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Beacool

(30,254 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:45 PM Apr 2012

No End in Sight

by James Surowiecki

The talk in Washington these days is all about budget deficits, tax rates, and the “fiscal crisis” that supposedly looms in our near future. But this chatter has eclipsed a much more pressing crisis here and now: almost thirteen million Americans are still unemployed. Though the job market has shown some signs of life in recent months, the latest figures on new jobs and on unemployment-insurance claims have been decidedly unimpressive. We are stuck with an unemployment rate three points higher than the postwar average, and the percentage of working adult Americans is as low as it’s been in almost thirty years. What’s most troubling is that so much of this unemployment is long-term. Forty per cent of the unemployed have been without a job for six months or more—a much higher rate than in any recession since the Second World War—and the average length of unemployment is about forty weeks, a number that has changed very little since 2010. The economic recovery has now lasted nearly three years, but for millions of Americans it hasn’t yet begun.

Being unemployed is even more disastrous for individuals than you’d expect. Aside from the obvious harm—poverty, difficulty paying off debts—it seems to directly affect people’s health, particularly that of older workers. A study by the economists Till von Wachter and Daniel Sullivan found that among experienced male workers who lost their jobs during the 1981-82 recession mortality rates soared in the year after the layoffs. And the effects of unemployment linger. Many studies have shown that the lifetime earnings of workers who become unemployed during a recession are permanently reduced, and von Wachter and Sullivan found that mortality rates among laid-off workers were much higher than average even twenty years afterward.

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2012/04/30/120430ta_talk_surowiecki

Long term unemployment is apparently not only detrimental to a person's financial well being, but also to their health. Unfortunately, long term unemployment may be the new normal.

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(19,768 posts)
1. And there are who knows how many that are just not even counted anymore.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 05:20 PM
Apr 2012

I wonder if we really know how bad things actually are.

Beacool

(30,254 posts)
3. I have 3 friends, all professional, who have been laid off in the last 3 years.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 05:33 PM
Apr 2012

Their ages range from mid 30s to early 60s. One still hasn't found a job in over 2.5 years. One just got a job 3 weeks ago after being unemployed since Nov. 2010. The last one was told last Nov. that she and all the other people in her dept. were going to be let go in April. Her last day at work was Friday the 13th. They were sending their jobs to the Philippines and Malaysia. It appears that India is now too expensive, it almost sounds funny. This last friend will be 63 next month so she decided to retire.

Similar stories I hear at church and from coworkers who had family members laid off since the recession started.

There's much talk about recovery, but most people don't feel it in their daily lives.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
6. Like your friend, I decided to retire after I was laid off in 2010.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:05 PM
Apr 2012

I was already 71 years old but wanted to work longer to get more money into my 401K. But I knew there was no hope of anyone hiring me at my age, and I sure as hell did not want to work as a WalMart greeter.

Beacool

(30,254 posts)
7. I'm sorry.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:43 PM
Apr 2012

What's frustrating is that these friends did everything right. They got an education, worked hard and were loyal employees. And all for what? To be kicked to the curb like debris so that some company could save a few bucks. It makes me sick.

The friend that chose to retire had wanted to work until her late 60s since she is healthy and likes to keep active. Alas, she too figured that no one would want to hire a 63 year old. What a shame, so much talent wasted!!!



kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
2. Oh it's not so bad now...
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 05:31 PM
Apr 2012

The big bipartisan push to start cutting Social Security won't start until 2013, after the elections.

Enjoy the respite while it lasts.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
5. It would be interesting to find out how the lack of decent health care, due to joblessness, was
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 05:45 PM
Apr 2012

related to the health decline. For example, do unemployed people in Canada, or France, suffer the same health effects and same decline as American unemployed? Bet they don't.

Beacool

(30,254 posts)
8. Good point.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:44 PM
Apr 2012

I don't know, but stress cannot be good for anyone's health. I think that it affects even those with health insurance.

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