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Oopsie Daisy

(2,846 posts)
Tue May 7, 2024, 05:25 PM May 7

Madeline Albright was a Jewish Holocaust survivor.

This is shameful. What good or legitimate reason would ANYONE have for voting against H.R. 3354 (https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60257) a bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 220 North Hatcher Avenue in Purcellville, Virginia, as the “Secretary of State Madeleine Albright Post Office Building"

The bill also includes other post offices that are to be renamed for fallen military heroes Corporal Michael D. Anderson Jr.; Specialist Justin Dean Coleman; and Colonel Joseph William Kittinger II for his lifetime service.

THOMAS
@TommyInPA
Rashida Tlaib just went out of her way to join some Republicans in voting "no" on this.

Madeline Albright was a Jewish Holocaust survivor.

Jake Sherman
@JakeSherman

So far, we have 26 GOP nos and 3 GOP presents on a resolution to name a post office in Purcellville, Va., for Madeline Albright. @RashidaTlaib is also voting no.

Vote not closed yet.






https://thefallen.militarytimes.com/marine-cpl-michael-d-anderson-jr/558145


https://thefallen.militarytimes.com/army-spc-justin-d-coleman/4209146


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kittinger


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,546 posts)
1. Raised Catholic, moved to Britain in 1939.
Tue May 7, 2024, 05:36 PM
May 7

I would be surprised to learn if she considered herself a Holocaust survivor, but maybe she did.

This isn't even considering when she said the sufferings and deaths of Iraqis because of sanctions was "worth it."

Oopsie Daisy

(2,846 posts)
3. Here's a statement from the US Embassy in Luxembourg after she died.
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:05 PM
May 7
I found this. Thankfully this is a US Gov't document, so the 4-paragraph limit does not apply.

lu.usembassy.gov/remembering-madeleine-albright-a-fierce-defender-of-human-rights/

Mar 24, 2022

Madeleine Albright, an immigrant who fled Nazism to become the United States’ first female Secretary of State, died March 23 from cancer. She was 84 years old.

Known for her staunch support of democracy and human rights around the world, Albright served as the U.S. permanent representative to the United Nations before President Bill Clinton appointed her secretary of state in 1997.

At the time of her appointment, Albright became the highest-ranking woman in the history of the U.S. government.

Born in Prague, Albright immigrated with her parents to England as a 2-year-old in 1939. Her parents left to escape the Third Reich’s invasion of Czechoslovakia. Her family moved to the United States when Albright was 11 years old.

From immigrant to diplomat

Born in Prague, Albright immigrated with her parents to England as a 2-year-old in 1939. Her parents left to escape the Third Reich’s invasion of Czechoslovakia. Her family moved to the United States when Albright was 11 years old.

Albright attended Wellesley College, an all-women’s school, and graduated with a political science degree. Shortly after, she married Joseph Medill Patterson Albright.

Albright earned a Ph.D. in 1976 from Columbia University in public law and government. There, she studied under Zbigniew Brzezinski, who became the National Security Council advisor to President Jimmy Carter that same year. Albright also became a White House staff member in 1976 and sat on the National Security Council in the Carter administration.

Albright’s four-decade diplomatic career proved her a fierce defender of and advocate for human rights, especially in Eastern Europe following the collapse of the Soviet Union.

First female secretary of state

As the first woman to become secretary of state, Albright advocated for expansion of the NATO alliance and used her position to advocate for democracy in Eastern Europe.

more...

Oopsie Daisy

(2,846 posts)
6. "Her" policies? Good grief.
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:20 PM
May 7

Actually, the role of the Secretary of State is to advise the President of the United States on foreign policy and to carry out the President's foreign policy agenda. The SOS is the chief foreign affairs official of the United States and is responsible for managing the country's diplomatic relations with other countries. The SOS is also responsible for overseeing the State Department, which is the executive department responsible for foreign affairs.

The SOS is a member of the President's Cabinet and is one of the most important members of the President's foreign policy team. The SOS is responsible for advising the President on a wide range of foreign policy issues, including diplomacy, trade, and national security. The SOS also represents the United States in international negotiations and meetings.

The SOS is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The SOS is a political appointee and serves at the pleasure of the President.

The SOS is a powerful position in the United States government. The SOS has a significant influence on the country's foreign policy and plays a key role in shaping the country's relationships with other countries but she does not establish policy.

In the case of Madeline Albright, she served as SOS under President Bill Clinton from 1997 to 2001. She was the first woman to hold the position. Albright was a strong advocate for human rights and democracy and played a key role in the Clinton administration's foreign policy.

Albright's tenure as SOS was marked by a number of successes, including the expansion of NATO, the Dayton Accords, which ended the Bosnian War, and the Kosovo War.

Although, she was also criticized for her role in the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, it was not she who invaded Iraq, nor did she make those decisions. Albright was a highly respected diplomat. She was a strong advocate for women's rights and has been a role model for women around the world.

Crunchy Frog

(26,725 posts)
9. I should have said that she was criticized for remarks that she made prior to becoming SOS.
Tue May 7, 2024, 07:43 PM
May 7

She was widely and heavily criticized for those remarks including here on DU, though that was obviously many years after she made them.

From the Wikipedia page that you link to.

On May 12, 1996, then-ambassador Albright defended UN sanctions against Iraq on a 60 Minutes segment in which Lesley Stahl asked her, "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" and Albright replied, "We think the price is worth it."[129][130] The segment won an Emmy Award.[131][132] Albright later criticized Stahl's segment as "amount[ing] to Iraqi propaganda", saying that her question was a loaded question.[133][134] She wrote, "I had fallen into a trap and said something I did not mean",[135] and that she regretted coming "across as cold-blooded and cruel".[129] She apologized for her remarks in a 2020 interview with The New York Times, calling them "totally stupid".[136][130]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright

As far as being a Holocaust survivor, it sounds like the family left Czechoslovakia right after Munich, so spent practically no time under Nazi occupation, since they arrived in Britain several months before the war began with the invasion of Poland. I think it's likely that she lost many relatives though.

I don't personally have any objections to a post office being named for her, and always thought that the attacks on her (here) were overblown.

I'm personally doubtful about the objections have to do with her being of Jewish heritage or her family's exit from mainland Europe well before the war there began.

I agree that she accomplished a great deal and was admirable in many ways.



hlthe2b

(102,616 posts)
5. I adored her--got to meet her a few times when I guest lectured at University of Denver (DU)
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:19 PM
May 7

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and sit in on a few of hers. She was incredible. She teamed up with Gary Hart (and a couple of other notables or former notables) on a panel discussion. She had the students (and faculty) mesmerized.

She deserves a lot more than a Post Office be named after her, but it sounds like this passed, regardless.

FakeNoose

(32,964 posts)
8. Besides being an awesome Secretary of State
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:27 PM
May 7

... she wrote at least 2 wonderful books about her life and career.
Yes she's deserving to have a government building named after her.

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