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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 08:07 PM Apr 2014

Deaths, drugs, distress: why marine parks are losing their attraction

Something disquieting happened at SeaWorld marine parks this year. Numbers attending the group's popular US centres between January and March dropped, from 3.5 million in 2013 to 3.05 million this year, a decline of 13%.

Nor is it hard to guess the cause, say wildlife campaigners. They see a clear link between the attendance slide and the release last year of the documentary Blackfish, which told the story of SeaWorld trainer Dawn Brancheau who was killed by Tilikum, a bull orca. The killer whale, it was also revealed, had been involved in the deaths of other individuals while in captivity.

Blackfish focuses on the distress experienced by killer whales who are depicted as complex, highly intelligent creatures which are taken from their families, kept in small pools and given psychotropic drugs to calm them and help them perform tricks that include balancing human trainers on their snouts, rotating in the water to pop music, waving their flippers and tails, and floating on their backs. The film triggered widespread public outrage against marine parks in general and a petition, signed by 1.2 million people, was handed into the California state assembly calling for a ban on killer whale shows. Earlier this month, a bill legalising the ban was put on hold for the next 12 months. Campaigners are still hopeful it will be enacted next year.

It has been an abrupt change in fortune. The cheery family charm of marine parks – institutions that have achieved worldwide popularity and become multimillion dollar industries in recent years – have taken a body blow. For their part, their managers strenuously deny that any of their animals suffer and flatly reject the idea that whales, dolphins and porpoises should no longer be kept captive.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/19/visitors-turn-backs-on-marine-parks

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Deaths, drugs, distress: why marine parks are losing their attraction (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2014 OP
Good! Ringling's Circus of Horrors should be next. flvegan Apr 2014 #1
And horse racing StarryNite Apr 2014 #13
And yet they had their best AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #2
The conservation benefits is a bogus argument Beringia Apr 2014 #3
He said it MattBaggins Apr 2014 #4
LOL AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #8
Don't LoL me then MattBaggins Apr 2014 #11
I would expect a reader to AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #12
Here's what I take away LordGlenconner Apr 2014 #15
Post of the day, this. flvegan Apr 2014 #17
Cool AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #10
They'll be even more popular once they stop mistreating whales and dolphins CreekDog Apr 2014 #6
Well AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #9
Yes, actually, the mistreatment is the whole point of the shows CreekDog Apr 2014 #16
There's a powerful lot of weaseling in the press release Gormy Cuss Apr 2014 #7
Must be nice LordGlenconner Apr 2014 #14
They got fewer people to spend more & declared victory. DirkGently Apr 2014 #5

flvegan

(64,426 posts)
1. Good! Ringling's Circus of Horrors should be next.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 09:20 PM
Apr 2014

I'll never understand people shelling out their hard earned money to directly support animal abuse for the sake of entertainment.

StarryNite

(9,472 posts)
13. And horse racing
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:29 PM
Apr 2014

Horse racing is a brutal industry. Dog racing too but thankfully many states have already banned dog racing.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
2. And yet they had their best
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 09:30 PM
Apr 2014

4th quarter attendance ever last year. All three of the SeaWorld parks located in Orlando combined to report the annual earnings of 2013. Together the parks had the best fourth quarter in attendance, outnumbering the other five parks owned by SeaWorld Entertainment. Since my wife works there, this pleases me. Blackfish was a black eye, but fortunately for conservation efforts worldwide, the public has a short attention span.

http://www.coaster-net.com/news/2360-seaworld-reports-annual-earnings/

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
3. The conservation benefits is a bogus argument
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 10:16 PM
Apr 2014

And why would you want the public to have a short attention span?

http://www.humanesociety.org/assets/pdfs/marine_mammals/case_against_marine_captivity.pdf

Public display facilities with the financial resources, staff capability, and commitment to engage in or support conservation programs for any animal species have always been few in number. The requirements of providing the public with a satisfying recreational experience are often incompatible with those of operating a research or breeding facility (this is the reason for the development of the off-premises breeding facilities associated with a handful of zoos). The claim that conservation is a primary purpose of the public display industry as a whole is highly misleading at best.

MattBaggins

(7,905 posts)
4. He said it
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 10:20 PM
Apr 2014

bolded it even.

Since his wife works there.

His wife's paycheck takes precedence over animal cruelty and pumping animals full of drugs to control them.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
8. LOL
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:28 PM
Apr 2014


IT has nothing to do with her paycheck, but continue to broadbrush her all you want. Her working there has to do with her passion and commitment to conservation, not money. But hey, don't let knowing nothing about her or me stop you from judging.....how tolerant and progressive of you.

MattBaggins

(7,905 posts)
11. Don't LoL me then
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:31 PM
Apr 2014

Look back at your post. You chose not to mention her feelings or commitment. You chose to bold the line that your wife works there right after a sentence talking about increased revenues to the park.

What would you expect a reader to take away from what you wrote?

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
12. I would expect a reader to
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:10 PM
Apr 2014

not make assumptions. A question rather than a judgement would have been a better course of action.

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
15. Here's what I take away
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:49 PM
Apr 2014

The poster is fine with animal cruelty as long as it helps him buy the shit so many middle American bores feel they need to have to feel good about themselves.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
6. They'll be even more popular once they stop mistreating whales and dolphins
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:08 AM
Apr 2014

And stop making them do circus tricks.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
9. Well
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:29 PM
Apr 2014

since that doesn't appear to be happening, I guess they will just have to wait for the public to move on to the next false outrage.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
16. Yes, actually, the mistreatment is the whole point of the shows
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:23 PM
Apr 2014

and just because your wife works at Sea World, has not a thing to do with whether something is going on or not going on at Sea World.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
7. There's a powerful lot of weaseling in the press release
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:44 AM
Apr 2014

starting with the reference only to the combined earnings of the three Orlando properties. It may be that only one did well and the other two were down in earnings, for example. Are the earnings from amusement park rides or animal acts, one wonders.

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
14. Must be nice
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:38 PM
Apr 2014

Hey how about later I come over and kidnap one of your loved ones and put them in a cage. It'll be for conservation purposes only. Wink: wink

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
5. They got fewer people to spend more & declared victory.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:31 PM
Apr 2014
In other words, the average guest paid more to get into the park and spent more on food and merchandise while there during the third quarter.

The numbers can't add up that way this time around. If revenue grew by a similar amount in the fourth quarter and attendance was positive, it means that admissions are being discounted or that guests aren't spending at quite the levels that they were earlier in the year.


http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/seaworld-profits-blackfish-documentary

I wouldn't count on any of these parks having Orcas 10 years from now.
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