nor is it the makeup or the shoe lifts nor the Adderal (likely the cause of the incontinence) nor any other artificial thing he uses to pretend he is an "Aryan God" in perfect health and erfect shape. What's being mocked is the pretense.
Last fall I had to wear them for about 6 weeks starting with a hospital stay after a fall nd continuing through rehab and after returning home until I finally stabilized. I still keep ahealthy supply of them on had, because what happened once could happen again. I'm not offended because I wasn't pretending I was perfect - I was seeking and receiving treatment, rehab, and assistance from friends. I know no one is talking about me.
Of course that doesn't mean we don't need to listrn to those who are bothered by it. I'm confident no one here has any intention of hurting anyone else, least of all someone with a genuine medical issue.
mopinko
(70,714 posts)his health is a legit issue.
dalton99a
(82,121 posts)meadowlander
(4,425 posts)Imagine our 2028 candidate was FDR and JFK reincarnated and had a spinal injury that meant they needed diapers as well as a wheelchair. Would you say that was disqualifying for that candidate on the basis of their health?
it wd b legit if the other guy was young and fit. i doubt jfk wd have been elected in the 1st place if the true state of his health had been known. and i think a case can b made that the drugs he took fueled his bad behavior.
obv mental health comes 1st, but the part where hes got 1 foot in the gave matters.
Celerity
(44,517 posts)mopinko
(70,714 posts)always has been, always will b.
we can afford to keep a gun in a holster at this point.
meadowlander
(4,425 posts)confronted with the information that he smells bad or wears a diaper change their position on him.
What I have see Trump supporters do is either:
1. deny it and use it as more evidence that democrats are desperate liars who will use anything to take him down; or
2. say that it shows how mean and nasty democrats are and how they can't be trusted with power because their approach is so juvenile.
I understand the theory that ridicule should be an effective tool against tyrants but I don't see any evidence of that in the case of Trump. People either double down or get defensive about it. It's not constructive and doesn't move the needle.
mopinko
(70,714 posts)personally, i think the worm is turning.
Archae
(46,441 posts)Because we DON'T know if he shits in his pants or not.
We are pulling the same bullshit that tabloids did back 2016, saying Hillary "was on her deathbed," "had only a couple months to live," etc.
ALL of those stories about Hillary being so sick or nearly dead turned out to be false.
GiqueCee
(789 posts)... taken by people behind him that prove he has serious issues with incontinence, and dozens of people that worked on the set of The Apprentice that had first-hand experience cleaning up after him, so yeah, we DO know. I have zero sympathy for that evil bastard.
Celerity
(44,517 posts)I am not going to be word policed about ridicule of Trump, sorry.
I do not think I have used 'Diaper Don' as a put down, btw (maybe wrong, but I cannot recall doing so).
I also completely disagree with the Hillary comparison, as that was just bullshit made up a an 'in the bag for Trump' newspaper
The diaper and shitting his pants things at least come from real sources, real people.
TwilightZone
(25,685 posts)To each their own, but I think it looks pretty silly and takes away from whatever message the person is trying to convey.
Celerity
(44,517 posts)AverageOldGuy
(1,607 posts)Thank you for this.
GiqueCee
(789 posts)... quite frequently, and for the same reason. I did not, however, have surgery; they caught mine early, so I just had my junk bombarded with radiation 5 days a week for 6 months. Permanent side effects that we don't discuss in polite company? Oh, yeah. Friendly advice: Never get between me and a bathroom.
But the Gangrenous Boil on the Ass of Humanity wears didees because he's been addicted to Adderall, and probably Peruvian marching powder, for years. So, yeah, I think he deserves to be mocked, but what's far worse are the belligerent idiots that still support him. They are too weak to admit that they've been played like a cheap fiddle, so wearing adult diapers in solidarity with the manure pile who validates their bigotry and staggering stupidity seems like a reasonable trade-off to their scrambled brains.
I'll make fun of his alternative to Fruit of the Looms every chance I get, because there's nothing he hates more than being ridiculed, and the schadenfreude is so gratifying.
