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muriel_volestrangler

(101,502 posts)
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:15 PM May 17

Alito was poised to stop Pence counting Electoral College votes on Jan 7; Pelosi foiled this




"This new interview by Powell is interesting. It suggests that the purpose of the insurrection was to DELAY the electoral college certification to give Alito time to intervene on this legal challenge. But, Powell says they didn’t anticipate Pelosi reconvening Congress that day."

If you don't want to watch the video on Twitter, Sidney Powell admitted it in writing on this wingnut website: https://defendingtherepublic.org/why-pelosi/

Timeline:
Sat Jan 2: 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals throws out Gohmert’s and several Arizona Republicans’ lawsuit seeking to force Pence to help throw the election to President Donald Trump next week when Congress meets to count the Electoral College votes.
Wed Jan 6: Powell, Gohmert and the others file for an injunction at SCOTUS. Powell's account, with her italics showing what she thought was important (she, of course, claimed it was a "democrats' coup" because she's a lying idiot):

We filed for an injunction at SCOTUS on January 6th, the day of the electoral count. We filed electronically and had a congressman deliver the paper filing required by SCOTUS. The Congressman was turned back by Capitol Hill Police, due to the unrest. We succeeded in getting the case docketed at 3:51 pm on January 6th.

Given Pelosi’s participation as amicus, she would receive notice of the Gohmert filing for an injunction with the Supreme Court. She would understand that Justice Alito could alone enter an injunction against use of the Electoral Count Act because he is the Circuit Justice for Louie Gohmert’s district.

Abandoning any concern for mass covid infection from the deplorables in the Capitol, Pelosi fired her political kill shot: she shockingly announced at 6:30 pm that members would resume the count at 8 pm—just hours after Michael Byrd killed Ashley Babbitt and demonstrators were still in the Capitol.

Notably, Pelosi’s rush to restart at 8 pm did not prevent the process’ continuation to January 7th. Members could have gone home to rest and resumed the vote early in the morning without losing a day. In other words, nothing would have changed regarding the date of the completion of the count. The absurdity of driving Congress to complete a process amidst such unrest was driven by something entirely different.

Speaker Pelosi had to act quickly to prevent Justice Alito from enjoining application of the Electoral Count Act and throwing a big wrench in the democrats’ coup.


Thur Jan 7: Alito denies the application, because it's too fucking late, ha-ha.

Powell felt confident that Alito would give the injunction, and is really pissed off that Pelosi saw what was happening, and made sure the count resumed that evening, and not the next day when Alito could have played his part.

Kudos to LetMyPeopleVote for spotting the tweet about this back in Sept 2021: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215897554#post29 . I don't think I noticed anything about this at the time. I've seen it now because Roy Edroso posted about it today:

The absolutely bugfuck crazy story of Mrs. Sam Alito and the Upside-Down Flag. Three things make it even crazier: First, that Justice Alito ratted out (or passed the blame onto) his own wife to the Times; second, that per Sidney Powell’s testimony Alito was lined up to assist the Jan. 6 insurrection that his distress flag portended; and third, that Alito ran back to the Times to bitch that his wife had to wave the insurrection flag because one of his neighbors put up a sign with a swear word on it.

https://alicublog.blogspot.com/2024/05/friday-round-horn-hate-rally-round-flag.html

