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marmar

(77,106 posts)
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 10:39 AM Aug 2015

Keurig’s single-serve coffee empire in jeopardy, analysts say


(MarketWatch) Shares of Keurig Green Mountain fell nearly 30% Thursday after the company reported plunging sales of its at-home brewers, a disappointing outlook and a proposed fix that one analyst said offered “telling” signs of a company struggling to turn around its business.

While Keurig GMCR still believes it can reach long-term earnings goals despite vastly underperforming expectations last quarter, Stifel analyst Mark Astrachan disagrees.

The analyst reduced his earnings estimates for fiscal 2015, 2016 and 2017 and said slowing sales for hot coffee brewers, worsening margins and “considerable questions” surrounding Keurig Kold, the company’s SodaStream SODA rival expected to hit stores shelves in October, will “likely result in continued underperformance” of Keurig’s stock.

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Keurig’s attempt at a multiyear fix did little to offset these concerns. The plan includes merging Keurig’s U.S. and Canadian businesses and cutting 5% of workforce to save $100 million in costs this year and $300 million over the next three years. ...........(more)

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/keurigs-turnaround-plan-a-telling-sign-of-a-floundering-business-analysts-say-2015-08-06?dist=lcountdown




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Keurig’s single-serve coffee empire in jeopardy, analysts say (Original Post) marmar Aug 2015 OP
Try coming up with a plan that doesn't involve landfilling millions of plastic cups. As for ..... marble falls Aug 2015 #1
Here's one environmentally responsible solution FrodosPet Aug 2015 #2
My absolute favorite. Though a triple shot mocha really hits the spot one a week or so. marble falls Aug 2015 #10
Exactly. Cheaper, tastier and doesn't involve plastic waste. Vinca Aug 2015 #18
Not to mention it makes nasty coffee spinbaby Aug 2015 #4
I have a Sodastream so I had to go to the site packman Aug 2015 #5
Since you already own the machine ... surrealAmerican Aug 2015 #6
You may not be aware , but many stores - TARGET, for example packman Aug 2015 #7
This is what we had been doing ... surrealAmerican Aug 2015 #8
This.Stupid and wasteful. Right up there with throw sufrommich Aug 2015 #13
I use them in my painting classes. I must have 200 of them. I was on a test where they .... marble falls Aug 2015 #15
Don't use the K-cups. WillowTree Aug 2015 #20
It's my wife's fault. Igel Aug 2015 #3
My wife got "me" one for Christmas and we both use the reusables. It still seem an expensive way.... marble falls Aug 2015 #12
Their new machine had DRM so you could not use other pods with them. alarimer Aug 2015 #9
Yep. Dr. Strange Aug 2015 #21
meh shanti Aug 2015 #11
Coffee makers have a short market life. Then they are replaced by MineralMan Aug 2015 #14
they are the Crocs of Coffee, everyone that wants one, has one JCMach1 Aug 2015 #16
I've had 1 pair of Crocs for around 15 years. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #19
I have a faithful pair of Croc open-toed sandals that have lasted about 10 yrs. now... JCMach1 Aug 2015 #24
Having worked many years in offices 1939 Aug 2015 #17
That's what happens when you sell crappy over-priced coffee in proprietary containers. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #22
this product is like a coke spoon olddots Aug 2015 #23

spinbaby

(15,092 posts)
4. Not to mention it makes nasty coffee
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 10:53 AM
Aug 2015

My son has one of these and I find it makes nasty, acidic coffee even when I use coffee I like when it's made in a drip coffee maker. Plus, it's a really expensive way to make coffee.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
5. I have a Sodastream so I had to go to the site
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 11:03 AM
Aug 2015

Reason for boycott:

"... SodaStream manufactures these machines within an Israeli settlement in occupied Palestinian territory. These settlements are illegal under international law and are obstacles to peace. We choose not to partake in supporting this unethical enterprise and ask consumers and stores to join us."

OK- off the kitchen counter into the pantry with the breadmaker, hot dog cooker, and mini-muffin cooker.

surrealAmerican

(11,366 posts)
6. Since you already own the machine ...
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 11:16 AM
Aug 2015

... you should know this: they can be adapted to use paintball tanks, instead of the proprietary tanks. It's also way less expensive for the gas that way.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
7. You may not be aware , but many stores - TARGET, for example
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 11:42 AM
Aug 2015

have a turn in system. True, the first tank was rather expensive. However, you can return an empty tank, in my case to Target, and get a refill for about 1/4 the cost of a new tank.

