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Nevilledog

(51,303 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 11:06 AM Feb 2021

DC attorney general weighs legal viability of charging Trump under local statute



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Kyle Griffin
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Lawyers inside the DC attorney general's office are working to determine if it is legally viable to use district statutes to charge Trump for his role in the insurrection.

DC attorney general weighs legal viability of charging Trump under local statute
Lawyers inside the Washington, DC attorney general's office are working to determine if it is legally viable to use district statutes to charge former President Donald Trump for his alleged role in...
cnn.com
8:00 AM · Feb 14, 2021


https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/dc-attorney-trump/index.html

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DC attorney general weighs legal viability of charging Trump under local statute (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2021 OP
Yes. At least if Trump was not on federal property when he incited the riot. MineralMan Feb 2021 #1
He WAS on federal property for the inciting tweets sobenji Feb 2021 #9
It was reported yesterday that Feds are discussing/coordinating with him. hlthe2b Feb 2021 #2
Good to hear. Nevilledog Feb 2021 #3
Yassss! Find a way! soothsayer Feb 2021 #4
If he was convicted, Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #5
Yep yep soothsayer Feb 2021 #6
Keeping fingers crossed. I sure hope they find a way to charge and go after him. Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #14
Bravo! onetexan Feb 2021 #24
Spoiler alert SledDriver Feb 2021 #7
It's not about "mystical enforcers" Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #8
"should be held accountable" Yes. SledDriver Feb 2021 #10
Your pessimism is duly noted. I am willing to wait for decisions from DOJ, AG's and DA's. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #12
Again...why? Specifically, why? paleotn Feb 2021 #21
Don't agree. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #22
pinning hope bcbink Feb 2021 #30
Should be left to the Feds freepotter Feb 2021 #16
Both viable in my opinion. LiberalFighter Feb 2021 #32
Spoiler alert MyNameGoesHere Feb 2021 #15
At the very least pandr32 Feb 2021 #17
Agree NT bcbink Feb 2021 #31
Why do you think that? paleotn Feb 2021 #19
And let the lawsuits begin PatSeg Feb 2021 #11
Senate Republicans greatly acknowledged the truth in the case against Trump bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #13
DC, Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania. Inciting, interfering; ought to be a felony in there somewhere. rickyhall Feb 2021 #18
I can't wait for all the legal and financial comeupance coming his way n/t KatK Feb 2021 #20
Agreed! crickets Feb 2021 #25
Nor can we all! BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #27
It's the People's House. Every State DA should be party to a indictment against Trump Fla Dem Feb 2021 #23
Best news of the day, without doubt. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #26
What I what to know who/whom is blocking GOPistheEnemy Feb 2021 #28
DC "local" is actually a special DOJ Federal prosecutor. mackdaddy Feb 2021 #29

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
1. Yes. At least if Trump was not on federal property when he incited the riot.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 11:09 AM
Feb 2021

If he was, that would probably prevent those charges from sticking, due to jurisdictional issues. It will be a fine line, legally.

Turin_C3PO

(14,151 posts)
5. If he was convicted,
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 11:56 AM
Feb 2021

the vote would be taken to disqualify him from office and it would succeed. All it takes is a simple majority.

SledDriver

(2,061 posts)
7. Spoiler alert
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:21 PM
Feb 2021

It will not be legally viable to use district statutes to charge Trump for his role in the insurrection.

We really need to drop this fiction that there is going to be some sort of accountability coming to Trump via some mystical enforcer ala Cy Vance, SDNY, sealed indictments, Mueller, etc.

Turin_C3PO

(14,151 posts)
8. It's not about "mystical enforcers"
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:24 PM
Feb 2021

as you put it. It’s about the fact that Donald Trump has broken different laws in different jurisdictions and should be held accountable by our legal system. No mysticism required.

SledDriver

(2,061 posts)
10. "should be held accountable" Yes.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:38 PM
Feb 2021

But... *won't* be held accountable is the reality though.

Trump is effectively above the law. He has not been, nor will he ever be, punished for any of his actions.