Ms. Toad
(34,423 posts)And got the same rationalization you are getting - the same also offered when being gay or trans is used as an insult. Calling on the homophobic, trans-hostile, ableist traits of the target of the insults simply confirms that those using such insults see those of us who are LGBTQ+, or wear diapers as the butts of jokes.
FWIW, I wore diapers for most of a year when I had fibroids that threatened to cause me to hemorrhage to death (I could never count on more than 5 minutes between trips to the bathroom before I started wearing them), my grandmother wore them for years before c. Diff (a major cause of diarrhea) took her life at 101. Both my spouse and my mother have urinary incontinence and wear incontinence pads.
Plenty of ways to insult Trump without being ableist about it.
BannonsLiver
(16,681 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,423 posts)It has to do with respect for others who you are also insulting as a byproduct of a lack of the ability to imagine any way to insult Trump that is not homophobic, trans-hostile, ableist. Etc. Using a category of people as an insult is just as (or more) hurtful when used by people who theoretically support us, regardless of the ostensible target.
BannonsLiver
(16,681 posts)Thats who its being directed at, not the OP. Fortunately the majority of the forum isnt uptight on this issue.
Ms. Toad
(34,423 posts)Nor does it have anything to do with being uptight. It has to do with common decency, and not using bigotry in any form as an insult.
It is impossible to use a group of people as an insult without harming those people. It doesn't matter whether you are trying to insult Trump, or Biden, or the next door neighbor. Being used as a battering ram inherently hits the battering ram as hard as the person you are using it against. That's just simple physics.
That's why EarlG made this post, when people on DU persisted in using trans individuals as a battering ram - either directly or by misgendering Republicans like Lindsey Graham.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215969127
The principle is identical - regardless of which group of people you are swinging around as a battering ram.
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meadowlander
(4,425 posts)Part of the reason the magnitude of all the crimes doesn't break through for people is that all the headlines and all the conversations are about farting and sleeping and smelling bad when they aren't about who is glaring at whom in the courtroom.
He killed millions of people with his Covid policy, functionally orphaned hundred of kids whose families were seeking asylum, stole classified secrets, and tried to overthrow the US government. In this case, he conspired with a major US publication to plant false stories about his political rivals and to deny the US public the information they needed to make an informed decision before they handed over the nuclear codes and access to the most sensitive information our country holds. Focus people!
Wifes husband
(66 posts)The diaper Don comments are due to the hypocrisy. Diaper Don has made unbelievably terrible comments about people's appearance, breath, intelligence, education, etc, while running around looking like a rodeo clown, and embarrassing himself every time he speaks.
Accurate negative comments about him are fair game.
meadowlander
(4,425 posts)it puts down everyone with the same trait or condition because it implies there is something wrong with it.
Calling someone fat as an insult also reinforces for everyone else who hears it and is overweight that there is something wrong with them. Multiple that by a million repetitions over a lifetime and that's how people develop inferiority complexes.
BannonsLiver
(16,681 posts)Hekate
(91,663 posts)Last edited Sat May 4, 2024, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)
🌸The knowledge of his condition has been available since The Apprentice. My comment upfront: the concern is Mental health of a POTUS and the Dark Triad of psychopathy.
His behavior around his bowel incontinence is not one of self-care or any kind of adult modesty instead it ranges from apparent unawareness to outright aggression, which are traits of infancy and toddlerhood. Anyone who has potty-trained toddlers knows this behavior and normal people outgrow it.
The real issue is his mental health, which now includes dementia and imperils all of us. Psychiatrists & psychologists have been warning anyone who would listen for many years. In his case, his behavior around his bowel incontinence is but one manifestation, shown in his attitude toward others.
You and other DUers are dealing with health challenges as best you can. The rest of us are dealing with a would-be dictator who has convinced enough followers that he is a demi-god and enough oligarchs that it is to their advantage to back him, that he may well become that dictator.
Which is to say it isnt about you, its about bringing down the demi-god and dictator.
