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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSM coverage is even worse than usual. Was Nancy Lanza a teacher at the school or not?
Minor point ... in view of the scope of the tragedy.... but it seems to me MSM/police would at least be able to determine this definitively by now.
ASK the surviving staff .
And if the answer is "no"... what was the shooter's "connection to the school"?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)there was a report in an OP the shooter had attended that school. There's also an OP reporting the shooter had a confrontation with four officials at the school a day or two before the shooting. Three of the four officials were killed.
Lasher
(27,675 posts)Lt. J. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police noted in a news conference Saturday that he knew of no reports about Lanza being involved in any altercations at the school.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/15/children-and-adults-gunned-down-in-connecticut-school-massacre/
There is much confusion regarding this tragedy.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)That would be SOP at any school. A crazed person comes to a school one day, you have security there for a few days afterwards.
Lasher
(27,675 posts)It is very helpful in sorting through the misinformation. I linked it downthread but here it is again:
Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Our media so sucks.
Lasher
(27,675 posts)regarding both your observations.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Lasher
(27,675 posts)This can help us decide for ourselves how factual and unbiased the article is.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Lasher
(27,675 posts)There was no connection between Nancy Lanza and the school. Adam Lanza had no known connection either, except that he might have attended there when he was younger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)You are right about commenting how FUBAR the media has been on this one
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Either she worked there or she didn't work there.
Either the staff knew her or did NOT know her.
This ( part of it, anyway) is not complicated.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)I've seen a couple interviewed about the shooting. But if that school had 600 kids, there had to have been 30 or 40 on staff. The district must have clamped down pretty hard on media requests.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Are you saying people are afraid to answer that simple question for fear of repercussions from higher-ups?
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)What other reason could there be for 30+ people to NOT be talking to the media? And you know they're being deluged with requests. I would imagine some are traumatized and don't want to talk to the media. But I also know there are likely to be several who would gladly do so, and probably want to.
retread
(3,766 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)School districts are notoriously strict about employees talking to the media. I would imagine that some of the staff members at this school are not willing to talk to reporters but I also think several would probably willingly do so, thinking it may help. But their employer has told them not to do so.
Paladin
(28,287 posts)Do you think that---just speculating, now---those educators may have a considerable amount of duties to attend to right now and in upcoming days, duties which are traumatic and gut-wrenchingly difficult in nature? Give that some thought.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)School district administrators are probably overwhelmed. But the teachers and other staff - no. What do you think they would be doing?
Lasher
(27,675 posts)The school staff is similarly grieving. It's not the same thing, but I think this is a legitimate factor.
Another thing is, there are good reasons for any organization to channel information through a spokesperson at a time like this. I think you make a good point, though.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Do you know all former employees of your present employer?
arthritisR_US
(7,303 posts)point.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)My husband's best friend grew up in Newtown and did not attend Sandy Hook but played some sports games there as a kid. Newtown is not that big. There was only 4 elementary schools there.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)According to the mother's ex-sister-in-law, she had some kind of issue with the school board about the school's plans for him (no idea what's meant by that) and pulled him out of school to home school him sometime around the 10th grade. The ex-sister-in-law also said that at some time she worked at the school as a classroom aide.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Parents sometimes disagree with programming recommendations made by the school for kids with disabilities. I'm a special ed teacher and the kids I work with are much more likely to be homeschooled than the kids without disabilities. At least that's typical where I teach. I'm not sure about CT.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Adam Lanza's family: Mom liked parlor games, guns; dad, a tax exec, remarried
By Michael Martinez and David Ariosto, CNN Dec 16, 2012
She said Adam Lanza's mother "battled" with the school board and ended up having her son home-schooled. ...
Neighbor Gina McDade said Nancy Lanza was a "stay-at-home mom" and not a teacher or part-time employee of Sandy Hook Elementary, as some media reports stated.
.... The friend said Nancy was devoted to her sons and had been "caring for Adam," but would not provide further details. ....
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Yesterday's NY Times had descriptions provided by HS classmates.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)He's third from the right in this high school yearbook picture.
That's a big home school.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)mentalsolstice
(4,463 posts)In fact it is encouraged by most public school districts, to prevent kids from being too isolated.
tawadi
(2,110 posts)Something smells fishy. I know the mother had "problems" with the school board. So much so that she home schooled her son (the shooter). The reporters need to dig deeper into this. Something is being covered up.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)first we need a investigative reporter. The real back story is our MEDIA's lack of reporting skill sets. Notice the perfect make-up and blow-combed hair styles. Proper clothing color balance. Right backdrop or staging. When the story broke,CNN and some backwater hack newspaper wanted the feed and nothing more,just through shit to the public. What a shame we came this far and the facts are still made from whole cloth of YELLOW JOURNALISM.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)
although the website was probably outdated for this school year because a couple of the slain teachers were not mentioned on there.
Edit: The website appears to be current at the time of the shootings. To recap from the best of my knowledge: A principal (Dawn Hocksprung), a school psychologist (Mary Sherlach), two teacher assistants (Rachel Davino and Anne Marie Murphy), one teacher (Victoria Soto), and one permanent substitute teacher (Lauren Rousseau) were the adult victims at Sandy Hook Elementary School, not counting the killer himself.
Nancy Lanza wasn't on any staff roster and didn't have to work anyway.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I've covered a few chaotic scenes, but 72 hours on...something is raising my cackles. First 36 hours, sure. I get it.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Nancy Lanza was never on it, so she was not a teacher there.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Read my post upthread. Two were teacher assistants, and many school websites don't list teacher aides or assistants on their websites. Often, they are part-time classified employees.
Another one was a permanent substitute teacher. Same thing. The regular teacher was listed.
Lanza wasn't a teacher, period.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)and son by now, other family members. Why do none of them seem to know what this woman did with herself, beyond buy guns and hire a landscaper?
slutticus
(3,428 posts)and in the process end up embarrassing themselves (actually no, they are beyond shame)