Michelle Bachmann reveals: Religious Right actually wants to see Israel destroyed.

[DetlefK]

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/12/michele_bachmanns_creepy_end_times_fantasies_why_the_religious_right_yearns_for_world_war_iii/

They’re convinced because they interpret foreign affairs through the prism of Bronze Age biblical prophesy. Without getting bogged down in the colorful details of Christian eschatology, the story runs something like this: In order for Jesus to return and establish his Kingdom, the state of Israel must first be conquered by an invading army (preferably Persian or Arab) – because God says so. The unfortunate part (if you’re Jewish, at least) is that before Christ descends from the clouds, a holocaust of sorts must occur, resulting in the deaths of 2/3 of Israel’s people. For certain Christians, then, Israel must exist as a state (which is why they defend it so passionately), but it must also suffer immensely so that Christians can escape physical death in the form of the Rapture.

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Bachmann called the nuclear agreement with Iran “the most important national security event of my lifetime.” Not for geopolitical reasons, of course, but because it fulfills God’s prophesy: “All the nations of the world signed an agreement that slams the door against Israel.” Even better, she continued, the agreement prepares the way for Israel’s ruination “with the United States leading that charge.” Which apparently is also part of God’s plan,

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The Religious Right don't care about Israel for political reasons. Or for humanitarian reasons. Or because Judaism and Christianity are both abrahamitic religions.

They want to see Israel protected until the perfect moment has come to destroy it.






We should ask the GOP presidential candidates what they think about the Rapture and the destruction of Israel being necessary to save the Christians.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Yup. They're no friends of Israel.

It just needs to stick around long enough to allow for the prophecy to be fulfilled in its destruction.

[Fred Sanders]

2. Does Bibi and his coalition government know that the only reason his country is so beloved by American

religious nutjobs......is because they wish it destroyed?

And why are these nutjobs not being thoroughly mocked and marginalized?

[merrily]

6. Most likely, he is banking on the end times being a myth.

In the meantime, Israel will be the darling of the religious right.

He has nothing to lose.

[DetlefK]

9. But if we get a GOP-candidate to talk about Israel's destruction being necessary...

That would be pretty... akward.

[merrily]

11. Maybe, but it will be no surprise to Bibi.

I'm sure he knows what both testaments say about Israel.

[awoke_in_2003]

22. Safe bet. nt

[Mariana]

12. I'm sure he does know it.

I don't imagine he cares very much. As long as they continue to materially support Israel, why should he be bothered about their nutty religious ideas and motivations? It's not as if he believes any of that crap.

[beam me up scottie]

14. +1

He's not stupid and the right wing religious nut jobs haven't exactly kept their mouths shut about their beliefs.

I'm surprised more people don't realize this.

[lame54]

16. I'm sure he does...

it's silly but it keeps the money flowing

[lolly]

27. Exactly.

Netanyahu is playing them for fools.

I wouldn't care if they were sending all their money to him--some people deserve to be conned. Just hate seeing him interfere with the U.S.'s best interests. Hate seeing our representatives treat him with more respect than the president we elected.

[lame54]

29. except it's our money their sending

[muntrv]

3. They are pro-end-of-days. Not pro-Israel.

[Fred Sanders]

4. Pro-birth, not pro-life...same Bible-thumping, brain-dead, Fox brainwashed nut-jobs.

[merrily]

7. Please. They are not pro-birth or they would open free clinics for pregnant women.

They are anti-abortion and some are even anti-contraception.

When it comes to women, they are pro nothing.

Do not buy into their deceitful terminology.

Liberals went from "pro-abortion" to "pro-choice," which was the truth. So they went from "anti-abortion" to "pro-life," which was a deception.

Anti-abortion is what they are and have always been.

[Scuba]

5. There's no crazy like God Crazy.

[merrily]

13. Not really.

I have twice watch someone I love having a total mental/emotional breakdown, where hospitalization was the only alternative.