🌸
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The term Dark Triad refers to a trio of negative personality traitsnarcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathywhich share some common malevolent features. The construct was coined by researchers Delroy L. Paulhus and Kevin M.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/dark-triad#
Noel Casler of The Apprentice:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/18sa3cl/whats_going_on_with_trump_and_diaperssmells/
Answer: The comic Noel Casler worked on Celebrity Apprentice for six seasons. Unlike his colleagues, Casler thwarted his nondisclosure agreement, enabling him to tell us what he witnessed over his time working on set in close proximity to Trump:
He's [Trump] incontinent from all the speed, all the Adderall he does, the cocaine that he has done for decades. All that stuff has a laxative effect on your bowels and his are uncontrollable.
Casler said that Trump has been wearing 'diapers since probably the 90s'. Adding that they often had to stop the show in order for Trump to change his diaper, Casler said that Keith Schiller's job was to take Trump offset and wipe him down. "Our nickname for Keith was wet wipes."
Casler added that Trump does it and he almost sits there unaware of it, and one time he saw Ivanka have to kind of go whisper in his ear and then Keith came and took him offstage.
Trump not cleaning himself when changing out Depends, it is because he wears a hard plastic girdle and he doesn't have the freedom of movement. It's why you see him turn his body from the waist so strangely when standing.
He would soil himself often after flying into a rage and cursing out the Script Dept because he couldnt read a word. One time there was the word 'arbitrage' on a cue card and he freaked out and started screaming that the script department was setting him up then very loudly evacuated his bowels and you could smell it.
I should also mention that Casler originally came out about this in 2019 (around the start of the pandemic), but the story was mostly buried. This discourse was reignited by a recent tweet from former Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger:
Im genuinely surprised how people close to Trump havent talked about the odor. Its truly something to behold. Wear a mask if you can.
Google 'noel casler trump' and you will find even more Casler interviews on YouTube. There are too many to post here.
(Snip)
To prove the audio isn't doctored I'm also linking the full press conference from CSPAN's view and the same conference from PBS's view.
(End Reddit quote go there for live links)
Arne
(2,630 posts)I am terribly offended.
Hekate
(91,663 posts)sheshe2
(84,496 posts)It's worse than I thought.
The real issue is his mental health, which now includes dementia and imperils all of us. Psychiatrists & psychologists have been warning anyone who would listen for many years. In his case, his behavior around his bowel incontinence is but one manifestation, shown in his attitude toward others.
You and other DUers are dealing with health challenges as best you can. The rest of us are dealing with a would-be dictator who has convinced enough followers that he is a demi-god and enough oligarchs that it is to their advantage to back him, that he may well become that dictator.
Which is to say it isnt about you, its about bringing down the demi-god and dictator.
Thank you Hekate, this is far worse than I imagined. The inconvenience, drug use and yes, dementia makes him a clear and present danger to this country and the entire world if he gets back in office. Frightening.
Hope all is well with you
keithbvadu2
(37,577 posts)Elessar Zappa
(14,307 posts)Trump deserves every bit of ridicule that comes his way, I dont care about his feelings. I say this as someone who was in adult diapers for a few years and bed bound. Im also fat and I dont care if people mock Trumps weight. Theres other things more worth of getting offended over.
Comfortably_Numb
(3,917 posts)Anybody who is as insulting and vulgar as drumph deserves to be excoriated. If youre not a murderous, treasonous, misogynist thug, folks are not talking to/about you. Im obese, but I laugh my ass off at the fat references. The world isnt only about me.
kingvitamin
(55 posts)I think this falls into the same category as fat shaming. There is a treasure trove of things Trump can be attacked and ridiculed for that aren't related to physicality, which is an area that people have little control over. His corruption, his mean-spiritedness, his pettiness, his hypocrisy, his lying, his lack of morals, etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum. We have no shortage of material to work with.
TexasDem69
(2,075 posts)They are all infantile and off putting. Youd think that liberals would be a bit more, I dont know, professional and respectful?
BlueKota
(2,146 posts)that others have is probably not the best thing to do, however, I understand it's just towards him, and admit I have made some. I think the other name calling, like the orange asshat for example that some may view as childish, is a safe way to let off steam. Laughing at him, at least for me distracts me from my anger and my fear over what he is doing to this country, and keeps those feelings from overwhelming me, and loosing hope.
