Romney: Uninsured with preexisting conditions should be denied coverage

[Justice wanted]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/28/romney-uninsured-with-preexisting-conditions-should-be-denied-coverage/


Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Tuesday insisted that President Barack Obama’s health care reform law should be overturned and that people with preexisting conditions should be denied coverage if they had never had insurance before.

During an appearance on NBC’s Tonight Show, host Jay Leno told Romney that he knew people that had never been able to get insurance before “Obamacare” was passed.

“It seems to me like children and people with preexisting conditions should be covered,” Leno noted.
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Romney is just too dumb or to arrogant to get it! In a day and age when insurance companies can calm Pnuemonia as pre-existing condiction or throw people off insurance because they are costing them too much money because the person decided to actually USE the coverage---He's like my mom who at age 70 doesn't understand why the places I work for have had either crappy insurance or demanded I pay so much for coverage. She was lucky The school district she worked for paid for he my sister and me to be covered. We had the best coverage and lowest co-pays she was working in an era where that was normal. She didn't understand why I had to make a choice of getting my husband-type 1 diabetes-covered me-who at the time had no health problems. It was too much money for both of us to be covered.

Romney is basically saying on Jay Leno. IF you are too poor to pay for your life out of your pocket than die and decrease the surplus population.

[Cleita]

1. So he believes in social darwinism.

Yet, in his ignorance, he doesn't seem to be aware of the fact that part of the reason we evolved was because within our tribes and clans, we took care of everyone, the young the old and disabled. That's really our evolutionary advantage.

[robinlynne]

4. Don't most animals do the same? perhaps even more than we do?

[Cleita]

5. Quite a few species do.

on edit to add to my post. I had a friend who was studying zoology in college and she said mice especially look after their own. If a mother mouse gets killed or eaten, the other mice take care of her babies and raise them.

[PCButMorallyWrong]

11. You DO NOT pay for it!

A person making $250,000.00 per year 'pays' 3,625 dollars for Medicare. That might buy you a high deductible policy with no drug card for a healthy male under the age of 30.

A person making $50,0000.00 per year .... only $750 a year... not going to much insurance or healthcare for that.

So Medicare for everyone???? Great. But who is going to pay for it.

[Cleita]

12. You already pay for it in your FICA deduction from your paycheck.

Wouldn't you like to also benefit from it?

[PCButMorallyWrong]

20. Not Really

There are two parts to the payroll deduction normally called FICA. 6.2% (temporary 4.2%) for FICA (Social Security) and 1.45% for Medicare.

And no I do not want to benefit from Medicare. That would mean I was sick, uninsured, and financially insolvent.

[Cleita]

22. "That would mean I was sick, uninsured, and financially insolvent."

Yep, and when you get end state kidney disease, and have to be on dialysis that costs anywhere from $4,000 to $5,000, a month, you will be grateful for Medicare because you will find out that your private health insurance won't pay for it or a variety of other expensive diseases you might get. When you get cancer and can't work anymore and lose your insurance because of it, you may find yourself, homeless, dying in a ditch because the hospital threw you out because they felt there was nothing more they could do for you. It happened here where I lived. But if you are one of the 1% billionaires you have nothing to worry about, however, it isn't really very Christian of you, if you are a Christian, to want to deny access to health care for the rest of us who don't have your privilege in life.

[cyberswede]

14. I don't understand what you're saying.

Taxes pay for Medicare, don't they?

For example:

http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/HR676#Sec211

SEC. 211. OVERVIEW: FUNDING THE MEDICARE FOR ALL PROGRAM.

(a) In General- The Medicare for All Program is to be funded as provided in subsection (c)(1).
(b) Medicare for All Trust Fund- There shall be established a Medicare for All Trust Fund in which funds provided under this section are deposited and from which expenditures under this Act are made.