To tell you the truth, I never liked the coffee taste but the convenience was too much to ignore. I have one of those plunge-type and I consider them a pain in the ass. As for a carafe, I disliked the clean up and the wasted coffee to be thrown out - the tarry, crap left at the end of the day. Guess I will drink anything that looks like coffee as long as it has caffeine in it.

surrealAmerican

(11,366 posts)
8. This is what we had been doing ...
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 11:50 AM
Aug 2015

... before getting a paintball tank adapter. The refills for the original tanks cost us about 4 times as much as the refills for a paintball tank. CO2 is cheap.

I never actually used a Keurig. We make drip coffee in a thermal carafe.

marble falls

(57,405 posts)
15. I use them in my painting classes. I must have 200 of them. I was on a test where they ....
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 02:41 PM
Aug 2015

gave me beta machine for two weeks and more coffee than you could shake a stick at. The cups were a wierd size and a different type of plastic - thicker and harder. When my wife got "me" the new machine I hacked a way to use all those beta coffee pods into a regular pod.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
20. Don't use the K-cups.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 04:16 PM
Aug 2015

I have one of the Keurigs that pre-dates the ones that will only take the proprietary K-cups so I have an adapter and a bunch of these cute little filter baskets which I use with my favorite coffee from the grocery store. In a normal week, I only make three travel cups of coffee anyway and not having to wash a pot every time is just too convenient It's way cheaper, I like the coffee better and I'm not filling the landfills with those horrid little plastic cups.

Igel

(35,382 posts)
3. It's my wife's fault.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 10:53 AM
Aug 2015

It's guaranteed that the best sign that a trend has levelled and is about to take a nosedive is having my wife hop on board.

If I also hop on board at about the same time, the nosedive will be so steep as to produce sonic booms.

In June she bought a Keurig coffee maker. A couple of weeks later, I decided I liked it and started using it. (And immediately bought one of the reusable "cups".)

marble falls

(57,405 posts)
12. My wife got "me" one for Christmas and we both use the reusables. It still seem an expensive way....
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 02:29 PM
Aug 2015

make mediocre cups of tea and coffee. I still grind and French press after she goes somewhere.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
9. Their new machine had DRM so you could not use other pods with them.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 11:54 AM
Aug 2015

I'm not sure how it worked, exactly, but it didn't allow for non-Keurig pods to be used, which I'm sure is why people kept the old ones instead of buying the news. But how many coffee machines do people need anyway? They replace them when they break, but not usually because of new features or whatever, like a phone.

MineralMan

(146,341 posts)
14. Coffee makers have a short market life. Then they are replaced by
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 02:38 PM
Aug 2015

some other coffee-making method and a new fad is born.

I've never been tempted by this type of coffee-maker. I've had coffee from one, and didn't find it any more worthwhile than what comes out of my drip and vacuum-bottle carafe.

Personally, my favorite coffee comes from an old 1950s stovetop Silex vacuum coffee-maker, but it's such a pain in the ass to use, that I rarely brew in it. That fad has come and gone, but you can still buy this type of coffee maker from Bodum. Here's what my Silex is like:

JCMach1

(27,582 posts)
16. they are the Crocs of Coffee, everyone that wants one, has one
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

everyone else realizes what a wasteful joke they are...


Actually, Crocs are probably more useful than a Keurig and probably taste better.

maxsolomon

(33,440 posts)
19. I've had 1 pair of Crocs for around 15 years.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 04:05 PM
Aug 2015

They're phenomenally useful as backyard shoes or water shoes, and surprisingly comfortable. Utilitarian.

Keurig makes compostable cups (you can get them at Costco), so they do have the ability to pull their heads out of their asses.

JCMach1

(27,582 posts)
24. I have a faithful pair of Croc open-toed sandals that have lasted about 10 yrs. now...
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 10:12 PM
Aug 2015

I don't even think they make them anywhere, but they are the best garden and beach sandals EVAH!

1939

(1,683 posts)
17. Having worked many years in offices
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 03:45 PM
Aug 2015

where the standard was the large electric percolator, my coffee taste buds have been totally shot (a real man can handle the 3:30PM last cup). Not having a secretary to make the coffee any more, I appreciate the convenience of my Keurig.

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