We need to stop pinning our hopes on the next promise of some entity swooping in to hold him accountable. We need to stop being so gullible and face reality. It's just not going to happen.

paleotn

(18,015 posts)
21. Again...why? Specifically, why?
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 01:03 PM
Feb 2021

You're still not explaining what kind of "super power" he has? If it's just your opinion, that's fine.

Turin_C3PO

(14,151 posts)
22. Don't agree.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 01:10 PM
Feb 2021

Our DOJ isn’t afraid of Donald Trump. Neither is NY state. Merrick Garland will be leading the DOJ and there’s no reason to believe he won’t hold Trump accountable. You may have no faith in our justice system but I do.

bcbink

(71 posts)
30. pinning hope
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 04:14 PM
Feb 2021

I will pin my hope.
I will pay attention.
If someone tries I will help if possible, support if I can, lead a cheer if nothing else.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
15. Spoiler alert
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:51 PM
Feb 2021

Who fucking cares? If we can't toss his ass in jail keep going after him, his assets, his family, his image his everything. Make him bleed from a thousand paper cuts. Make it toxic to be named trump.

paleotn

(18,015 posts)
19. Why do you think that?
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 01:01 PM
Feb 2021

Is he above the law? Does the NY AG's office know about this? How about GA?

Sorry, but I don't like defeatists. They're defeated only because they quit.

PatSeg

(47,773 posts)
11. And let the lawsuits begin
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:42 PM
Feb 2021

Trump has spent his entire adult life suing people, now he will be on the receiving end. He has made far too many enemies. It was inevitable that it would come back at him eventually and now he can't hide behind the presidency.

bucolic_frolic

(43,530 posts)
13. Senate Republicans greatly acknowledged the truth in the case against Trump
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:48 PM
Feb 2021

Even McConnell, and those who voted to convict. But I took their actions to mean they are not willingly participating in the destruction of their own party. But take heart, the foundations have been dynamited and only the strong parts will remain.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
18. DC, Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania. Inciting, interfering; ought to be a felony in there somewhere.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:57 PM
Feb 2021

A felony conviction is all we need, then he can't even vote. Maybe they get Ivanka the same way. As for the Heartless Boys, I don't know.

Fla Dem

(23,893 posts)
23. It's the People's House. Every State DA should be party to a indictment against Trump
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 01:12 PM
Feb 2021

Inciting a riot and insurrection against every state's Senators and Representatives in the People' House.

 

GOPistheEnemy

(49 posts)
28. What I what to know who/whom is blocking
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 02:24 PM
Feb 2021

the 100% unvarnished truth about Twitler and the Republicans from being released?

Part of America's National Security Apparatus is the NSA or No Such Agency. One of the things they do is monitor and record every single electronic transmission in and out of the USA and they have been doing this for a very long time. A "businessman" with known ties to criminal organizations, world leaders including communists and despots would have been a person of interest to other elements of America's National Security Apparatus who more than likely have all sorts of rather interesting information in the files too. There is no way any of the info pre WH would be destroyed while he was in the WH the gov has too many places to hide stuff all over the world. The people who protect that sort of information are immune from the politics of the day, they protect the real secrets of America they have it all, they need to release it.



mackdaddy

(1,532 posts)
29. DC "local" is actually a special DOJ Federal prosecutor.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 02:35 PM
Feb 2021

I can't say that I totally understand how it all works, but Glen Kirschner was a federal prosecutor who also prosecuted local DC crimes like murder.

Any how there is overlap with the Federal DOJ and DC crimes. And northern District of VA Federal prosecutor covers some of this too.

I still think that Trump has secret Federal pardons for his family and inner circle stashed away to pull out if/when the Feds charge him. And it gets sticky that if he uses a pardon on a federal charge, whether there is double jeopardy on state charges afterward. Manafort just skated on some state charges in NY because of that.

It might be better if State and Local prosecutors file the actual charges, although I would think that the FBI/DOJ could do some investigating and turn over evidence found.

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