Thank goodness Pelosi was so damn good at her job.
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Alito was poised to stop Pence counting Electoral College votes on Jan 7; Pelosi foiled this (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler May 17 OP
Jebus God. Treason at the highest levels. Irish_Dem May 17 #1
Very Coordinated too underpants May 17 #8
Well planned, well funded, and organized at the highest levels. Irish_Dem May 17 #11
And very many of these criminals are still markodochartaigh May 17 #21
Yes, and they have had a dry run. Irish_Dem May 17 #26
They will not orangecrush May 17 #71
I doubt they will roll over and play nice. Irish_Dem May 17 #83
They are evil to the core, no doubt about that at all, but, what they seem to misunderstand MarineCombatEngineer May 17 #89
They are in for the shock of their lives. Irish_Dem May 17 #93
Democrats will do orangecrush May 17 #98
I've always said..... AZ8theist May 18 #105
Yes. And Americans are quite different from Russian and Chinese citizens. Irish_Dem May 18 #106
That's why we have to VOTE, and make sure everybody around us does, too! calimary May 17 #94
They don't need to have him in office. wnylib May 18 #99
It is unfortunate there isn't a Remo. LiberalFighter May 17 #32
Heads need to roll, on this fake insurrection by all of these people. They need to be ID'ed, arrested and SWBTATTReg May 17 #56
I wish it were just trump to blame. Biophilic May 17 #59
The DOJ has focused on the foot soldiers. Irish_Dem May 17 #86
Yes. The political will isn't there, I guess. SWBTATTReg May 18 #120
If you are a member of congress or a judge you can commit treason. Irish_Dem May 18 #121
If they start going after the congrss and senate members who helped lindysalsagal May 17 #60
I think this is why the DOJ has given MOC a pass. Irish_Dem May 17 #87
I always thought the Capitol Police were betrayed, set up to fail, & hung out to dry. elocs May 17 #85
I think that is a given. Irish_Dem May 17 #90
I think there is at least ONE reason why the investigation did not go to the highest levels... Shipwack May 18 #127
I have said exactly the same thing. A deal was cut. Irish_Dem May 18 #128
This message was self-deleted by its author FelineOverlord May 18 #100
The breadth of is astounding n/t hibbing May 17 #24
If this were a movie, no one would believe it for a minute. Irish_Dem May 17 #28
I keep thinking I can't be shocked... FalloutShelter May 17 #52
Same here. Irish_Dem May 17 #84
Whixh is why ALL of those who aided & abetted, including powell & alio onetexan May 21 #132
Permanent Pee-residency Kid Berwyn May 17 #25
Pretty incompetent treason, though. malthaussen May 17 #57
No. They were very close. Irish_Dem May 17 #81
Unbelievable, Nancy Pelosi is a bad ass hero. She saved the ACA and a little over 10 years later she saves our Democracy Demsrule86 May 17 #2
We already knew she was a bad ass hero. ShazzieB May 17 #10
She so wonderful... Demsrule86 May 17 #20
Was trying to kill her husband revenge for spoiling the GOP plot? Irish_Dem May 17 #31
I don't know. They hate her and she ruined their insurrection...it is possible Demsrule86 May 17 #46
She not only ruined their insurrection, but outsmarted them. Irish_Dem May 17 #47
She did didn't she? She is a smart badass! It seems like that guy who did it could have been manipulated. Demsrule86 May 17 #55
We keep hearing about all the GOP/Trump plots and subplots. Irish_Dem May 17 #80
He was coming after Nancy gab13by13 May 17 #58
True. One wonders if this guy was manipulated into doing this? I usually would not even wonder about this. Demsrule86 May 17 #67
And they continue to foment their coup malaise May 17 #3
Exactly. All of those "tourists" were just a distraction. mjvpi May 17 #13
God I hope so. COL Mustard May 17 #27
We cannot say with any certainly it will fail again. Irish_Dem May 17 #35
This JustAnotherGen May 17 #66
They don't have as much power as they did before. Demsrule86 May 17 #70
We see the opposite. Irish_Dem May 18 #114
NOW, we know for sure the Supreme Court is our enemy. (wern't sure before) bluestarone May 18 #113
Yes I hope to God someone is developing a strategy to defeat our domestic traitors. Irish_Dem May 18 #115
Thank God for Speaker Emerita Pelosi. The insurrectionists Powell, Gomert and Alite... brush May 17 #4
"Justice" Alito should be tarred and feathered Blue Owl May 17 #5
Outmaneuvered by a woman Retrograde May 17 #6
If Alito was a decent human being and patriotic American, he would resign and PufPuf23 May 17 #7
America needs to HOUND him to resign! lastlib May 17 #33
And he is obviously not a patriotic American. Biophilic May 17 #61
Let's go Alitooooo !!! Seinan Sensei May 17 #62
Powell described a plot, a conspiracy, to overthrow the constitutional order of this country. Trust_Reality May 18 #116
Gohmert/Alito connection is an eye opener duckworth969 May 17 #9
Shocking..I doubt they could have raised a legal challenge. There were 60+ cases, some heard by SCOTUS PortTack May 17 #12
