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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis makes me furious:
All over America, people have to decide to rent cars and drive places, as they don't want to end up like this traveler ended up:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40291856/ns/travel-news/#.T7LBEvUeEtx
What is with our nation that we the sheeple refuse to see to it that we are protected from these agents?
What do we have to do?
Where are the candidates who once in office will see to it that we don't have TSA molest babies in diapers, grab granmas by their breasts and hassle cancer survivors till their clothes are covered in their urine.
Who is out there that is against this? Do I have to hope that Jesse Ventura will run for office so We the People get habeus corpus back soon? Who is going to tackle this problem?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,947 posts)He used to be my Governor. He can be entertaining but he's basically an egomaniacal crackpot.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Try having him as governor before you wish for him to run for an office that represents you.
FSogol
(45,579 posts)Solomon
(12,321 posts)conspiracy territory. Once he did that, he was toast. Everybody knows all the shit that happens is by conspiracy. But you can't talk about it openly or you'll be branded. Automatically discarded, even if you're right about something. Labelled.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)MineralMan
(146,345 posts)It was a horrible situation for the traveler. TSA patdown personnel need better training in handling such situations, including training in ostomy appliances and how they are used. I imagine that most of the people doing patdowns rarely see this situation, so training is needed to alert them to issues involved with such cases.
No matter what the situation is, or what the thing it is that people do, there will be situations that come up that were not anticipated properly. That's true with the TSA, and it's true of many other places where people come into contact with other people.
That you had to find a 2011 story is an indication that such is not the norm. The TSA's apology is another indication of the same thing.
MineralMan
(146,345 posts)A retired special education teacher who said he was left humiliated, crying and covered with his own urine after an enhanced pat-down at airport security said he received an apology Monday in a phone call from Transportation Security Administration chief John Pistole.
First he apologized, said Thomas D. Tom Sawyer, 61, of Lansing, Mich. And I thanked him. Then I told him off a bit. And he said, Tell me more. What do you think needs to be done?
I offered to attend a general staff meeting to show the staff what an ostomy bag is and help with that training, Sawyer said. Pistole said he just may take me up on that.
Training. A good idea.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)pale.
ugh
MineralMan
(146,345 posts)One thing's certain, though: The TSA is not going away. I can't imagine that we'll ever see any less security at airports. My only point is that individual situations where something goes wrong do not typify people's experience with the TSA. They're exceptional incidents, and rare. We just don't hear about the millions of people who pass through TSA security with little inconvenience and without feeling overly scrutinized.
In this case, which was deplorable, it led to additional training. I think that happens a lot when something goes wrong, but that doesn't make a good post on DU.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)of course they would rather replace it with racial profiling, but something's got to give.
What is absurd is how low the risk is this is supposedly deterring, and most of the recent attempts on airliners have been foiled by other PASSENGERS NOT SECURITY.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)I'll add another one: I forget the exact statistics, but there is something like an additional five thousand deaths a year, due to how so many people now drive long instances rather than fly.
With flying being much safer than driving. I cannot even begin to count the times I was almost creamed by another driver on the way to the airport, as opposed to the one time in 55 years that I felt my life was at risk while in a plane.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)Make people traveling on private jets go through the same kind of security that people traveling on commercial airliners go through.
The problem would be solved overnight.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Went to the trouble of pretending they frisked Henry Kissinger the same way they would frisk you or me.