My Pragmatic Daughter asked me to watch this from Bill Maher...I'm not a fan of him...

[KoKo]

and her husband is a Fundie Guy (Reforming ...but, still not there yet for We Democrats) ..and so she was glad he was not there when she watched it.

She called and said..."I think I understand what You and Daddy have been talking about all these years!

My daughter, {the lovely Pragmatist)...... (if she had been old enough would have voted for Reagan) ...this Bill Maher editorial somehow moved her "Left" on the Scale to understand what we've been talking about, and even marching about (the 99% of us who CARE). She thought this was just incredible and called us to tell us about it.

She likes Obama..but, this (she said) made her wonder about where he's been going.

Here's the Bill Maher Video:

[pa28]

1. Great rant. K&R

[goclark]

2. K and R

Bill was kicking it!

[RainDog]

3. this is a great segment

that has made the rounds among a lot of people I know - so that's a good thing.

the HONEST, honest, honest truth about these right wing attacks on Obama as a radical stem from one thing: the color of his skin.

it's a joke for anyone to try to claim he's a radical. - or it's a ploy to take away some of his ability to work on various issues.

but there's no reality behind it.

it's a sort of litmus test, to me. If someone says Obama is a radical, it's like a great big welt appears on the forehead that says "racist."

[sabrina 1]

4. I just wish he would do what they are accusing him of. ThenI and Bill Maher at least, would

happy and that's better than everyone being unhappy.

If he would switch parties though, they would love him, just as he is.

[PragmaticLiberal]

8. Nope.

If he switched parties they would think he's a RHINO and boot him out of office.

[sabrina 1]

12. I doubt it, they want to win. They are such hypocrites, everything they criticize him for now

they would agree with if he was a Republican. After the election he could switch back. That would be fun.

[hay rick]

9. So what are they calling the election in November?

Just another Republican primary.

[sabrina 1]

11. No, they think Obama is a raging, liberal, leftwing commie.

Which only goes to show how stupid they are.

[diatribe]

22. i think the reality is

If you could agree that not every crazy radical statement from either side is the sole opinion of the majority of either party then I would have to disagree with the race comment.

Sure, there are some right wing people that don't like him because he's half black. There are lots of hardcore leftist blacks that hate the "white man" but I don't believe the Democratic party overall is racist. The, what I believe to be, honest truth of it is that a majority of right wingers really just don't like his proposed policies.

Someone else says later that if Obama switched sides that &quot we'd) accept him as he is." That is true, if he were to understand the policies the GOP and want to put them into law, we would accept him.

I believe that if that last statement is true, then those that would accept him, truly can't despise him for being half black. I think hatred of race would be stronger than acceptance of political ideals and much harder to make a compromise, if someone were to be a true racist.

I also always found it odd that leftists weren't happy with Obama because he wasn't Left enough and GOP hated him for being too far left.

Btw, did you notice that the 2009 Stimulus numbers were in Bush's column and that Obama's numbers started at 2010? It stated that the 2009 Stimulus re-assigned to Obama, so why didn't it show in his column? And to be honest, the Democrats took over in 2006 so they had a running head start in spending numbers to include the Bush years, right?

And the only reason he isn't a "true radical" is because he hasn't been able to achieve what he had planned. If he did, then it would have been "radical" to what the norm of the time was.

[Martin Eden]

27. What you think is far from reality

You're not completely off base in your comments about racism, but your last 3 paragraphs reveal more spin than reality.

I don't doubt you find it odd that "leftists" (more often than not a pejorative used by the right) aren't happy with Obama's tack to the center while the GOP (why not the pejorative "rightwingers"?) hate him for being too far left. What I find "odd" or lacking in this comment of yours is an acknowledgement that Obama has indeed acted as a centrist while all the noise from the right about Obama being a radical leftist is just that -- noise.

FYI, the federal budget for fiscal year 2009 was passed under the Bush administration, just as FY2013 will be attributed to Obama's first term. And do you really think a significant driver of spending during the Bush administration was legislation passed in 2007-2008 by the Democratic congress and signed into law by GW Bush? If so, please identify that legislation and compare it to spending for the Prescription Drug bill crafted by the pharmaceutical industry and the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq.