(c) Funding-
(1) IN GENERAL- There are appropriated to the Medicare for All Trust Fund amounts sufficient to carry out this Act from the following sources:
{NOTE: the following part of H.R. 676 describes only one idea for the funding. After sufficient support is established in the U.S. House of Representatives, many funding options will likely be debated. It will be important for some citizens to monitor the progress and give input at that time. In the meantime, any ideas or wishes you have for funding should be sent by letter in the U.S. Mail to your U.S. Representative and U.S. Senators.}
(A) Existing sources of Federal government revenues for health care.
(B) Increasing personal income taxes on the top 5 percent income earners.
(to do: need to communicate what level of income this means)
(C) Instituting a modest and progressive excise tax on payroll and self-employment income.
{Current Medicare tax: 1.45% paid by employers and employees.}
(D) Instituting a modest tax on unearned income.
{This is an additional source of funding … added to the H.R. 676 that was proposed in the previous session of Congress. The expected percentage is not yet available. H.R. 676 will not be given an economic evaluation by the Congressional Budget Office until it gets to at least 100 cosponsors<.}
(E) Instituting a small tax on stock and bond transactions.
(2) SYSTEM SAVINGS AS A SOURCE OF FINANCING- Funding otherwise required for the Program is reduced as a result of–
(A) vastly reducing paperwork
{Elimination of unnecessary administrative activities within all of our health care bureaucracy}
{for-profit bureaucracy}
{government bureaucracy}
{supporting bureaucracy that results from the other two types of bureaucracy and the overall negative situation that they cause}
{Go to Costs and Savings for more information.}

(B) requiring a rational bulk procurement of medications under section 205(a).
(C) improved access to preventive health care.
(3) ADDITIONAL ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS TO MEDICARE FOR ALL PROGRAM- Additional sums are authorized to be appropriated annually as needed to maintain maximum quality, efficiency, and access under the Program.

[PCButMorallyWrong]

21. Trust Fund???

History says you can not trust TRUST funds. Please researh the Trust fund established for Social Security. It is not there. Just a big IOU from the federal government.

[Cleita]

23. The only way it won't be there is if we have a coupe and our government no

longer exists as set up in the Constitution. Unfortunately, it's people who are supporting the Republican candidates, who are propped up by international financial and oil interests, that could make it happen. True Americans will vote for the candidates who won't sell to the highest bidder. Anything else is treason.

btw get your head out of Rush Limbaugh's ass. You really need some fresh oxygen to clear your brain.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

7. But early humans didn't take care of their dinosaurs when they got sick

They'd just ride them into the ground.

[KT2000]

2. his base believes that too

that is exactly what they want - culling of the undesirable population. Really.

[robinlynne]

3. That is pretty much the GOP line.

Except for GOP voters who agree, unless it is THEIR family's health insurance (medicare) being discussed.

[Rex]

6. The GOP hates The People and expresses it daily

while moranic fuckwads continue to vote against their own best interests.

[chowder66]

8. This guy wants nothing to do with the job of President

he only wants to find a way for him and his buddies to profit along with the rest of the candidates on the right.

He does not want for anything so why is he bothering all of us?

Romney - go play in your mounds of money and leave it to those who give a shit to do the business of the nation.

[GeorgeGist]

9. With that kind of thinking ...

police services would only be available to people who have never been the victim of a crime.

[PCButMorallyWrong]

15. Police Services ???

Police services are paid by governmental entities. Security systems and services are puchaced by individuals and companies.

WAIT.... brainstorm Let's require everyone to buy a security system with patrol services and the government can get out of the 'protect and service' business.

[PCButMorallyWrong]

10. Insurance or Healthcare?

Insurance is a commodity. If you sell it for less than you pay for it, like any other product, you lose money. You can not expect a business to sell you a one dollar bill for a penny. This is not a sustainable business model.

Healthcare is a commodity. If you sell it for less than you pay for it, like any other product, you lose money. You can not expect a business to sell you a one dollar bill for a penny. This is not a sustainable business model.

Which market do you want to close? OR , here is an idea, YOU start an insurance company and fix it all !!! You have already identified a market 'nitch' that is not being serviced. The rest should be easy.

I am very sorry that people are sick, I am very sorry that people are poor. But I worry the most about the 'children' mentioned in this loaded question. They are the ones we are leaving the "BILL". If a government continuously borrows one out of every four dollars it spends, the "BILL" gets larger. THIS IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE GOVERNMENT MODEL.

[OKNancy]

17. gee your compassion is overwhelming

ughhhh

[cyberswede]

19. Healthcare shouldn't be a commodity.

That's kinda the point.

[Enrique]

13. don't argue with him, because he already knows

Romneycare had the same ban on those exclusions for pre-existing conditions. And he also believes that the individual mandates are necessary when banning those exclusions, because that is also in Romney care.

He's not stupid or ignorant, he's just flip-flopping.

[librechik]

16. too bad--I guess they have to die (laugh track) Ha ha ha ha ha!

are they even listening to themselves?

[Neoma]

18. He's Scrooge.

[longship]

24. People like me, if I get sick, should just die

That way rich folks won't have to suffer a minor reduction of their millions.

Fuck you, Mitt. You're no George Romney!