I think the issue is that Alito could have delayed certification, by himself. yardwork May 17 #50
Exactly Farmer-Rick May 17 #79
I think Alito is not their stooge. He is clearly undermining Trust_Reality May 18 #117
On January 7th Alito could have stopped the count by taking the case...and it is being said it was part of the plot... Demsrule86 May 17 #68
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe May 17 #14
Thank You Nancy Pelosi onethatcares May 17 #15
"damn good at her job"? She was Molly Pitcher when it counted. bucolic_frolic May 17 #16
That's why he flew the flag upside down. When she outfoxed him, it WAS a dire emergency (to him). Wonder Why May 17 #17
Keeps getting worse. Joinfortmill May 17 #18
When tsf is replaced by Kemp at the repub convention in July... rubbersole May 17 #74
I'm now revisiting my anger. Boomerproud May 17 #19
KICK for visability Demsrule86 May 17 #22
Nancy understands these criminals. MOMFUDSKI May 17 #23
Is it pure speculation that Justice Alito would gone along with this? Kaleva May 17 #29
The SC installed Bush into the WH. Irish_Dem May 17 #37
Yet you seem to trust crackpot Powell Kaleva May 17 #78
Well, I wondered, but she seems to put a lot of emphasis in Alito getting to make the decision alone muriel_volestrangler May 17 #39
Alito wasn't helpful in efforts to overturn 2020 election Kaleva May 17 #91
Someday, G-d willing, there will be a movie Freddie May 17 #30
Alito needs to resign immediately! ananda May 17 #34
No wonder Biden gave her the Medal of Freedom. Irish_Dem May 17 #36
Something has to be done to this bastard bluestarone May 17 #38
I hope to live to see the book & movie: "How Nancy Pelosi Saved Our Democracy" ... Hekate May 17 #40
I am going to say this Prince99 May 17 #41
Alito and Thomas are clearly corrupt but also Chief Justice Roberts has lost all credibility. His legacy walkingman May 17 #42
Thinking the SAME here, except i'm not sure about Roberts yet. bluestarone May 17 #49
Alito and Thomas would not get away with their crimes without Roberts. Traurigkeit May 17 #54
My sense is that Roberts is pretty much one of them, just more subtle. Trust_Reality May 18 #118
Don't forget... GiqueCee May 18 #109
Speaker Emeritus and Greatest American Hero Pelosi usonian May 17 #43
It's becoming more difficult by the day to keep the conservative brand from looking spoiled and spotty. Torchlight May 17 #44
Yes, this has been known. Nancy Pelosi saved our democracy. yardwork May 17 #45
It wasn't Pelosi's aides NanaCat May 18 #104
K&R! jmbar2 May 17 #48
Nancy Ladythatvotesblue May 17 #51
This is why all the Federal Trials are being delayed. If the US DoJ can ask TSF what happened to create th Jan 6th, 2021 Traurigkeit May 17 #53
This scares the crap out of me karin_sj May 17 #63
When you know Alito was gonna give them the whitehouse lindysalsagal May 17 #64
Good idea... Demsrule86 May 17 #72
Nancy Pelosi saved us so many ways. mahina May 17 #65
Nancy P Botany May 17 #69
Traitor Alito. That's my takeaway. oasis May 17 #73
Her being so damn good at her job that she saved the republic... Trueblue Texan May 17 #75
Can't Believe I Have to Ask This... DET May 17 #76
Why should the filing be based on Gohmert's district? LiberalFighter May 17 #77
I just don't know what to say anymore. grumpyduck May 17 #82
I hate to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory... brooklynite May 17 #88
Yes, so investigate the big picture for evidence of conspiracy. Trust_Reality May 18 #119
Fuck these traitors. All of them Evolve Dammit May 17 #92
I still wonder what part Stefanik played in the coup mgardener May 17 #95
Powell practically implicated Alito on camera DFW May 17 #96
She didn't provide any evidence Kaleva May 18 #101
They are so incapable of doing their jobs, soldierant May 17 #97
Pelosi is a heroine Blue Owl May 18 #102
Not even John Grisham. a mastermind in crafting legal thrillers, could come up with this. tulipsandroses May 18 #103
Repubes tried to SUCKER America BoRaGard May 18 #107
God bless Nancy Pelosi!! MaryMagdaline May 18 #108
Powell appears crazy or kool-aid drunk elias7 May 18 #110
Soapy Sam was the Kingmaker bucolic_frolic May 18 #111
This narrative is believable, but requires more evidence of Alito's role than Powell's say-so. Martin68 May 18 #112
Execute them all. Death penalty would be great here. Lucky Luciano May 18 #122
Also this posted on DU back on 9-26-21 FakeNoose May 18 #123
Roberts needs to clean up his court. Emile May 18 #124
"Justice" Roberts needs to be Thrown off this court. Traurigkeit May 18 #131
Nancy needs another bunch of flowers redqueen May 18 #125
Ms Pelosi is the best damn Speaker this country has ever had Trailrider1951 May 18 #126
Don't doubt Alito would have signed off, but is there any evidence this was arranged with him beforehand? Or Silent Type May 18 #129
Now I understand why they hate Pelosi - and by extension her husband - TBF May 18 #130

