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riversedge

(70,379 posts)
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:29 PM Jul 2015

The West is literally on fire, and the impacts could be widespread

This photo looks absolutely terrifying.


The West is literally on fire, and the impacts could be widespread http://thkpr.gs/3675710




by Natasha Geiling Posted on July 1, 2015 at 8:00 am

CREDIT: Shutterstock


As expected, the 2015 wildfire season has meant more bad news for drought-stricken Western states. As of June 30, 45 wildfires large active wildfires burned from Alaska down to Arizona and as far east as Colorado. Wildfires in Southern California had driven thousands from their homes, while fires in Alaska have burned more than one million acres this year.

Separate from human interference, wildfires are a completely natural occurrence that help a forest ecosystem with regeneration and growth. But decades of fire suppression tactics combined with climate change have provided wildfires with an abundance of dry, dead fuel, leading to more fires and a longer fire season. Fighting wildfires also comes with a large price tag, with an average of $1.13 billion spent on wildfire suppression each year. With climate change, that price could increase to $62.5 billion annually by 2050.

But wildfires impact more than just forests and the economy — they can have far-reaching impacts on public health, water quality, and climate change.

“These cascading impacts are the things that keep me up at night,” Jason Funk, a senior climate scientist for the Climate and Energy Program at the Union of Concerned Scientists, told ThinkProgress. “We haven’t been looking at them so much.”


Fires Can Cause Choking Pollution That Rivals Beijing

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The West is literally on fire, and the impacts could be widespread (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2015 OP
That photo is from San Diego in 2003 nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #1
oh, thanks. I do riversedge Jul 2015 #7
We need more concensus to do more controlled burns Babel_17 Jul 2015 #2
Every time there are controlled burns in the back country nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #5
Is there a viable option to controlled burns - here in NE MN much of the forested land has homes jwirr Jul 2015 #8
Pretty much all of Western Canada as well laundry_queen Jul 2015 #3
With the Rethugs in control. Wellstone ruled Jul 2015 #4
California uses a lot of Convict labor to fight wildfires. Mr.Bill Jul 2015 #10
Not against their will. If they volunteer that's one thing but they should have a choice. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #11
They not only volunteer, Mr.Bill Jul 2015 #13
Well this isn't from 2003 fredamae Jul 2015 #6
The "Lake Fire" in the San Bernardino Forest is now 90% contained finally cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #9
Holy shit. "319 active fires burning in Alaska as of Sunday morning." SunSeeker Jul 2015 #12
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. That photo is from San Diego in 2003
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015

why the credit is to Shutterstock.

It is bad I recognized the location immediately? (Or that I have seen this photo so many times)

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
2. We need more concensus to do more controlled burns
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jul 2015

It's a choice not to do more controlled burns but given the variables, and the certainty of risking political suicide, we can't blame the elected officials. We need the editorial pages, and commentary from trusted sources, to lead the public to support them.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Every time there are controlled burns in the back country
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jul 2015

these are local policy from CAL FIRE, we have people taking to those same pages screaming. Half of the forest (Cleveland) is in really bad shape or dead due to invasive species. But people do not want to hear it, and the 2003 and 2007 fires really did a lot of damage. So back country residents completely and fully oppose them, or the ones that do are very loud.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. Is there a viable option to controlled burns - here in NE MN much of the forested land has homes
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:44 PM
Jul 2015

spread throughout the entire area.

I was a part of a brushing crew that brushed along the railroad tracks some years ago.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
3. Pretty much all of Western Canada as well
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jul 2015

There are major fires in BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan right now. We've had air quality issues the last few weeks because of this - as an asthmatic, it sucks. Of course, the larger implications are even worse.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. With the Rethugs in control.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jul 2015

Zero funding increases for the Forest Service to hire or train people to address these issues. When Raygun forced the Ag Dept to privatize the Firefighters for the Forest Service the game set match end game happened. Forest Service Personnel would address remediation of forest lands in what is called the off season. Here again is what happens in a so called Private Industry can do better Society. Nature knows best,yah,right. Just asked the Guys in the Canadian Wood Industry,why do you think they are moving south of the border,the Idiots let the forest burn and now they have Issues. That and Bark Beatles which can be controlled by having the man power.

Mr.Bill

(24,344 posts)
10. California uses a lot of Convict labor to fight wildfires.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:29 PM
Jul 2015

They are the backbone of wildfire firefighting in the northern county where I live. We should expand this system as much as possible.

Mr.Bill

(24,344 posts)
13. They not only volunteer,
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

they beg to get into this program. It's the best you can do in the prison system. Best food, best living conditions, etc. Most importantly it teaches having a purpose in life.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
9. The "Lake Fire" in the San Bernardino Forest is now 90% contained finally
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015

No forward growth for days. 31,000+ acres. Now come the monsoons, with their lightning. Ugh.

SunSeeker

(51,771 posts)
12. Holy shit. "319 active fires burning in Alaska as of Sunday morning."
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

I thought things were bad here in California...

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