Is it professional probably not, but I am retired. Probably not mature either but, I stopped caring about other's opinions of me awhile ago. I also don't do the name calling of him, anywhere but on DU or the privacy of my own home, unlike him who broadcasts his insults of others to the world. So I don't see the harm.
newdayneeded
(1,976 posts)or degrade him in any way. Jesus says to love our neighbors and our enemies. He's a human being and deserves our 100% love. I agree with the OP, let's stop saying anything demeaning toward Donald Trump.
ProfessorGAC
(66,122 posts)Besides, wouldn't one have to believe Jesus existed to follow his teachings?
BlueKota
(2,146 posts)I read a question and answer column by a priest once where someone asked him, if you believe someone is truly evil and is a true danger to others, is it okay to pray to God for that person to die? The priest said in those circumstances in his opinion, it's unlikely God would hold it against you, because it's not just a petty personal grudge, it's out of deep concern for others too. He said as long as you leave it up to God i.e. natural causes, again not something God would get angry about.
Plus if one accepts that God is all knowing there's no point in attempting to lie to him. He knows I don't love Trump, so why pretend I do?
Hekate
(91,663 posts)
she dropped the Catholicism but she didnt drop the belief that suffering was a given and we should learn to live with it if physical or try to understand our persecutors if social but in any case, learn to live with it and be dignified.
Not so strangely, this left me defenseless in a world where bullies are countenanced and rewarded.
I am an old person now, and have learned better. Bullies and thugs do not improve or go away by the rest of us trying to understand what made them so. They continue in their course and get worse until they are stopped by others.
dalton99a
(82,121 posts)and don't forget to give all your money to the money changers because your real money is in heaven
JohnSJ
(92,754 posts)pwb
(11,475 posts)He never stopped wearing them. IMO.
Pathwalker
(6,600 posts)phylny
(8,412 posts)It took me YEARS of discussion to get him to go to Duke for an artificial urinary sphincter.
Life changing.
I wish you all the best.
snowybirdie
(5,301 posts)And better health. I feel the same about all the dementia comments. As a caregiver, they are painful to hear.
Kaleva
(36,594 posts)I don't take attacks directed against me personally either.
sorry but NO
NoMoreRepugs
(9,668 posts)doc03
(35,599 posts)used colostomy bag for several years before he died. But do you think Trump or his minions would refrain from making comments if it was Biden.
Sogo
(5,080 posts)He's not perfect.
Whatever can be done to push him over the edge, sooner rather than later, I'm all for it.
elocs
(22,773 posts)the kind that he thinks is so clever to use for Democrats and the Left. Leave that to him because we should be better than that.
Srkdqltr
(6,576 posts)czarjak
(11,549 posts)You've defined your agenda. PTL?
Freethinker65
(10,182 posts)I think the memes and jokes are sophomoric, but, they wouldn't exist if Trump wasn't known to be a vain egotistical POS that himself takes pleasure in ridiculing people for their disabilities and/or situations/behaviors beyond their control. Trump would actually get some sympathy from many in copping to medical issues he actually has to bring attention to those issues and prove one can live and thrive despite them (like Biden with stuttering). Trump, however, has no empathy for anyone and feels he needs to keep up the facade of perfection even though everyone knows it's B.S. (knowing more than the generals, having the best brain, weighing 235 pounds, having the largest crowds, winning golf tournaments at his own resorts with no verification, fake Time covers, etc.)
LuvLoogie
(7,157 posts)Fucking shitmouth bigot, he.
Initech
(100,390 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,480 posts)First, I have worked with older patients for years, and I know it is very rare that any of us will remain continent for all our lives as we age. I respect that and am very grateful there are products to accommodate incontinence. That said, let me also say, TFG has been incontinent for decades due to non-age related issueslikely drug abuse, not natural causes. Furthermore, he is an arrogant SOB who thinks he is better than you or me. The only reason anyone is dissing him for incontinence is because it MIGHT get through to his MAGA loyalists. The big tough guy who is better than anyone shits himself. Let us smear it in their f-ing faces! Weve tried every other GD thing to get through to them! Let me apologize to you for any discomfort our insensitivity has caused you, but it has a purpose that is definitely not directed at you or others like you. One more thing, when the MAGA crowd hits on Biden for his age, we can point out a clear problem with TFGs aging that is not so apparent with Biden, if its a problem at all. Please accept my apologies for insensitivity and know it is only directed to one person.
birdographer
(1,453 posts)All the different perspectives. As for me, I have a weird thing that I have come to discover is common with some runners. I am normal in terms of excretion every minute of every day. BUT if I go for a walk, within maybe 20 minutes, my bowels come to life and, well, there we go. I have stopped walking/hiking because of this. At 73, I want to walk and hike. I think maybe this summer I will do what others in this condition have done and get the f***king Depends.