underpants

(183,373 posts)
8. Very Coordinated too
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:38 PM
May 17

Jesus, Nancy and Steny and I’m sure Hakeem was in there thought of every angle.

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
11. Well planned, well funded, and organized at the highest levels.
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:44 PM
May 17

- Mike Flynn got his active duty brother at the Pentagon to ward off any calls for help.
- Somebody got to the Supreme Court.
- Members of Congress helped with blueprints, tours the days before, location of emergency buttons, etc.
- Someone arranged for no back up for the Capitol Police despite their desperate calls.

No wonder why they all want to shut down J6 investigations.

The treason goes up to the highest levels.

This is the stuff we know about.
There is more, much more.


MarineCombatEngineer

(12,629 posts)
89. They are evil to the core, no doubt about that at all, but, what they seem to misunderstand
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:27 PM
May 17

is that there are millions of us combat veterans who are liberal or just plain fed up with the lawlessness of the so called "militias" who will fight them.

They think we're a bunch of pussies because we're liberals, but those of us who have experience with urban warfare will oppose them with whatever it takes.

Good to talk to you Irish_Dem.

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
93. They are in for the shock of their lives.
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:31 PM
May 17

When the liberals decide they have had enough and fight back and fight like hell.
Intelligent and well trained individuals like yourself as compared to the MAGA pretend
soldiers who have watched a civil war militia video.

Hi MCE, I am so glad to see you!

orangecrush

(19,781 posts)
98. Democrats will do
Fri May 17, 2024, 11:57 PM
May 17

What decent people have always done.

They will do everything they can to live in peaceful coexistence with all.

Until they can't.

Then they will do what they have to do.

Bank on that.

AZ8theist

(5,609 posts)
105. I've always said.....
Sat May 18, 2024, 03:50 AM
May 18

In a country AWASH with guns.....

Does the Reich Wing think THEY are the only ones who will use them???

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
106. Yes. And Americans are quite different from Russian and Chinese citizens.
Sat May 18, 2024, 04:44 AM
May 18

Putin and Xi who work with the GOP to undermine our democracy assume that
all Americans can be indoctrinated like their citizens.

But Chinese and Russia citizens have been under autocratic rule for centuries.
They know nothing else.

American citizens have had a long taste of freedom.
And been taught the value of a democratic form of government.

The US is the greatest democracy in the history of the world.
It won't go down without a fight.

wnylib

(22,038 posts)
99. They don't need to have him in office.
Sat May 18, 2024, 12:01 AM
May 18

There are many ways to bring down the government system in order to take control. I've never been in the military or in a sport where I was required to develop a strategy, so if I can think of ways to take control, you can be sure that the fascists who surround Trump have a plan.

They will do whatever it takes to gain control of the country, either during the vote casting and counting, or afterward if they don't succeed in rigging the vote outcome.

If they manage to rig the outcome successfully, there will be a minimum of violence, except to respond to protests of their takeover.

If they don't succeed in rigging the votes
in their favor, there will be violence against infrastructure as well as against select people.







SWBTATTReg

(22,433 posts)
56. Heads need to roll, on this fake insurrection by all of these people. They need to be ID'ed, arrested and
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:09 PM
May 17

charged, all of them, and then taken to trial, and those in the Supreme Court, need to lose their jobs as they proven to be traitors to the entire process that has been followed for years and years, in counting the votes, and certifying the next president of the US.

tRUMP has infected all of these people in his pell-mell drive to win at any cost, even cheating right and left.

Biophilic

(3,806 posts)
59. I wish it were just trump to blame.
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:16 PM
May 17

But more and more it sounds like a very large group of diverse people attempting to take over our government and nation. Trump seems to be just a figurehead.

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
86. The DOJ has focused on the foot soldiers.
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:23 PM
May 17

Not the higher ups, the planners, organizers and funding sources.

lindysalsagal

(20,914 posts)
60. If they start going after the congrss and senate members who helped
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:16 PM
May 17

We'd likely lose dozens of legislators. It would be chaos, trying to legislate while keeping the perpetrators out. Still, we should prosecute.

elocs

(22,717 posts)
85. I always thought the Capitol Police were betrayed, set up to fail, & hung out to dry.
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:21 PM
May 17

How close we were to losing our country that day. Thankfully we had smart people like Pelosi who had our back.

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
90. I think that is a given.
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:27 PM
May 17

They were set up and left to fend for themselves.

They desperately called for backup and no one came.
Higher ups said it was a "communication mistake."

Americans across the country were watching it on TV but not one person
in DC in a position of authority could see it and send in some help?

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Heads should roll, but probably not.

Yep we came close to a true catastrophe.

Shipwack

(2,202 posts)
127. I think there is at least ONE reason why the investigation did not go to the highest levels...
Sat May 18, 2024, 04:25 PM
May 18
No wonder why they all want to shut down J6 investigations.

The treason goes up to the highest levels.


Liz Cheney was/is playing her own game. She doesn't care about the little fish caught in the nets.

Her sole concern was that no Republican members of congress were shown to be involved.

I admit to having no proof, but to my mind the investigations abruptly stop at a certain point. My theory is that Liz's price for being a cooperative member of the committee was guaranteeing that top people were not implicated.

She did this not because she likes any of those who planned the insurrection. She just wanted to protect the Republican brand. Proving that congressional Republicans were involved would definitely cause ripples that would last until the upcoming November elections.

Not that any of those members appreciated that she was running interference for them...

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
128. I have said exactly the same thing. A deal was cut.
Sat May 18, 2024, 04:34 PM
May 18

The proof is in what happened.