Finally, please spell out for us the "true radical" plans President Obama would have put into place if only the Dems hadn't lost control of Congress. Do you think the American Jobs Act he proposed last year (which was DOA in the GOP House) is a piece of leftist radicalism? What about things over which President Obama does have control, such as appointees to his economic team (Geithner, Summers)?

You are very much in need of a reality check.

[CJCRANE]

32. But the crazy radical statements from the right

come from elected Republican politicians. Thats the difference.

But the point of Maher's rant is that Republicans keep moving the goalposts.

Republicans now not only disagree with Democrats but they also disagree with recent past versions of themselves! GW Bush, past Romney and even Reagan's actual policies are not conservative enough for them!

[ejbr]

5. k & r n/t

[Voice for Peace]

6. great segment

shared on FB. Thanks!

[MannyGoldstein]

7. Bravo and thank you.

Spot on.

[think]

10. It is a shame we have to hear this from Bill Maher rather than a prominent Democrat.

[Life Long Dem]

13. Go Bill!

[jimlup]

14. "We're lame but the other guys are nuts!"

Is unfortunately truer than it should be.

[Speck Tater]

17. +1000. The whole situation in a nut shell! nt

[marlakay]

15. They hit us for being far left

just so they can keep us like we actually are…it is lame. Bill is right!

[awoke_in_2003]

16. He shoots, he scores. Nt

[progressoid]

18. Hits it out of the fucking park!

[drm604]

19. Excellent. K&R

[Honeycombe8]

20. That was great! I was just asking someone yesterday, "Just what ARE the Repubs so mad about?"

Exactly what has Obama done that they are so angry about? Honestly, I can't think of one thing, except that lame excuse of the mandate, WHICH WAS A REPUBLICAN IDEA TO BEGIN WITH. And the Dems seem as upset by that as anyone else.

[LittleGirl]

21. I stand with Maher

and I wished I could watch his show (but I'm not signing back up with cable and adding HBO to that cost). Thank you for posting this. It's early and I watched it twice. I believe this is one of his best monologues ever.

And, by the way, what is the Dem plan?

[chervilant]

23. Turn Dick Cheney over to the Hague...

Let's add Dubyah, Condi, and the rest of the war criminals from the Dark Ages Administration.

[TahitiNut]

30. Amen.

[mmonk]

24. Best description on why reality based conversations are impossible

to engage in in today's USA. It's also why we currently are not in control of our destiny.

[Martin Eden]

25. Bill Maher is mostly spot-on (mostly)

Maher knocks several out of the park, but when he states the Democrats don't have a plan he apparently forgot about President Obama's American Jobs Act, which, of course, was DOA in the GOP-controlled House:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/08/fact-sheet-american-jobs-act

Whether or not you agree with everything in that plan, the point here is that this Democratic president has one.

The Republican plan is obstruct, obstruct, obstruct, and prevent economic recovery as much as possible so they can blame it on Obama.

[whathehell]

26. Hillarious and so true!...n/t

[Pat Riot]

28. Just one small disagreement

Ted Nugent wipe his ass with his hand? I think he doesn't wipe at all. Nasty crazy chickenhawk.

http://blog.reidreport.com/2012/04/ted-nugent-draft-dodger/

[cocopuff]

29. let's see if this gets censored too

This website discourages use of inflammatory language, bigotry and in general "hate" speech; yet, it is surprisingly very common in most posters comments, (as long as they are in agreement with the "group think" on this site); including this clip from Bill Maher who wishes a fellow American jailed or dead. I'm not worried that this will even get read or be around for long because to even raise a question in opposition, apparently to the "group think" on this site, will get you censored and removed from the thread. It is with irony then that this site calls itself the "Democratic Underground" when to have a dissenting view makes you "public enemy number 1" and freedom of speech or any type of meaningful discussion is virtually non-existent. Good day to all of you angry, ill-informed people out there who actually consider Bill Maher a credible source of information.

[FourScore]

31. Bill Maher at his best. n/t

[Gregorian]

33. That was about as spot on as it gets.

Unfortunately.