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applegrove

(118,861 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:55 PM Jul 2015

President Obama commutes non-violent drug sentences in move to reduce mass incarceration

President Obama commutes non-violent drug sentences in move to reduce mass incarceration

by Bethania Palma Markus at the Raw Story

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/president-obama-commutes-non-violent-drug-sentences-in-move-to-reduce-mass-incarceration/


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In an effort to pare down the massive number of people serving long prison sentences for non-violent, drug-related offenses, President Barack Obama will free dozens of federal prisoners in the coming weeks, the New York Times reports.

While the president is expected to commute the sentences of a rough total of 80 people soon, it’s just a small fraction of the 30,000 prisoners who applied for clemency. But it’s part of a broader move to correct what many agree to be a national pattern of gross over-sentencing, thanks to years of “tough on crime” politicians who instituted mandatory minimum sentencing, according to the Times.

The United States is the world’s largest jailer, according to statistics from the American Civil Liberties Union. With just 5 percent of the world’s population, the US has 25 percent of the world’s prison population. Since 1970, the US prison population has shot up 700 percent.

The crisis has been attributed to the War on Drugs, which is now broadly seen as a failure, and mandatory minimum sentencing, according to Business Insider.




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President Obama commutes non-violent drug sentences in move to reduce mass incarceration (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2015 OP
My question would be- ruffburr Jul 2015 #1
Another, related question: Ned Flanders Jul 2015 #13
These are commutations--not pardons or vacation of sentences. MADem Jul 2015 #26
I like it!! BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #2
Smart move, brave move (nt) Babel_17 Jul 2015 #3
Thanks, Mr. President. MineralMan Jul 2015 #4
Lets hope this 80 or so Plucketeer Jul 2015 #16
Exactly my thought. How can you release some but not all? tblue Jul 2015 #24
K&R sheshe2 Jul 2015 #5
Finally. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #6
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #7
. applegrove Jul 2015 #8
. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #10
I'm glad to see this. LuvNewcastle Jul 2015 #9
80 down, hundreds of thousands to go. ohnoyoudidnt Jul 2015 #11
yes really questionseverything Jul 2015 #30
+1 nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #35
There's always a downer in the group... George II Jul 2015 #40
+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #37
Great, catrose Jul 2015 #12
Good point. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #15
I am hoping beyond hope that pardoning Don Siegelman is on Obama's bucket list. Stardust Jul 2015 #29
Me too, but I'm feeling a bit forlorn about it catrose Jul 2015 #44
Was Siegelman's conviction for a non-violent drug offense? George II Jul 2015 #41
No, not drugs catrose Jul 2015 #42
Well then, start a thread on his crime, these commutations are for different crimes. Okay? George II Jul 2015 #45
It won't help all that many families, but it is a step in a good, forgiving JDPriestly Jul 2015 #14
good! Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #17
will be interesting to see how the media portrays this Takket Jul 2015 #18
Small step in the right direction AllyCat Jul 2015 #19
To call the WOD a failure is a coverup jomin41 Jul 2015 #20
Meanwhile at FOX "News": Is Obama's mass release of inmates a danger to your family? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #21
How about Don Seigelman while you're at it, Mr. President? navarth Jul 2015 #22
What a pleasant surprise and refreshing change of pace to see President Obama back on top of the DU Greatest Threads! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #23
I think sometimes trolls want our popular politicians relegated to rooms and off the front page of applegrove Jul 2015 #25
Excellent news! historylovr Jul 2015 #27
Very good. Do governors have the same power? They could finish the job. jwirr Jul 2015 #28
Yes, governors generally have the same power in their states. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #33
Dozens, who choses? Why not all of the non-violent drug offenders? kickysnana Jul 2015 #31
Obama asked drug offenders to apply for commutations. 30,000 have done so. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #32
A commendable start of solving the problem Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #34
Time to end Mr. Nixon's War on Political Enemies, not throw a small bone L. Coyote Jul 2015 #36
love that man nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #38
YAY!! Great news! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2015 #39
Excellent--don't forget to drop a note to the Whitehouse email box n/t eridani Jul 2015 #43
Were these 80 people users or dealers? Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #46

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
1. My question would be-
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jul 2015

Since policy has been to confiscate property of those arrested for marijuana growing do they get compensation? A good step though.

 

Ned Flanders

(233 posts)
13. Another, related question:
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:17 PM
Jul 2015

How many people were put in jail by DEA raids on dispensaries during Obama's term?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. These are commutations--not pardons or vacation of sentences.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:44 PM
Jul 2015

They're still guilty, that hasn't changed. They won't get any property back under this scenario.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. Lets hope this 80 or so
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:28 PM
Jul 2015

is just the first toe in the water. Talk about saving us taxpayers money! Let some of these folks out and offer them some societal rehab to get them back amongst us responsibly. Gotta be less costly than a year of incarceration.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
24. Exactly my thought. How can you release some but not all?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:30 PM
Jul 2015

It's unconscionable. But a step in the right direction for sure.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
11. 80 down, hundreds of thousands to go.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:15 PM
Jul 2015

Including the state level. Of course, with states agreeing to quotas to fill private prisons, that could be problamatic.

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. There's always a downer in the group...
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jul 2015

...try this:

"MUCH better and many more than his predecessors COMBINED"!

catrose

(5,075 posts)
44. Me too, but I'm feeling a bit forlorn about it
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 08:35 PM
Jul 2015

especially when he came into office and set about getting "justice" for that Republican from Alaska, but not Don…after 6 years.

catrose

(5,075 posts)
42. No, not drugs
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 08:34 PM
Jul 2015

But nonviolent, and convicted under a law that at least 100 attorneys general have said was bogus (or at least so confusing that no one knows what it really means). If prisons are overcrowded, he'd be a good one to let go.

Takket

(21,652 posts)
18. will be interesting to see how the media portrays this
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:55 PM
Jul 2015

despite it being "non-violent" offenders, the media will surely strike fear into americans, claiming the Obama and setting drug addicted murders and rapists out onto the streets to attack your children because... you know... corporate RW media.

jomin41

(559 posts)
20. To call the WOD a failure is a coverup
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jul 2015

because it has always been a FRAUD. From the beginning to this very day. Deliberate.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
23. What a pleasant surprise and refreshing change of pace to see President Obama back on top of the DU Greatest Threads!
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:29 PM
Jul 2015

Still don't get why Obama needs his own room at DU, the entire house should be a welcoming home to a twice elected Democratic President facing a fascist assault.

applegrove

(118,861 posts)
25. I think sometimes trolls want our popular politicians relegated to rooms and off the front page of
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:37 PM
Jul 2015

the DU. That way when some real democratic or independent newbie comes to the DU they don't have quick access to our great Democratic politicians and all the great stuff they do. You have to dig for it.

kickysnana

(3,908 posts)
31. Dozens, who choses? Why not all of the non-violent drug offenders?
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jul 2015

America really sucks as a society.

Talk show hosts, reality shows give away some huge thing to one person leaving the millions bend and doing nothing to solve the unconstitutional laws that led to the misery in this country today for millions.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
34. A commendable start of solving the problem
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:42 PM
Jul 2015

(even though it only addresses the tip of an iceberg that is a symptom, it is the first move ever made to address the issue.)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
36. Time to end Mr. Nixon's War on Political Enemies, not throw a small bone
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jul 2015

to a few people.

How about restoring voting rights to the millions of liberals who were deprived of their rights by the discriminatory war on minorities.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
46. Were these 80 people users or dealers?
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 08:51 PM
Jul 2015

If they were convicted of using drugs, I have no problem with the commutations. If they were dealers, I would like to know the details of their convictions.

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