A deal was cut with the MOC, DOJ, Cheney, J6 committee.

Cheney was able go forward with the J6 investigation as long as no MOC were mentioned. Congress and the DOJ would not investigate MOC.

Yes she could care less about the GOP MOC who were involved in J6.
She wants to protect the GOP brand and electability.

Response to underpants (Reply #8)

onetexan

(13,129 posts)
132. Whixh is why ALL of those who aided & abetted, including powell & alio
Tue May 21, 2024, 04:37 AM
May 21

Need to go to prison. This is treason at its worst.

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
81. No. They were very close.
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:16 PM
May 17

Only seconds away from getting Pence and Pelosi.

And if Pelosi had not figured out their plans, they could have carried it out.

Next time they won't make any mistakes.
This was the dry run.

Demsrule86

(69,027 posts)
2. Unbelievable, Nancy Pelosi is a bad ass hero. She saved the ACA and a little over 10 years later she saves our Democracy
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:26 PM
May 17

Fuck Justice Alito...traitor and bigot

ShazzieB

(16,827 posts)
10. We already knew she was a bad ass hero.
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:43 PM
May 17

But on January 6, she showed that she was even more bad ass and more heroic than we had even imagined!

She deserves a medal. She deserves ALL the medals!

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
31. Was trying to kill her husband revenge for spoiling the GOP plot?
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:09 PM
May 17

I would not have suggested this a month ago.

But naivety is no longer an option.

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
47. She not only ruined their insurrection, but outsmarted them.
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:41 PM
May 17

And did it very quickly.

A woman outsmarted them.
With one hand tied behind her back.

That had to smart.

Then they come after her and her husband.

Demsrule86

(69,027 posts)
55. She did didn't she? She is a smart badass! It seems like that guy who did it could have been manipulated.
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:07 PM
May 17

I love Nancy!

Demsrule86

(69,027 posts)
67. True. One wonders if this guy was manipulated into doing this? I usually would not even wonder about this.
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:29 PM
May 17

mjvpi

(1,452 posts)
13. Exactly. All of those "tourists" were just a distraction.
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:45 PM
May 17

January 6th was a flat out coup attempt. When the top court in the land is stacked, the coup is lingering in a half state. We are unable to prosecute the flagrant attempt, let alone dig out the rot. Vote like our country depends on it!

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
35. We cannot say with any certainly it will fail again.
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:11 PM
May 17

They had a dry run, saw the problem areas.
And have time to fix those.

The next time has a higher chance of being successful.

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
114. We see the opposite.
Sat May 18, 2024, 11:04 AM
May 18

-We see every week that the MAGA power base is wider and deeper than we realized.
-There is deep MAGA support across two branches of government and the media.
-The US Supreme Court is in Maga's pocket.
-The corruption and treason at the highest levels is undeniable.
-We learn more about the Chinese and Russian interference and involvement in our politicians and elections.

bluestarone

(17,275 posts)
113. NOW, we know for sure the Supreme Court is our enemy. (wern't sure before)
Sat May 18, 2024, 10:57 AM
May 18

Dangerous times ahead, that's for sure. They could push us ALL to our limit. Then what? When we know the COURTS are our enemy, we have to have a plan.

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
115. Yes I hope to God someone is developing a strategy to defeat our domestic traitors.
Sat May 18, 2024, 11:05 AM
May 18

We are going to need it.

brush

(54,212 posts)
4. Thank God for Speaker Emerita Pelosi. The insurrectionists Powell, Gomert and Alite...
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:28 PM
May 17

couldn't slip their dirty deeds past her.

PufPuf23

(8,914 posts)
7. If Alito was a decent human being and patriotic American, he would resign and
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:38 PM
May 17

apologize.

Alito is not a decent human being.

Alito should be impeached, even if the attempt fails for lack of votes.

Needs to be on record for history books.

Initiate Alito's impeachment Monday.

lastlib

(23,512 posts)
33. America needs to HOUND him to resign!
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:10 PM
May 17

Every elected official who cares for democracy (rules out repuglikans) must call for his IMMEDIATE resignation! Blast him from every side until he is GONE! He is absolutely unworthy to continue to hold his seat--in fact the only thing he is worthy to hold at this point is a cot in a cell.

Trust_Reality

(1,735 posts)
116. Powell described a plot, a conspiracy, to overthrow the constitutional order of this country.
Sat May 18, 2024, 11:10 AM
May 18

She is suggesting that Alito was a player in the conspiracy - which absolutely needs to be investigated to its full depth. Many others involved as well. It may be that we citizens need to have the DOJ's back because this is a big deal.

duckworth969

(747 posts)
9. Gohmert/Alito connection is an eye opener
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:39 PM
May 17

Man, we came so close to disaster. As if it wasn’t bad enough.

