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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMedia Turns Its Back On Experts Who Blame GOP For Political Gridlock
Thomas E. Mann, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Norman J. Ornstein, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, are well-respected centrist congressional experts who are often cited by the media. But their recent conclusion that Republicans are responsible for political dysfunction -- laid out in an April 29 Washington Post op-ed and their recently released book -- has been largely ignored, with the top five national newspapers writing a total of zero news articles on their thesis.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201205180007
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,452 posts)they "can't handle the truth!"
Obviously, the truth isn't very profitable in journalism nowadays.
spanone
(135,921 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,452 posts)and people will believe anything, usually even if it gets disproved later. For instance, I think that yesterday there was a story about Elizabeth Warren plagiarizing but then having to retract it. I would not be surprised at all if the right-wing keeps flogging the story and people keep believing it. *ugh*
eggplant
(3,919 posts)...simply because they actually HAVE standards.
lpbk2713
(42,772 posts)But, as they see it, it's Obama's fault for not getting us out of said ditch before now.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,452 posts)The Republicans get more airtime complaining about Obama (rightly) blaming Bush than Obama gets trying to explain his solutions to fix Bush's mess.
I don't remember the name of the guy before Obama. If you listen to repugs, it was probably Clinton ... they never say who it was ...
emulatorloo
(44,267 posts)And media reports what they say as if it is the gospel truth
In spite of that Obama got a fair amount accomplished. But media pretends he didn't.
spanone
(135,921 posts)Rep. Allen West, a Florida Republican, was recently captured on video asserting that there are 78 to 81 Democrats in Congress who are members of the Communist Party. Of course, its not unusual for some renegade lawmaker from either side of the aisle to say something outrageous. What made Wests comment right out of the McCarthyite playbook of the 1950s so striking was the almost complete lack of condemnation from Republican congressional leaders or other major party figures, including the remaining presidential candidates.
Its not that the GOP leadership agrees with West; it is that such extreme remarks and views are now taken for granted.
We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.
The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_print.html
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)up his slander. Not one.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)But I still thought her interview was ineffective.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)JHB
(37,164 posts)...they're just the the "most-Washington-insider" people to do so, and even they get conveniently forgotten.
spanone
(135,921 posts)Last month, Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein wrote a piece for The Washington Posts Outlook section that dared to suggest the unthinkable: Both parties arent equally to blame for what ails Washington.
They argued, and expounded on this point in their book, that the Republican Party by allowing extremists to roam free and by wielding the filibuster to achieve government dysfunction as a political end in itself were demonstrably more culpable than the Democrats for creating what is approaching a crisis of governance.
The op-ed has been a viral sensation online for weeks, yet neither man has been invited on to the Sunday TV talk shows to discuss this thesis. As some observers have noted, these are among the most quoted people in Washington yet this topic is suddenly too hot for these Washington-centric shows, or it has been deemed not relevant at all.
Ornstein confirmed that the books publisher has tried to get the authors on the Sunday shows, with no success.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/54135968-82/ornstein-sunday-shows-topic.html.csp
DallasNE
(7,404 posts)For one Sunday. Are you nuts.
DFW
(54,488 posts)With good reason, too. He's one of the most intelligent, engaging speakers and insightful
commentators out there: I don't know Mann, but I've known Norm for years, and ignoring
him on a subject he knows more about than almost anybody means to me that there are
a LOT of folks out there that are terrified of what he has to say.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)The American Enterprise Institute is hardly a nest of Bolsheviks. I'm so glad he and Mr. Mann put this out there. God Bless smart people.
DFW
(54,488 posts)He was always always the token sane person at AEI.
lpbk2713
(42,772 posts)Well, I hope. I don't hear much about her now that she is in her well deserved retirement.
Her absence from the press corps is conspicuous.
DFW
(54,488 posts)I'm in Washington for my nephew's college graduation. It has already been interesting
as some of the whackos have already been whining about their commencement speaker,
who was HHS Secretary Kathleen Sibelius.
dmr
(28,352 posts)Enjoy your dinner.
And I talked to her this afternoon. It's confirmed for Monday night. She makes the reservations,
and we pick her up and take her home--no big detour, as she lives right down the same street
less than 5 minutes from the restaurant.
marsis
(301 posts)corporate media.....................