[Chiyo-chichi]

8. This is a story line on "The Brink" on HBO

with John Larroquette as the US ambassador to Pakistan who has had a "vision" and believes he is playing a major role in facilitating Armageddon as described in the Book of Revelation. It's a good show. Also stars Tim Robbins, Jack Black, and Aasif Mandvi, formerly of The Daily Show.

[DawgHouse]

17. I love this show!

[RussBLib]

10. the Bible continues to warp national politics

it warps everything it is read and believed.

as does the Koran.

Someday we will be past all this superstition. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not this century.

[hifiguy]

31. That's what it boils down to.

If the superstition junkies get their way it probably won't wipe out the human race; humans are pretty resilient. But in all likelihood the survivors will be hunting rats with sticks for a couple of centuries while trying to rebuild the smashed and blighted remains of what once was civilization before religulous idiocy served as the justification for blowing it up to make The Invisible Skydaddy happy.

[lame54]

15. then why didn't it happen in the 40's?

[DetlefK]

19. Israel was founded after WWII.

Israel was conquered by the Babylonians in biblical times and from this point on it was passed from empire to empire.

If I'm not mistaken:
Babylonians -> Persians -> Romans -> various muslim empires, the last of which was the Osmanic Empire -> British Empire

When the Brits founded Israel after WWII, that was the first time in millennia that an independent nation Israel existed.

[lame54]

20. that I know...

But the scenario is backwards

the holocaust led to the state of Israel

[asiliveandbreathe]

18. Backmann - the gift that just keeps on giving..republicans

must be so proud..

Folk's - this is what scares me....

I beg you - please get out the vote....

[Gormy Cuss]

21. Why yes, because they don't like Jews at all. They're just useful for fulfilling this prophecy n/t

[DirkGently]

23. Well of course.

They see Israelis as place-keepers until J.C. comes back and incinerates all the non-fundamentalist Christians.

Pretty ghoulish basis for a political alliance, but there it is.

[hifiguy]

32. Christianity is ghoulish from the ground floor up.

"Eat the flesh and drink the blood of a Jewish zombie to become immortal" is a spectacularly fucked-up and incomprehensible world view by any rational standard of evaluation.

[MFrohike]

24. One quibble

It's not Bronze Age prophecy that's at issue. It's biblical literalists who conveniently forget their central premise, scripture alone, when it comes to wacky 18th century Scottish preachers with a taste for the dramatic. If you can leave aside the nastier implications of what it means (like the above), then it gets quite funny to hear them condemn their forbears in Rome for not solely adhering to scripture while pimping this wacky line of bullshit.

[LiberalAndProud]

25. So you're saying it's not the text, it's the reader?

It's a shame that taking the Bible literally leads to such backward thinking. As a moral guide, the Bible leaves much to be interpreted and much to be desired, as does, I'm told by Tariq Ramadan, the Q'ran.

[MFrohike]

28. Of course

That's true of any book. The reader chooses what he or she finds significant or meaningful. There's obviously more to it than that, but that's the essence.

As a moral guide, I think it depends on how it's read. If you read it in terms of "love your neighbor" and realize just how broad that is, then it's absolutely first-rate. That commandment, found in both the Old and New Testaments, is often given lip service, but little more. It's a very bitter command because of how broad it is. There's a reason most people go running from it. It quite literally requires one to love the very people who hate, attack, oppress, rob, murder, etc. My personal feeling is that after a person absorbs that, the rest gradually, note I said gradually, falls into its proper place as to importance and relevance. I tend to think that whatever you find that contradicts that commandment, or can't be reconciled with it, is to be given minimal importance (I don't want to say ignored, but I wouldn't quibble with anyone who said that).

[elleng]

26. No sh*t, sherlock!

[Scurrilous]

30. And the right wing pols in Israel play public patty cake w/ these people.

It's a @#$% madhouse!!

[hifiguy]

33. Those pols are laughing all the way

To the bank. And they are laughing their asses off at the fundies too, just not in public, while they are fleecing the nitwits.