SC still trying their shit too.

PortTack

(32,901 posts)
12. Shocking..I doubt they could have raised a legal challenge. There were 60+ cases, some heard by SCOTUS
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:44 PM
May 17

That all concluded that the election was fair. Powell said a lot of things that were lies…

Not defending that scum alito…just looking back at the facts

yardwork

(61,913 posts)
50. I think the issue is that Alito could have delayed certification, by himself.
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:48 PM
May 17

Alito is the USSC justice for Gohmert's district, so Alito could have acted alone to temporarily halt the certification.

The ensuing chaos would have given the GOP time to reinstall Trump, using the Capitol riot as an excuse. It worked in 2000 with much less...

Farmer-Rick

(10,306 posts)
79. Exactly
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:07 PM
May 17

Alito was just the stooge who would stop the certification. This would give the fascists time to blockade the white house? Use the insurrection act? Plan a few assassinations?

They will have a tougher time this time around because they don't have the Senate and Presidency to plot their insurrection. Now we need to get back the House and fix the f*cking traitors on the Supremes.

Trust_Reality

(1,735 posts)
117. I think Alito is not their stooge. He is clearly undermining
Sat May 18, 2024, 11:16 AM
May 18

and delaying justice for Trump at every turn.

Demsrule86

(69,027 posts)
68. On January 7th Alito could have stopped the count by taking the case...and it is being said it was part of the plot...
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:32 PM
May 17

Eventually, it gets thrown into the House and we lose. We don't have as many states. You only needed Alito.

onethatcares

(16,275 posts)
15. Thank You Nancy Pelosi
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:47 PM
May 17

YOU are a true Patriot and upholder of the Constitution.

I don't have the words to express my thoughts. Thank You.

rubbersole

(6,827 posts)
74. When tsf is replaced by Kemp at the repub convention in July...
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:45 PM
May 17

...phase 2 of the oligarch takeover will have begun. tsf will never be 'elected' and the distraction he'll create will be a smokescreen for the states to 'choose' a president. I hope I'm so wrong. But the wingnuts aren't hiding their intentions. Unlimited money will do that for you.

Boomerproud

(8,024 posts)
19. I'm now revisiting my anger.
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:54 PM
May 17

Contempt for all involved and cannot praise Speaker Nancy Pelosi for her bravery and brilliance that fateful day. Maybe now the msm will finally focus on the perpetrators at the top. I personally think the story is too widespread and frightening for the whole truth to come out.

Kaleva

(36,499 posts)
29. Is it pure speculation that Justice Alito would gone along with this?
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:06 PM
May 17

Powell, as the evidence shows, was and is clearly out of touch with reality. What would work in Fantasy Land won't likely work in the real world

Irish_Dem

(49,592 posts)
37. The SC installed Bush into the WH.
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:15 PM
May 17

Alito is despicable and corrupt.

Not hard to speculate.

2 plus 2 equals 4.

Kaleva

(36,499 posts)
78. Yet you seem to trust crackpot Powell
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:06 PM
May 17

None of her plans worked but you think this one could have if it had not been for Pelosi.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,502 posts)
39. Well, I wondered, but she seems to put a lot of emphasis in Alito getting to make the decision alone
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:19 PM
May 17

If it were just a gripe that the count was completed before "the Supreme Court" could interfere, it might have been wishful thinking on her part. But she notes that because it was Gohmert, they knew it would be Alito who saw it first. And given the contempt Alito has been shown to have for democracy since, it seems believable.

Kaleva

(36,499 posts)
91. Alito wasn't helpful in efforts to overturn 2020 election
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:28 PM
May 17

"Explaining the Supreme Court’s ruling denying Trump and how Alito and Thomas didn’t dissent"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/12/politics/texas-pennsylvania-supreme-court-alito-thomas-explained/index.html

".Supreme Court Rejects GOP Bid To Reverse Pennsylvania Election Results"

"The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice [Samuel] Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied," said the court's one-sentence order, which did not suggest any dissent among the nine justices."

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/944230517/supreme-court-rejects-gop-bid-to-reverse-pennsylvania-election-results

Hekate

(91,406 posts)
40. I hope to live to see the book & movie: "How Nancy Pelosi Saved Our Democracy" ...
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:21 PM
May 17

Highlights to include her simultaneously hiding for her life and co-ordinating the federal government response, cool as a cucumber.



