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When we have to careful because a lunatic like trump can take the white house (it will never happen)
But
Bernie, who is winning, can't possibly win
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Sure Hillary will try to think of the peasantry and will try to get some corporate friendly laws passed that will help for instance lower interest rates on student loans and she will improve pell grants. Jeb won't do anything like that. He will probably double down on "no child left behind" which is a money windfall for his brother and others. Neil Bush benefitted enormously from software that preps students to pass the tests. On another brain fart not in your post, Bernie would try to get us tuition free college, hopefully paid for by taxes on corporations who benefit from an educated workforce. (Not a policy of Bernies but one I hope he looks at.)
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Would he build another White House because the original is old and shabby like Nancy Reagan did when Ronnie became Governor of California? Nancy refused to live in the Governor's mansion because it was old and creaky. Would he replace Air Force One with a fancier one? I can't really see him doing anything for the country other than making himself comfortable while in office and further feathering his nest.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Neither can Trump. The election is 15 months away, Trump and Bernie will be past history a year from now.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Look at his record. He has gotten elected in various offices as a socialist democrat in a state of white rural people that votes mostly Republican.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I think Bernie can win. I hope so anyway.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
treestar
(82,383 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)And you are obviously in possession of facts that we do not have.
Please share them with us.
I for one am all ears.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I wish I had a good punch line for that, but the weird get going just doesn't fit this case.
Uncle Joe
(58,506 posts)Bernie is laying out the truth behind the anger, whereas Trump with his "blunt talk" is diverting it.
Thanks for the thread, lame.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)All of "this" strikes me as the respective Dem and Republican bases shaking their collective ids.
Bernie's "longshot" status is vastly more realistic than Trump's. He is, after all, a career political leader with detailed (incredibly detailed) thoughts on policy and so forth, whereas Trump just kind of yells stuff.
But Bernie's still a longshot.
Trump is something else. I don't contest the idea that America is in fact dumb enough to elect an obnoxious New York real estate developer who calls Mexican immigrants "rapists" and is best known publicly for saying nasty things about Rosie O'Donnell to the White House.
But it's highly, highly unlikely. I'm not even entirely convinced Trump wants to be President. His entire strength lies in the fact he has utter contempt for the Republican Party and politics in general. He is doing weird things like giving out Lindsey Graham's cell phone number and leaving Democrats largely alone.
I think he is the embodiment of the Republican base yelling at the Republican establishment. They had one "revolution" in the Tea Party, and didn't like where that went. But they did like the anger and the anti-establishment rhetoric. So they want him out there, yelling all the things they yell at their television, out loud.
For now.
But if the election were tomorrow, I don't think there would be a Donald Trump candidacy. I think it will evaporate at some point, although it's already gone on longer than most would have guessed.
The U.K. only allows much less time -- a few weeks? of campaigning. Imagine how much less bullshit we would be subjected to if people had to focus on electing a viable leader in a short period of time.
We'd have no time for "The Donald."
lame54
(35,343 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)I'm heartened Bernie's doing so much better than expected, but he is in no way the consensus front runner at this point.
spanone
(135,921 posts)we're just now finding out how much
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Yes, it can.