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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlito was poised to stop Pence counting Electoral College votes on Jan 7; Pelosi foiled this
Link to tweet
"This new interview by Powell is interesting. It suggests that the purpose of the insurrection was to DELAY the electoral college certification to give Alito time to intervene on this legal challenge. But, Powell says they didnt anticipate Pelosi reconvening Congress that day."
If you don't want to watch the video on Twitter, Sidney Powell admitted it in writing on this wingnut website: https://defendingtherepublic.org/why-pelosi/
Timeline:
Sat Jan 2: 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals throws out Gohmerts and several Arizona Republicans lawsuit seeking to force Pence to help throw the election to President Donald Trump next week when Congress meets to count the Electoral College votes.
Wed Jan 6: Powell, Gohmert and the others file for an injunction at SCOTUS. Powell's account, with her italics showing what she thought was important (she, of course, claimed it was a "democrats' coup" because she's a lying idiot):
Given Pelosis participation as amicus, she would receive notice of the Gohmert filing for an injunction with the Supreme Court. She would understand that Justice Alito could alone enter an injunction against use of the Electoral Count Act because he is the Circuit Justice for Louie Gohmerts district.
Abandoning any concern for mass covid infection from the deplorables in the Capitol, Pelosi fired her political kill shot: she shockingly announced at 6:30 pm that members would resume the count at 8 pmjust hours after Michael Byrd killed Ashley Babbitt and demonstrators were still in the Capitol.
Notably, Pelosis rush to restart at 8 pm did not prevent the process continuation to January 7th. Members could have gone home to rest and resumed the vote early in the morning without losing a day. In other words, nothing would have changed regarding the date of the completion of the count. The absurdity of driving Congress to complete a process amidst such unrest was driven by something entirely different.
Speaker Pelosi had to act quickly to prevent Justice Alito from enjoining application of the Electoral Count Act and throwing a big wrench in the democrats coup.
Thur Jan 7: Alito denies the application, because it's too fucking late, ha-ha.
Powell felt confident that Alito would give the injunction, and is really pissed off that Pelosi saw what was happening, and made sure the count resumed that evening, and not the next day when Alito could have played his part.
Kudos to LetMyPeopleVote for spotting the tweet about this back in Sept 2021: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215897554#post29 . I don't think I noticed anything about this at the time. I've seen it now because Roy Edroso posted about it today:
https://alicublog.blogspot.com/2024/05/friday-round-horn-hate-rally-round-flag.html
Thank goodness Pelosi was so damn good at her job.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)If it were not for Pelosi what would have happened?
underpants
(183,373 posts)Jesus, Nancy and Steny and Im sure Hakeem was in there thought of every angle.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)- Mike Flynn got his active duty brother at the Pentagon to ward off any calls for help.
- Somebody got to the Supreme Court.
- Members of Congress helped with blueprints, tours the days before, location of emergency buttons, etc.
- Someone arranged for no back up for the Capitol Police despite their desperate calls.
No wonder why they all want to shut down J6 investigations.
The treason goes up to the highest levels.
This is the stuff we know about.
There is more, much more.
markodochartaigh
(1,237 posts)in power, in state office and in national office. Often in the office responsible for certifying the state's slate of electors.
https://electiondeniers.org/
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/one-third-states-election-denier-governor-attorney-general-secretary/
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)They worked out the bugs.
Next time they will do it much better.
orangecrush
(19,781 posts)Have Trump in office to help them next time.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)These people are evil to their core.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,629 posts)is that there are millions of us combat veterans who are liberal or just plain fed up with the lawlessness of the so called "militias" who will fight them.
They think we're a bunch of pussies because we're liberals, but those of us who have experience with urban warfare will oppose them with whatever it takes.
Good to talk to you Irish_Dem.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)When the liberals decide they have had enough and fight back and fight like hell.
Intelligent and well trained individuals like yourself as compared to the MAGA pretend
soldiers who have watched a civil war militia video.
Hi MCE, I am so glad to see you!
orangecrush
(19,781 posts)What decent people have always done.
They will do everything they can to live in peaceful coexistence with all.
Until they can't.
Then they will do what they have to do.
Bank on that.
AZ8theist
(5,609 posts)In a country AWASH with guns.....
Does the Reich Wing think THEY are the only ones who will use them???
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)Putin and Xi who work with the GOP to undermine our democracy assume that
all Americans can be indoctrinated like their citizens.
But Chinese and Russia citizens have been under autocratic rule for centuries.