Prince99

(54 posts)
41. I am going to say this
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:25 PM
May 17

Trump will lose this November and it's that simple. They know it! However, the apparatus and set up is all in motion folks. I hope we are prepared. Let's count the ways:

1. Sell off of top secret documents
2. High level dignitaries visiting Mar Barfo
3. Gas prices
4. Middle east conflict
5. Ukraine funding
6. LIV Golf - money laundering
7. Supreme Court decisions
8. Recent voter court filings
9. Press surrogates - Tur/Haggerman
10 .J6 dry run

Maybe I watched too many Netflix/Prime thrillers but its all connected. Why do I feel our elected officials are out taking a nap and not calling out the obvious or at least casting the concern that way public discourse can start the conversation.

walkingman

(7,812 posts)
42. Alito and Thomas are clearly corrupt but also Chief Justice Roberts has lost all credibility. His legacy
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:28 PM
May 17

will be someone that ignored the corruption and unethical behavior by the court.

bluestarone

(17,275 posts)
49. Thinking the SAME here, except i'm not sure about Roberts yet.
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:47 PM
May 17

Alito and Thomas FOR SURE!! Plus Thomas's wife. Roberts, i feel is losing his power. (if he had any) THIS court could destroy us, the way it is now. We are so close to a civil war IF this court continues it course they have selected. I do not have the answer, BUT these judges need to be HOUNDED every where they go (LEGALLY i mean)

Trust_Reality

(1,735 posts)
118. My sense is that Roberts is pretty much one of them, just more subtle.
Sat May 18, 2024, 11:33 AM
May 18

I remember observing that during the impeachment hearings, he very much seemed to be acting as a useful stooge for the Republicans.

We need to help make the reputation of the "Roberts Court" something that lives in infamy.

GiqueCee

(716 posts)
109. Don't forget...
Sat May 18, 2024, 08:40 AM
May 18

... that Roberts was one of the mob that stormed the count in Florida during "The Night of the Hanging Chads", before the Rehnquist Court had even handed down its stay, which was pivotal in stealing the election from Al Gore. I wouldn't trust that sonofabitch any further than I could throw my truck.

usonian

(10,188 posts)
43. Speaker Emeritus and Greatest American Hero Pelosi
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:31 PM
May 17

Kept hope and democracy alive for four years of treason and destruction.



And was acting President when Putin's Puppet was busy watching the conspiracy play out.




Torchlight

(3,586 posts)
44. It's becoming more difficult by the day to keep the conservative brand from looking spoiled and spotty.
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:32 PM
May 17

And it's often an eye-opener watching the "it may not smell good, but it doesn't smell bad either" routine followed by a few, "but maybe she meant this..." coworkers do their tired schtick, trying their level best to keep trump's nose above water. Bless thier little idiot hearts; they just need more hugs.

yardwork

(61,913 posts)
45. Yes, this has been known. Nancy Pelosi saved our democracy.
Fri May 17, 2024, 06:33 PM
May 17

Her aides grabbed the buses with the votes, and Nancy reconvened Congress that night. She knew what was at stake.

The Republicans didn't expect that.

NanaCat

(2,028 posts)
104. It wasn't Pelosi's aides
Sat May 18, 2024, 01:40 AM
May 18

A Senate aide saw the danger to the process, and took it upon herself to round up fellow staffers and get those certifications to safety.

We won't know her name for a long time, because releasing it would of course subject her to death threats, but she, too, played an important role in saving our democracy.

Traurigkeit

(777 posts)
53. This is why all the Federal Trials are being delayed. If the US DoJ can ask TSF what happened to create th Jan 6th, 2021
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:01 PM
May 17

insurrection and we will reduce the Years in Prison to seconds, TSF would FLIP SO FAST the laws of gravity will be broken.

The $$$ behind this does not want it to get set into the light.
Wouldn't be surprised if TSF gets offed by the $$$ men if the US DoJ gets too close.

karin_sj

(828 posts)
63. This scares the crap out of me
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:22 PM
May 17

January 6th was practice. Now they know what they need to do and they will be much more efficient. I still believe that Biden will win resoundingly but these people are scoundrels and they will stop at nothing to install King Orange Turd. It's horrendous that we have to deal with this.

lindysalsagal

(20,914 posts)
64. When you know Alito was gonna give them the whitehouse
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:23 PM
May 17

Everything else finally makes sense. Their fealty to Trump was the guarantee, and now he's promising to hide their crimes when he returns to office. This HAS to make the ms media NOW. I'm sending it to Rachel.

Trueblue Texan

(2,473 posts)
75. Her being so damn good at her job that she saved the republic...
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:50 PM
May 17

is the reason I don't believe in term limits. What would we have done without her?

DET

(1,364 posts)
76. Can't Believe I Have to Ask This...
Fri May 17, 2024, 07:58 PM
May 17

What are the odds that this gets buried by the press? After all, it has been so far. Plus, of course, what did Alito know and when did he know it?

grumpyduck

(6,322 posts)
82. I just don't know what to say anymore.
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:18 PM
May 17

These people are miles below disgusting. Fuck them all.

