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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"I WILL Veto Any Legislation Which Attempts to Prevent Adoption of this Agreement." - Pres. Obama
Botany
(70,627 posts)Where do I sign?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)More than half of Iranians are under thirty-five years old.
The young people who will come to power in that timeframe will have no personal recollection living under the repressive Pahlavi regime, but sure as shit know all about crazy religious fundamentalists trying to run their lives for them.
Botany
(70,627 posts)n/t
Ikonoklast
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)And the Shah, CIA, overthrowing the democratically elected government of Iran thing so oil companies could still run things in that country thing...
If I was an Iranian citizen, I'd push my government to produce nuclear weapons, too.
Gothmog
(145,751 posts)Congratulations to Sec. Kerry and President Obama on this accomplishment
AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)during the President's remarks.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Gothmog
(145,751 posts)This is an amazing accomplishment
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)pull out of his 'lame-duck' hat next! LOL!
bvf
(6,604 posts)fu-- er, bucket list?
This is great news! That Bibi and congressional Republicans are flummoxed only makes the accomplishment that much more delicious.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)NBachers
(17,156 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)No, really, thanks.
thesquanderer
(11,998 posts)I have this vision that, to get the Republicans on board, congressional approvals for this treaty and for TPP will be linked. Obama wants both, so it's a win-win for him, but the Dems fighting TPP will have to go along with it to assure approval of the Iran deal.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)rateyes
(17,438 posts)Fast track passed. The TPP hasn't been submitted yet.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)When does it come up before Congress, then?
MineralMan
(146,341 posts)The TPP agreement isn't even in its final form. Who knows when it will be. When it is, Congress will vote on it, within 90 days of the release of the final form of the agreement.
I know it's confusing, but TPP has not passed.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)MineralMan
(146,341 posts)from ignorance, since they get the terms confused so often. It's crucial to understand the difference between the actual TPP and things like TPA, which only enables the negotiations to proceed and prevents Congress from attaching amendments and changes to the agreement. Any such changes would require further negotiations between the multiple nations who are involved.
Will the TPP pass in Congress? Probably it will, but so far, nobody has seen a final version of the agreement, since negotiations are still underway.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)to provide a reasonable, thoughtful, factual perspective on everything?
By the way, please continue!
MineralMan
(146,341 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)spanone
(135,915 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,022 posts)Bam!
Johnny2X2X
(19,240 posts)How great an achievement this is is directly proportional to the Republican outrage we are hearing. If the Republicans would have been silent today, I might have questioned this deal, but their outrage speaks volumes about how good for America and Obama's legacy this deal is.
I think people are not fully appreciating how monumental this is. Just 7 years ago, Obama was being roundly criticized for even suggesting we talk to Iran at all, today we have signed an agreement with Iran that will prevent them from gaining nuclear weapons and ultimately could lead to them returning to full normalized relations with most of the world. Just a huge huge accomplishment.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Cha
(297,887 posts)Mahalo Surya~
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)All of the sour, bitter RW faces on the media are proof of the greatness of this agreement!
Cha
(297,887 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Don't forget to express your approval by email
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Also left phone messages. WE CANNOT let Congress screw this up!