They know nothing else.
American citizens have had a long taste of freedom.
And been taught the value of a democratic form of government.
The US is the greatest democracy in the history of the world.
It won't go down without a fight.
calimary
(81,796 posts)Take NOTHING for granted.
wnylib
(22,038 posts)There are many ways to bring down the government system in order to take control. I've never been in the military or in a sport where I was required to develop a strategy, so if I can think of ways to take control, you can be sure that the fascists who surround Trump have a plan.
They will do whatever it takes to gain control of the country, either during the vote casting and counting, or afterward if they don't succeed in rigging the vote outcome.
If they manage to rig the outcome successfully, there will be a minimum of violence, except to respond to protests of their takeover.
If they don't succeed in rigging the votes
in their favor, there will be violence against infrastructure as well as against select people.
LiberalFighter
(51,923 posts)If I had Presidential Immunity
SWBTATTReg
(22,433 posts)charged, all of them, and then taken to trial, and those in the Supreme Court, need to lose their jobs as they proven to be traitors to the entire process that has been followed for years and years, in counting the votes, and certifying the next president of the US.
tRUMP has infected all of these people in his pell-mell drive to win at any cost, even cheating right and left.
Biophilic
(3,806 posts)But more and more it sounds like a very large group of diverse people attempting to take over our government and nation. Trump seems to be just a figurehead.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)Not the higher ups, the planners, organizers and funding sources.
SWBTATTReg
(22,433 posts)Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)You are untouchable.
lindysalsagal
(20,914 posts)We'd likely lose dozens of legislators. It would be chaos, trying to legislate while keeping the perpetrators out. Still, we should prosecute.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)They seem untouchable for their J6 crimes.
elocs
(22,717 posts)How close we were to losing our country that day. Thankfully we had smart people like Pelosi who had our back.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)They were set up and left to fend for themselves.
They desperately called for backup and no one came.
Higher ups said it was a "communication mistake."
Americans across the country were watching it on TV but not one person
in DC in a position of authority could see it and send in some help?
The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
Heads should roll, but probably not.
Yep we came close to a true catastrophe.
Shipwack
(2,202 posts)No wonder why they all want to shut down J6 investigations.
The treason goes up to the highest levels.
Liz Cheney was/is playing her own game. She doesn't care about the little fish caught in the nets.
Her sole concern was that no Republican members of congress were shown to be involved.
I admit to having no proof, but to my mind the investigations abruptly stop at a certain point. My theory is that Liz's price for being a cooperative member of the committee was guaranteeing that top people were not implicated.
She did this not because she likes any of those who planned the insurrection. She just wanted to protect the Republican brand. Proving that congressional Republicans were involved would definitely cause ripples that would last until the upcoming November elections.
Not that any of those members appreciated that she was running interference for them...
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)The proof is in what happened.
A deal was cut with the MOC, DOJ, Cheney, J6 committee.
Cheney was able go forward with the J6 investigation as long as no MOC were mentioned. Congress and the DOJ would not investigate MOC.
Yes she could care less about the GOP MOC who were involved in J6.
She wants to protect the GOP brand and electability.
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hibbing
(10,129 posts)Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)Well, maybe they would now.
FalloutShelter
(11,985 posts)and then I am.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)I think I am shock proof until the next shock hits.
onetexan
(13,129 posts)Need to go to prison. This is treason at its worst.
Kid Berwyn
(15,392 posts)Nancy Pelosi saved Democracy that day.
malthaussen
(17,272 posts)Otherwise, it would have worked.
-- Mal
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)Only seconds away from getting Pence and Pelosi.
And if Pelosi had not figured out their plans, they could have carried it out.
Next time they won't make any mistakes.
This was the dry run.
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)Fuck Justice Alito...traitor and bigot
ShazzieB
(16,827 posts)But on January 6, she showed that she was even more bad ass and more heroic than we had even imagined!
She deserves a medal. She deserves ALL the medals!
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)She saved our Democracy.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)I would not have suggested this a month ago.
But naivety is no longer an option.
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)And did it very quickly.
A woman outsmarted them.
With one hand tied behind her back.
That had to smart.
Then they come after her and her husband.
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)I love Nancy!
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)Anything is possible.
gab13by13
(21,813 posts)Thought she was home. Her husband was his 2nd choice.
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)malaise
(269,926 posts)They will fail again
mjvpi
(1,452 posts)January 6th was a flat out coup attempt. When the top court in the land is stacked, the coup is lingering in a half state. We are unable to prosecute the flagrant attempt, let alone dig out the rot. Vote like our country depends on it!
