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StarsInHerHair

(2,125 posts)
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:50 PM Mar 2012

this woman has an anti birth-control stance & posted it on her blog

http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2012/02/birth-control-vs-self-control/

"Birth control is not just about children. It’s about the spiritual and intellectual temper of a people."

Pardon me-but she is an idiot. A traitor to her own gender. So this bc is 'spiritual' crap is their new meme-yuck!
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Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. Yes she does...
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:55 PM
Mar 2012

And we have a right to be disgusted with it and say so. Hopefully in a respectful manner. Something like this: with all due respect, that is an opinion if codified that could lead to the abject poverty of millions of people and death for a great many. I hope you have deep pockets to help with the care of children that would be born if birth control was not widely available.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
2. So, is she saying it's more "intellectual and spiritual" to bring unwanted
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:52 PM
Mar 2012

children into the world...so it's more "intellectual and spiritual" to not control your own fate and make your own choices?

StarsInHerHair

(2,125 posts)
3. yet she intends to spread this belief
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:55 PM
Mar 2012

& it is spreading to other like-minded Christians. She is also attacking women who go back to work, very much like that Schafly(sp?) woman in the 70s & 80s.

"These are words I have heard frequently: “How can you stand to stay home all day with your children? I could not wait to get back to work after staying home for a few weeks (months or years) with my baby.” This has been said to me by women who are lawyers, engineers, teachers, professors, secretaries, doctors, clerks, and “businesswomen.” They all, including the nursery-school teachers, indicated that they find their paying jobs easier than raising their own children."

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
11. I've seen that battle go both ways
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:47 PM
Mar 2012

Not here, but when I've lurked over at Freeperville some years ago, there used to be some flame wars between the stay-at-home moms and the ones who put their kids in child care, especially when it was not with a blood relative.

Staying at home with a kid isn't for everybody, if you love it and can swing it, then do it. But at least on reich-wing boards, they spend an awful lot of time trying to make themselves feel good by making the other side feel bad.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
5. Just another anti-sex idiot.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:04 PM
Mar 2012

These people amaze me, they see not having sex as 'spiritual' and 'godly', so then get to look down upon anyone else that does have and enjoys having sex.

Sorry that your sex life isn't that great, hon, but that doesn't mean you get to control whatever everyone else is doing.

The anti-birth control crowd is just one more way that these people want to see women being 'punished' for having sex; if they have sex, they should get pregnant and be forced to have a child as punishment for being wanton women.

So afraid that someone, somewhere is actually enjoying life, they want to force the government to make them stop.

Bet her husband uses birth control with his girlfriend.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
12. I'd be willing to wager her uptight little self has an impressive collection of them hidden away.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:55 PM
Mar 2012

Nothing these public scolds do in private surprises me much anymore; in fact, the more public the profession of piety and disapproval, the more I think that they are trying to hide something.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
6. Just because I have a uterus, doesn't mean I have to be an incubator like this group.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:13 PM
Mar 2012

Let everyone do what they want, just stay out of my bedroom, and don't give me any of that self control crap! Sex is enjoyable, God made it that way.

Born to Breed: An Interview With Quiverfull Walkaway Vyckie Garrison


http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2011/06/27/born-breed-interview-quiverfull-walkaway-vyckie-garrison

StarsInHerHair

(2,125 posts)
9. great link on quiverfull, that group wants women to have 1 baby a year, on
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:35 PM
Mar 2012

average until menopause. What gets me is how FLESHLY the no-contraceptive view is, how basically that view denies the spirit of a woman; she is reduced into an incubator, & to hell with her (& all other females) mind. Quiverfulls worship the flesh & the fetus above all others.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
14. That's "natural law". Read up on Robert P. George at Princeton about this. There were some
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 02:01 AM
Mar 2012

posts about him here on this board this week.

Natural Law says sex is for procreation first and to bond the man to the woman in order to raise the children, so women are nothing but incubators and men are their sex dependent slaves.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
10. If God didn't want people to have sex for the fun of it and just to make babies -
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:45 PM
Mar 2012

then why did he make it feel so unbelievably great?

Hmmmm? Answer that lady.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
13. These people have symptoms & causes mixed up. It's not the availability of behavioral options that
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 01:50 AM
Mar 2012

corrode "spiritual and intellectual temper of a people", but, rather, the corroded "spiritual and intellectual temper of a people" that degrade their behavioral decisions.

A spiritually and intellectually healthy people respects themselves and others as individuals, no matter what the behavioral options are.

If people aren't spiritually and intellectually healthy, whose fault is that? In most cases, to one degree or another, parents and such others who claim that authority, i.e. churches and schools.

A mistake that parents, churches, and schools are making about this issue is assuming that a person's locus of control is entirely external, ergo it's the available behavioral options that determine what a person does, not the person's internal sense of identity and dignity.

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