Where have all the journalist gone? There are only a handful, and I'll say - night - time MSNBC and CURRENT
CBHagman
(16,992 posts)Why am I not surprised comments have been disabled for the video? Sigh.
Notice too that Judy Woodruff has to get in the apparently mandatory "But the Democrats are at fault too" dig, which one sees at The Washington Post. (And yes, Dana Milbank, I mean you.)
Anyway, The WaPo Outlook section featured a follow-up on what Ornstein and Mann believe would help improve things...and what they believe would not work.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/want-to-end-partisan-politics-heres-what-wont-work--and-what-will/2012/05/17/gIQA5jqcWU_story.html
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Response to spanone (Original post)
hay rick This message was self-deleted by its author.
Rex
(65,616 posts)THE REASON we are in such deep shit right now. THE REASON I refuse to watch any M$M channel or support any rag like the NYTs or Newsweek. Crappy propaganda that is hurtful to the country.
The Wizard
(12,555 posts)tcaudilllg
(1,553 posts)Current does not count.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Too bad the media doesn't honestly tell their audience what they are doing... then we could have a true democracy, one which a public was informed, rather than purposely misled by a media contracted by the 1%.
gulliver
(13,200 posts)This year is going to completely blow away the record for media ad sales. For one thing the media don't want to offend their biggest SuperPAC customers, the Republicans. But on the other hand, the media don't want to give away free exposure to ideas (true or not) that the Dems would otherwise have to pay for.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)The Dude: It's uh... uh... it's down there somewhere, let me take another look.
Link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/quotes
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Mich McConnell frankly stated that the Republican goal was to make President Obama a one term president. His party has consistently been refusing to act on necessary legislation and blocking legislation they formerly proposed. How much more obvious does it have to get? In some 55 years of following politics, I've never seen anything like it. Is this the influence of Grover Norquist, a man who's never been elected to any office, but has vowed to turn this government into a one party system? How crazy (and actually treasonous) is that? Has nobody considered seriously prosecuting this poisonous toad? Damn right our media is just ignoring the situation.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)....by claiming that they're 'secret Nazis' or whatever, or whining about Obama......right?
Truth is, that's how they think these days.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...unless proven otherwise by other sources.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)After all, the popular shows just love, love, love showing contrarian and unexpected guests. The Black spokesperson talking up the Republicans or the conservative woman arguing against pay equity. Whoo-eee! It's Unexpected City! Watching the talking chuckleheads, you'd think every last Black man and white woman in the United States was a wealthy conservative.
But here comes a couple of guys with the contrarian view that "both sides don't do it." Crickets.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The one who owns the newsstand controls what's sold.
SunSeeker
(51,789 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)to fear the thousands of dittohead/teabaggers that can be diddled into a lather on a moments notice by the think tank ops that analyze the news and feed the blowhards that reach 50 mil a week.
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)"Why haven't you heard about opinions of the once GOP touted experts?" "Is it because they say...."
Something similar. Folks get paid a lot of money to come up with great ads so I am sure there is something that can be used with this information.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Shut down the government -- shut down Obama re-election chances
Posted by Samantha in General Discussion: Presidency
Fri Apr 08th 2011, 01:21 AM
Why do people seem to think this whole shut-down-the-government threat is truly about deficit spending, Planned Parenthood or abortion? President Obama himself said an extended government shutdown can impair our delicate economic recovery. Isn't that truly the Republicans' goal? Let us refresh for a moment. What did Mitch McConnell say was the number one goal for the Republicans? Ah, yes, make Obama a one-term President.
And that I believe is our clue as to what this current controversy is truly about. If there is one thing we learned from eight years of George W. Bush*, Republicans do not truly care about deficits. Remember Cheney's famous "deficits don't matter" comment? Deficits don't matter to Republicans. Elections matter because that is where all of the power and control (read "money" rests.
This shutdown is not about any of the reasons commentators report. It is about the Republicans' Number One Priority. Impede the recovery, further impair the economy, take out Obama in 2012. That is it in a political nutshell.
Tell me I am mistaken.
Sam
protect our future
(1,156 posts)important issues if enough people raise a stink so big and so far-reaching that they have to. Never underestimate the power of the Internet.