COL Mustard
(6,082 posts)If they do this shit again and succeed we are doomed as a country.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)They had a dry run, saw the problem areas.
And have time to fix those.
The next time has a higher chance of being successful.
JustAnotherGen
(32,236 posts)Never take your eyes off an enemy intent on evil - until they have been brought to heel.
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)-We see every week that the MAGA power base is wider and deeper than we realized.
-There is deep MAGA support across two branches of government and the media.
-The US Supreme Court is in Maga's pocket.
-The corruption and treason at the highest levels is undeniable.
-We learn more about the Chinese and Russian interference and involvement in our politicians and elections.
bluestarone
(17,275 posts)Dangerous times ahead, that's for sure. They could push us ALL to our limit. Then what? When we know the COURTS are our enemy, we have to have a plan.
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)We are going to need it.
brush
(54,212 posts)couldn't slip their dirty deeds past her.
Blue Owl
(50,862 posts)And then thrown in jail -- that motherfucker!
Retrograde
(10,212 posts)thats what really gets his male supremacist goat
PufPuf23
(8,914 posts)apologize.
Alito is not a decent human being.
Alito should be impeached, even if the attempt fails for lack of votes.
Needs to be on record for history books.
Initiate Alito's impeachment Monday.
lastlib
(23,512 posts)Every elected official who cares for democracy (rules out repuglikans) must call for his IMMEDIATE resignation! Blast him from every side until he is GONE! He is absolutely unworthy to continue to hold his seat--in fact the only thing he is worthy to hold at this point is a cot in a cell.
Biophilic
(3,806 posts)At least not how I define patriotic.
Seinan Sensei
(394 posts)Trust_Reality
(1,735 posts)She is suggesting that Alito was a player in the conspiracy - which absolutely needs to be investigated to its full depth. Many others involved as well. It may be that we citizens need to have the DOJ's back because this is a big deal.
duckworth969
(747 posts)Man, we came so close to disaster. As if it wasnt bad enough.
SC still trying their shit too.
PortTack
(32,901 posts)That all concluded that the election was fair. Powell said a lot of things that were lies
Not defending that scum alito
just looking back at the facts
yardwork
(61,913 posts)Alito is the USSC justice for Gohmert's district, so Alito could have acted alone to temporarily halt the certification.
The ensuing chaos would have given the GOP time to reinstall Trump, using the Capitol riot as an excuse. It worked in 2000 with much less...
Farmer-Rick
(10,306 posts)Alito was just the stooge who would stop the certification. This would give the fascists time to blockade the white house? Use the insurrection act? Plan a few assassinations?
They will have a tougher time this time around because they don't have the Senate and Presidency to plot their insurrection. Now we need to get back the House and fix the f*cking traitors on the Supremes.
Trust_Reality
(1,735 posts)and delaying justice for Trump at every turn.
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)Eventually, it gets thrown into the House and we lose. We don't have as many states. You only needed Alito.
Uncle Joe
(58,753 posts)Thanks for the thread muriel.
onethatcares
(16,275 posts)YOU are a true Patriot and upholder of the Constitution.
I don't have the words to express my thoughts. Thank You.
bucolic_frolic
(43,803 posts)Well, that could have been worse, and went back to firing her cannon.
https://www.revolutionary-war.net/molly-pitcher/
Wonder Why
(3,514 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,653 posts)rubbersole
(6,827 posts)...phase 2 of the oligarch takeover will have begun. tsf will never be 'elected' and the distraction he'll create will be a smokescreen for the states to 'choose' a president. I hope I'm so wrong. But the wingnuts aren't hiding their intentions. Unlimited money will do that for you.
Boomerproud
(8,024 posts)Contempt for all involved and cannot praise Speaker Nancy Pelosi for her bravery and brilliance that fateful day. Maybe now the msm will finally focus on the perpetrators at the top. I personally think the story is too widespread and frightening for the whole truth to come out.
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(5,990 posts)She is a treasure!
Kaleva
(36,499 posts)Powell, as the evidence shows, was and is clearly out of touch with reality. What would work in Fantasy Land won't likely work in the real world
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)Alito is despicable and corrupt.
Not hard to speculate.
2 plus 2 equals 4.