Alito should be thrown in the worst prison on earth.

brooklynite

(95,390 posts)
88. I hate to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory...
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:25 PM
May 17

...but what SIDNEY POWELL imagines MIGHT have happened if the Congress hadn't resumed counting the electoral votes isn't a smoking gun.

Trust_Reality

(1,735 posts)
119. Yes, so investigate the big picture for evidence of conspiracy.
Sat May 18, 2024, 11:44 AM
May 18

I see probable cause here, there, everywhere.

Or, maybe it is all just a bunch of anti-democracy, racist, religious radicals of groups and individuals all going in the same direction.

mgardener

(1,830 posts)
95. I still wonder what part Stefanik played in the coup
Fri May 17, 2024, 09:07 PM
May 17

She and McCarthy met with Trumpmin the Oval office on Jan 4th.

DFW

(54,706 posts)
96. Powell practically implicated Alito on camera
Fri May 17, 2024, 09:23 PM
May 17

It certainly seems like enough to warrant a criminal probe into Alito’s part. This is far beyond an impeachable offense, if there’s anything to it, and by naming Alito in public as their co-conspirator, I don’t see how this could be construed as a misunderstanding. I think that Alito might be considering a longer stay on Leonard Leo’s yacht next time, for example, as in a permanent cabin residence while moored at Grand Cayman.

Kaleva

(36,499 posts)
101. She didn't provide any evidence
Sat May 18, 2024, 12:30 AM
May 18

She was guessing that Alito would help them.

Like Magahats claiming the election was stolen even though they've been unable to produce any evidence to back up those claims and yet they still want people to believe that it actually happened .

soldierant

(7,069 posts)
97. They are so incapable of doing their jobs,
Fri May 17, 2024, 11:24 PM
May 17

and so easily distracted,, and so easily terrified, that they cannot even comprehend the notion of Pelosi doing hers.

tulipsandroses

(5,167 posts)
103. Not even John Grisham. a mastermind in crafting legal thrillers, could come up with this.
Sat May 18, 2024, 01:18 AM
May 18

It's time to expand the court.

elias7

(4,060 posts)
110. Powell appears crazy or kool-aid drunk
Sat May 18, 2024, 08:56 AM
May 18

Totally shoveling shit Pelosi's way for Pelosi resuming the count so quickly (despite so much covid risk from all the Jan 6ers, despite the killing of Ashley Babbitt, despite keeping everybody up). Then says the only reason for this "absurd" action was to thwart the R's plan to get the filing to Alito (Gohmert's district's assigned judge) who would then suspend the electoral count act, "throwing a big wrench in the Democrat's coup".

She is a total election denier citing a whole lot of discredited hogwash about how the Democrats cheated (hundreds of affidavits, statistical studies proving mathematical impossibilities, disappearance of mail ballots, mysterious appearances of perfect ballots, evidence of technological manipulation of the vote, and even video of women pulling suitcases from under tables after a staged pipe burst evacuation, and of ballot workers shoving the same ballots through the machines repeatedly coinciding with an impossible spike in votes all for Biden), said all (of the 63) cases were dismissed because "courts threw out the cases on the democrats 'talking points'—technicalities many of which were pulled from the dustbin of legal history"

I'm not sure Alito can be directly implicated. They chose Gohmert to lead to injunction to get Alito to rule, but you'd have to prove Alito was consciously part of the plan.

Martin68

(23,208 posts)
112. This narrative is believable, but requires more evidence of Alito's role than Powell's say-so.
Sat May 18, 2024, 10:50 AM
May 18

I hope there is such evidence in one form or another, but I rather doubt it. In any event, Powell should be questioned on the basis of this interview.

FakeNoose

(33,209 posts)
123. Also this posted on DU back on 9-26-21
Sat May 18, 2024, 02:00 PM
May 18
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215895983

Sidney Powell Implicates Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, and Justice Alito In Plot To Overturn The Election

(Posted by Babylonsister who normally seems to be on top of things. )

OP link points to Politicus USA: https://www.politicususa.com/2021/09/26/sidney-powell-implicates-kevin-mccarthy-steve-scalise-and-justice-alito-in-plot-to-overturn-the-election.html

Wasn't this when the Mueller investigation was just starting to heat up? I seem to recall that we were getting lots of "Mueller news" back in those days.

Silent Type

(3,256 posts)
129. Don't doubt Alito would have signed off, but is there any evidence this was arranged with him beforehand? Or
Sat May 18, 2024, 05:12 PM
May 18

Or, was Powell just saying they expected/hoped Alito would agree with their plan.

Whatever, glad Pelosi was there to make sure it wouldn't happen.

TBF

(32,234 posts)
130. Now I understand why they hate Pelosi - and by extension her husband -
Sat May 18, 2024, 05:13 PM
May 18

they see her as foiling their coop.

They should ALL be in jail for 30 years - not just the one who attacked Paul.

Alito disgusts me.

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