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Last edited Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:10 PM - Edit history (1)
By Steve Benen
In November, Karl Rove's attack operation, Crossroads GPS, took a Bill Clinton quote out of context in order to launch a wildly misleading criticism of President Obama on taxes.
Today, Rove took another Bill Clinton quote of context to launch another wildly misleading criticism of President Obama, this time on counter-terrorism.
Here's what Rove wrote in his new Wall Street Journal column:
Greg Sargent noticed the problem with Rove's dishonesty.
In Rove's telling, Clinton said, "that's the call I would have made. What Clinton actually said was, "I hope that's the call I would have made."
It's almost as if Rove used his column, with his editors' permission, to lie to the public.
But let's take this a little further still, and note the larger Republican goal: Rove and a lot of other folks on the right desperately hope Americans won't consider the strike on bin Laden to be a key Obama accomplishment. They're wrong, but it's clearly part of a larger effort.
Whereas the initial GOP reaction to the bin Laden killing was to try to give Bush/Cheney partial credit for the mission, the new Republican line is that the mission itself was no big deal -- anyone in the Oval Office would have done the same thing, the argument goes.
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http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/22/10811275-rove-picks-the-wrong-fight-over-obl-killing
David Axelrod Slams Karl Rove For Misleading On Osama Bin Laden Mission
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/david-axelrod-slams-karl-rove-for-misleading-on
Updated to add:
Meanwhile, we'll respond with the truth. Like reminding Rove of his own administration's tragic failure to bring Osama bin Laden to justice:
And reminding him that in 2008, John McCain disagreed with Barack Obama's strategy for getting bin Ladenthe strategy that ultimately worked, nearly a decade after Bush and Rove's failure. (Mitt Romney was on John McCain's side, by the way.)
But this isn't just about giving President Obama credit for bringing Osama bin Laden to justice. There's a lot of history that Rove, Romney, & Co. are going to try to erase between now and election day. It's the only way they can win.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076773/-Karl-Rove-says-killing-of-Osama-bin-Laden-not-a-major-achievement-for-President-Obama
onenote
(42,799 posts)and I heard the talking point that "any commander in chief" would have done the same thing. Its all they've got, so don't be surprised to hear it again and again between now and election day.
mnmoderatedem
(3,734 posts)fact is, they were not 100% convinced that the intelligence was accurate, and went through with an operation that could have been a disaster.
They just don't want the president to reap any political reward.
Mz Pip
(27,454 posts)and he had the chance in Tora Bora.
cindyperry2010
(846 posts)gave up on him
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)If so, they are trying to keep Obama from mentioning what they fear would be a major point by Obama against their Terra-Terra theme of the last election. Is Obama capable of keeping us safe?
I've seen them use this tactic before and it was affective.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,450 posts)and Obama was there to take that call- and he MADE the right call! He passed the test that Hillary Clinton first put to him in 2008 IMHO (and she was in fact there to watch it all unfold).
emulatorloo
(44,257 posts)Thank you Supreme Court.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)MCFLIGHTSUIT? After all, isn't the whole reason he went to war in Iraq AND Afghanistan was the to break AlQaeda and get OBL?
mnmoderatedem
(3,734 posts)why does he hate America?
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)"white RW exceptionalism." They lied about the Clintons (still do), they lied about Kerry, they lie about the economy,...just about every policy issue. And they are supported in their lies by talk radio hosts such as Rush and "Fox News" which many ditto heads often cite as primary resources. I am happy to see that the President is finally coming out and calling them on their lies ... and he is doing it in the "belly of the beast."
gulliver
(13,197 posts)...was in office for over seven years while Bin Laden lived it up with his wives and made videotapes attacking the United States. One of these days Republicans are going to start thinking about the misery that results from trying to live lies. If they can still hold with Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh, then Republicans should start asking themselves who they really are.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,450 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:54 PM - Edit history (1)
John McCain and virtually every candidate for POTUS in 2008 basically told Obama that he would be reckless and/or irresponsible to go after Bin Laden in Pakistan if intelligence became available. Giving the order to take out Bin Laden in Pakistan was a HUGE gamble and, frankly, he's lucky that it went down the right way. Had Bin Laden escaped to gloat and/or the Pakistanis captured the Seals or any number of things gone wrong, it would have gone down a MAJOR foreign policy blunder for Obama, perhaps irreparably so. It was about as bold and gutsy a move that he could have made IMHO.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,734 posts)I've always likened it to taking a huge financial gamble, say a huge real estate development which, if it flops, you'd be destitute, and if it succeeds, you're set for life. Though republicans don't want Obama to see one nickel of profit from this risky venture.
Incidentally, Obama downplayed this whole thing about as much as humanly possible, to avoid being perceived as taking a "victory lap", which he never really did. By contrast, we all know how the right wing woud react if a republican president had made this gutsy call. The'd insist on having his likeness on Mount Rushmore the very next day...
deacon
(5,967 posts)spanone
(135,917 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,450 posts)He spent from 2002-2009 relatively unconcerned about OBL and went off on a total tangent in Iraq to get SH.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)As you point out, Romney was on the other side of this issue in 2007. At that time, candidate Obama outlined his policy:
Candidate Romney's response was: "I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours... I don't think those kinds of comments help in this effort to draw more friends to our effort."
Both these passages are from a Reuters story titled "Romney attacks Obama over Pakistan warning", August 4, 2007 -- link here: http://in.reuters.com/article/2007/08/04/idINIndia-28811520070804
In Rove's defense, however, he could point to some evidence that he's right. After Obama's decision to send troops into Pakistan resulted in bin Laden's death, Romney gave the Etch-A-Sketch a shake and said that he would have done "exactly the same thing." http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mitt-romney-bin-busted-candidate-like-myself-would-have-done-bin-laden-raid-except-2007-mitt/
applegrove
(118,870 posts)boat veterans for truth did it to Kerry. Now Rove is trying to pull it on Obama.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,450 posts)Obama got Osama #1 evildoer. I'm trying to figure out a way that even somebody as devious as Rove would be able to spin it into a negative for Obama. HE ended up being the one to pull the trigger on OBL.
As Joe Biden famously said, "It's a BFD!" and people are not likely to forget/minimize it IMHO.