Kaleva
(36,499 posts)None of her plans worked but you think this one could have if it had not been for Pelosi.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,502 posts)If it were just a gripe that the count was completed before "the Supreme Court" could interfere, it might have been wishful thinking on her part. But she notes that because it was Gohmert, they knew it would be Alito who saw it first. And given the contempt Alito has been shown to have for democracy since, it seems believable.
Kaleva
(36,499 posts)"Explaining the Supreme Courts ruling denying Trump and how Alito and Thomas didnt dissent"
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/12/politics/texas-pennsylvania-supreme-court-alito-thomas-explained/index.html
".Supreme Court Rejects GOP Bid To Reverse Pennsylvania Election Results"
"The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice [Samuel] Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied," said the court's one-sentence order, which did not suggest any dissent among the nine justices."
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/944230517/supreme-court-rejects-gop-bid-to-reverse-pennsylvania-election-results
Freddie
(9,300 posts)Hope Im still around to see it.
ananda
(28,973 posts)Fuck now!
Irish_Dem
(49,592 posts)She certainly deserves it.
bluestarone
(17,275 posts)WTF???
Hekate
(91,406 posts)Highlights to include her simultaneously hiding for her life and co-ordinating the federal government response, cool as a cucumber.
Prince99
(54 posts)Trump will lose this November and it's that simple. They know it! However, the apparatus and set up is all in motion folks. I hope we are prepared. Let's count the ways:
1. Sell off of top secret documents
2. High level dignitaries visiting Mar Barfo
3. Gas prices
4. Middle east conflict
5. Ukraine funding
6. LIV Golf - money laundering
7. Supreme Court decisions
8. Recent voter court filings
9. Press surrogates - Tur/Haggerman
10 .J6 dry run
Maybe I watched too many Netflix/Prime thrillers but its all connected. Why do I feel our elected officials are out taking a nap and not calling out the obvious or at least casting the concern that way public discourse can start the conversation.
walkingman
(7,812 posts)will be someone that ignored the corruption and unethical behavior by the court.
bluestarone
(17,275 posts)Alito and Thomas FOR SURE!! Plus Thomas's wife. Roberts, i feel is losing his power. (if he had any) THIS court could destroy us, the way it is now. We are so close to a civil war IF this court continues it course they have selected. I do not have the answer, BUT these judges need to be HOUNDED every where they go (LEGALLY i mean)
Traurigkeit
(777 posts)Trust_Reality
(1,735 posts)I remember observing that during the impeachment hearings, he very much seemed to be acting as a useful stooge for the Republicans.
We need to help make the reputation of the "Roberts Court" something that lives in infamy.
GiqueCee
(716 posts)... that Roberts was one of the mob that stormed the count in Florida during "The Night of the Hanging Chads", before the Rehnquist Court had even handed down its stay, which was pivotal in stealing the election from Al Gore. I wouldn't trust that sonofabitch any further than I could throw my truck.
usonian
(10,188 posts)Kept hope and democracy alive for four years of treason and destruction.
And was acting President when Putin's Puppet was busy watching the conspiracy play out.
Torchlight
(3,586 posts)And it's often an eye-opener watching the "it may not smell good, but it doesn't smell bad either" routine followed by a few, "but maybe she meant this..." coworkers do their tired schtick, trying their level best to keep trump's nose above water. Bless thier little idiot hearts; they just need more hugs.
yardwork
(61,913 posts)Her aides grabbed the buses with the votes, and Nancy reconvened Congress that night. She knew what was at stake.
The Republicans didn't expect that.
NanaCat
(2,028 posts)A Senate aide saw the danger to the process, and took it upon herself to round up fellow staffers and get those certifications to safety.
We won't know her name for a long time, because releasing it would of course subject her to death threats, but she, too, played an important role in saving our democracy.
jmbar2
(4,965 posts)Ladythatvotesblue
(143 posts)is the angel of democracy in high heels!
Traurigkeit
(777 posts)insurrection and we will reduce the Years in Prison to seconds, TSF would FLIP SO FAST the laws of gravity will be broken.
The $$$ behind this does not want it to get set into the light.
Wouldn't be surprised if TSF gets offed by the $$$ men if the US DoJ gets too close.
karin_sj
(828 posts)January 6th was practice. Now they know what they need to do and they will be much more efficient. I still believe that Biden will win resoundingly but these people are scoundrels and they will stop at nothing to install King Orange Turd. It's horrendous that we have to deal with this.
lindysalsagal
(20,914 posts)Everything else finally makes sense. Their fealty to Trump was the guarantee, and now he's promising to hide their crimes when he returns to office. This HAS to make the ms media NOW. I'm sending it to Rachel.