I don't see this being like Donnie. The very second I got back to any kind of facility, I would clean up and lose the Depends. But he just sits there in his own shit with no sense of hygiene or thought of others around him at all. It's very different from any senior in this position. He seems to be proud of stinking up a room.
truepatriot4131
(7 posts)i hope you can stay safe
rambler_american
(795 posts)penis size has fuck all to do with manhood. That's all I'm sayin'.
Dear_Prudence
(474 posts)Dehumanization is effective in warfare in that it enables combatants to annihilate or mistreat other people without acknowledging their humanity. It does not, however, cause the enemy to retreat or rethink. We can't sway MAGA devotees by dehumanizing Trump. And, more importantly, when characteristics shared by your own troops, such as incontinence and obesity, are chosen as the tools of dehumanization, it can divide and depress your own fighting forces. So, as a tactical matter, and as matter of respect for one another, the diaper talk should end. That being said, creating memes specific to ego-driven leadership can demoralize or destabilize an egomaniac like Trump. I recommend sticking to Trump-specific memes targeting his ego such as smelly, orange, tiny hands, mushroom, muskrat hair, dumb, demented, broke scrub. He is also a racist rapist but I am not sure those labels bother him as much.
Pototan
(1,309 posts)with vile nick names? Did you bully individuals because of their disability or physical appearance?
Please don't imply they are the same thing. That creates a false equivalency.
Jack-o-Lantern
(989 posts)And heres the thing. I now have a micro-penis due to cancer. I would greatly appreciate an end to the trump has a tiny penis jokes. It makes me cringe.
Do you remember how trump mocked that crippled man? That orange baboons ass thought that was hilarious
nuff said.
Maraya1969
(22,705 posts)depends from what I hear. It is a consequence of his abuse of speed for so many years. Plus there are times because of the IBS that I wear them also and I don't give a shit that he is made fun of, (pun not intended). I saw we use every piece of armor that we can.
I am sure not one person here would make fun of you or me. It is him. I say try to detach yourself from him. Plenty of people have that problem but that guy, because of all the mean things he says about others, constantly deserves to be made fun of. I have been particularly upset about the way he made fun of the journalist who has a spastic condition and the way asshole made fun of him since my nephew has had a bad stutter his whole life. And when he was young he told me about how the kids made fun of him. Trump also made fun of Biden for his stutter.
We love you here. Please trust that.
Jack-o-Lantern
(989 posts)Layzeebeaver
(1,718 posts)I find myself deleting replies and OPs because I just can't bear the over the top responses.
Ponietz
(3,173 posts)Its about me, always.
Jack-o-Lantern
(989 posts)Ponietz
(3,173 posts)Last edited Mon May 6, 2024, 05:45 AM - Edit history (1)
and collateral damage is, regrettably, unavoidable.
Its not about me. Its not about the original poster.
Its essential, and life preserving, to destroy Trump in the public zeitgeist NOW and with ALL available legal means. MAGAts dont understand reason but they can understand poop jokes. Whats next? The dementia lobby takes exception and clutches its pearls?
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twodogsbarking
(10,334 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(3,089 posts)Emile
(24,257 posts)wolfie001
(2,527 posts)Always lash out at that lying mf'er. He deserves everything he's earned.
Shrek
(3,997 posts)Why or why not?
Archae
(46,441 posts)"House (n-word,)" to describe Clarence Thomas and his obvious kowtowing to the right wingers.
I never use the term myself, but I do know of it.
Raine
(30,565 posts)betsuni
(26,237 posts)He needs to be attacked for his horrible hypocrisy.