Demsrule86
(69,027 posts)mahina
(17,884 posts)Thankful for her!
Botany
(70,784 posts)oasis
(49,721 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,473 posts)is the reason I don't believe in term limits. What would we have done without her?
DET
(1,364 posts)What are the odds that this gets buried by the press? After all, it has been so far. Plus, of course, what did Alito know and when did he know it?
LiberalFighter
(51,923 posts)grumpyduck
(6,322 posts)These people are miles below disgusting. Fuck them all.
Alito should be thrown in the worst prison on earth.
brooklynite
(95,390 posts)...but what SIDNEY POWELL imagines MIGHT have happened if the Congress hadn't resumed counting the electoral votes isn't a smoking gun.
Trust_Reality
(1,735 posts)I see probable cause here, there, everywhere.
Or, maybe it is all just a bunch of anti-democracy, racist, religious radicals of groups and individuals all going in the same direction.
Evolve Dammit
(16,948 posts)mgardener
(1,830 posts)She and McCarthy met with Trumpmin the Oval office on Jan 4th.
DFW
(54,706 posts)It certainly seems like enough to warrant a criminal probe into Alitos part. This is far beyond an impeachable offense, if theres anything to it, and by naming Alito in public as their co-conspirator, I dont see how this could be construed as a misunderstanding. I think that Alito might be considering a longer stay on Leonard Leos yacht next time, for example, as in a permanent cabin residence while moored at Grand Cayman.
Kaleva
(36,499 posts)She was guessing that Alito would help them.
Like Magahats claiming the election was stolen even though they've been unable to produce any evidence to back up those claims and yet they still want people to believe that it actually happened .
soldierant
(7,069 posts)and so easily distracted,, and so easily terrified, that they cannot even comprehend the notion of Pelosi doing hers.
Blue Owl
(50,862 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,167 posts)It's time to expand the court.
BoRaGard
(399 posts)what a disgrace they are
MaryMagdaline
(6,869 posts)elias7
(4,060 posts)Totally shoveling shit Pelosi's way for Pelosi resuming the count so quickly (despite so much covid risk from all the Jan 6ers, despite the killing of Ashley Babbitt, despite keeping everybody up). Then says the only reason for this "absurd" action was to thwart the R's plan to get the filing to Alito (Gohmert's district's assigned judge) who would then suspend the electoral count act, "throwing a big wrench in the Democrat's coup".
She is a total election denier citing a whole lot of discredited hogwash about how the Democrats cheated (hundreds of affidavits, statistical studies proving mathematical impossibilities, disappearance of mail ballots, mysterious appearances of perfect ballots, evidence of technological manipulation of the vote, and even video of women pulling suitcases from under tables after a staged pipe burst evacuation, and of ballot workers shoving the same ballots through the machines repeatedly coinciding with an impossible spike in votes all for Biden), said all (of the 63) cases were dismissed because "courts threw out the cases on the democrats 'talking points'technicalities many of which were pulled from the dustbin of legal history"
I'm not sure Alito can be directly implicated. They chose Gohmert to lead to injunction to get Alito to rule, but you'd have to prove Alito was consciously part of the plan.
bucolic_frolic
(43,803 posts)He has not upheld the Constitution of the US. He's working against it.
Martin68
(23,208 posts)I hope there is such evidence in one form or another, but I rather doubt it. In any event, Powell should be questioned on the basis of this interview.
Lucky Luciano
(11,275 posts)FakeNoose
(33,209 posts)Sidney Powell Implicates Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, and Justice Alito In Plot To Overturn The Election
(Posted by Babylonsister who normally seems to be on top of things. )
OP link points to Politicus USA: https://www.politicususa.com/2021/09/26/sidney-powell-implicates-kevin-mccarthy-steve-scalise-and-justice-alito-in-plot-to-overturn-the-election.html
Wasn't this when the Mueller investigation was just starting to heat up? I seem to recall that we were getting lots of "Mueller news" back in those days.
Emile
(23,716 posts)Traurigkeit
(777 posts)redqueen
(115,113 posts)Fucking hell
Trailrider1951
(3,419 posts)Bar none.
Silent Type
(3,256 posts)Or, was Powell just saying they expected/hoped Alito would agree with their plan.
Whatever, glad Pelosi was there to make sure it wouldn't happen.
TBF
(32,234 posts)they see her as foiling their coop.
They should ALL be in jail for 30 years - not just the one who attacked Paul.
Alito disgusts me.