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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo my 75 year old Dad got hit with a Rick Scott voter purge gimmick.
He received a letter in the mail indicating that he needed to verify where he lived by filling out the enclosed form and mailing it back to the election office.
He did move last year to a new apartment, but when he updated his drivers license at the DL office, he clearly asked them to reflect it on his voter ID.
Here's the thing.... this is what Rick and his goons are hoping for... they are hoping that my elderly father who is a registered Democrat, fails to complete and return the form thus making this Born in America, 75 year old Vet, ineligible to vote on election day.
America---ya gotta love it.
irisblue
(33,047 posts)No, thank-you!!
JEB
(4,748 posts)Seriously? I am seeing on DU a proposal to fuck someone with a wire brush? this makes me sick. What is wrong with people these days?
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)I would think with the disenfranchisement, graft, persecution of the elderly, the young, of state employees and the destitute via his drug testing program, any reality where ricky there is not being continually violated with a wirebrush (anal: alright, urethral: even better) seems a bit off kilter.
Catharsis takes a lot of forms, picturing someone that has placed themselves firmly in the 'enemy' column in the grossest amount of physical discomfort works for some folks, better than acting on it at least.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)in his KY jelly
librechik
(30,678 posts)too bad it's hardly ever prosecuted
trumad
(41,692 posts)Voter caging is a method of challenging the registration status of voters to potentially prevent them from voting in an election. It refers to the practice of sending direct mail to addressees on the voter rolls, compiling a list of addressees from which the mail is returned undelivered, and using that list to purge or challenge voters registrations on the grounds that the voters do not legally reside at registered addresses. This typically results in the voters' having their votes discarded or submitted through the use of provisional ballots requiring further registration confirmation.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caging_%28voter_suppression%29
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)librechik
(30,678 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,822 posts)Doncha know, Eric's got important work to do, far more important than ensuring the integrity of the voting process, one of our most precious and critical rights as a democracy, and stopping fraudulent voting purges. He's busy with going after those true American scofflaws, medical marijuana users. People trying to manage their nausea, fatigue and pain of chronic/terminal illnesses by using a particular drug are far more dangerous to the fabric of our society than stopping blatant partisan voter fraud! Where're your priorities, man?
TBF
(32,118 posts)and not grab leftists (Freedom Socialist Party Members, Occupy Members, etc ...) in their sleep I'd be a lot happier with Holder.
Brother Buzz
(36,490 posts)Special to the Arkansas Times
by Greg Palast (New York, London)
When Tim Griffin resigned his post as interim federal prosecutor a day after the BBC broadcast linking him to illegal "voter caging," Griffin insisted he did not know what "caging" was.
Griffin, currently the Republican candidate for Congress in Arkansas's Second District, said he only found out after the BBC report that "caging" is a term "used in the direct mail" business.
That's correct, Mr. Griffin: it's an address capture scheme which, when used against voters of color, is a federal crime.
Right here, printed above, is an email sent by Griffin with the subject line, "Caging" with lists attached of soldiers and homeless men whose votes the Republican National Committee wanted the Bush campaign to challenge.
So, if Griffin's name is listed as the author of the "caging" memo, how the heck could he not know what he was saying and sending?
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http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2010/10/20/a-theory-on-tim-griiffins-caging
aggiesal
(8,943 posts)But since the Governor or Secretary of State or County Registrar Of Voters
(which can all be partisan towards one party) sent it, this is considered perfectly legal.
It is under the guise of cleaning up voter rolls of people who may have died,
moved out of the area or state or stationed outside the area or state.
Of course there is nothing stopping the Governor, SoS or the ROV from sharing
this information with their partisan party.
They usually send out these notices to people who are registered, but have not
voted in the last (x) elections.
It affects the elderly (death), College students (attend schools outside their
voting district), and Military Personnel (Soldiers stations outside their voting
district), disproportionately.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)We are supposedly as Americans presumed to be innocent and the burden of proof falls upon the state.... It would seem they have to prove people are ineligble to vote, not just say they are and lay the task of having to prove eligibility upon the person.. I would think a few civil suits could be brought on those ground alone..
trumad
(41,692 posts)It would break my heart if this old long time Democrat went to vote only to be turned away.
lookingfortruth
(263 posts)in person to the election's office and all the major local and national outlets to join in the fun at the office.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)AC_Mem
(1,979 posts)Attorneys should be advertising this all over Florida television!
mainer
(12,037 posts)Someone should get a copy of the "official" letter and address one to every GOP voter. See how they feel about having their right to vote question.
mercuryblues
(14,552 posts)got one of those a while back. It came directly from the republican party in DC. I contacted my local Dem HQ, scanned it and e-mailed it to them.
Then I filled out the form, wiped my ass with it and mailed it back to the repukes in DC.
tapermaker
(244 posts)mercuryblues
(14,552 posts)My spouse got this less than 3 months after sending in his first donation to the Dem party. He consistantly votes in the D primaries, yet the repukes sent him this pre-paid 1st class letter. If it wasn't returned withing a specific time period he would have been purged.
They got what I thought of them and their tactics to DENY a person their RIGHT to vote.
spanone
(135,919 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,775 posts)It's important to be consistent.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)...that they are so arrogant as to even attempt such a thing. What will they do next??
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Her in New Mexico or republican governor decided it would be a good idea to change the pooling place...I have been voting at the same location for the more than 20 years I have been there...and you can bet some will get there on election day and no one will be home...so they will just go home too without voting....and I live in a district that is heavily democratic.
You really don't have to do one big thing..several little ones will do and will draw less attention.
The Wizard
(12,552 posts)should be publicly executed with a dull sword.
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)....but what are the chances this Voldemort clone will be voted out in 2014? Can you recall him?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)This should be illegal.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)can take to encourage the Justice Department to get involved!!
http://www.credoaction.com/campaign/holder_florida_voterpurge/?rc=homepage
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Thanks, annabanana.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)When Cali talks, Holder listens..
(Now then, about that torture business. . . . )
crunch60
(1,412 posts)action on it? I think not. He is useless on important issues.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)How in the hell can they get away with doing this?
kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)What I would love to see is a bunch of older veterans, alongside the younger ones asking Rick Scott how much more they have to do for their country in order to be given his blessing.
I'm sorry about all this Tru. I just hope it hasn't given your father any unnecessary stress. BTW, thank him for me. Not just for his service, but for being a Democrat and raising a Democrat.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)The only reason that republicans think that Democrats practice voter fraud is transference of republican practices onto Dems.
It's a pain in the ass to fight for the right to vote, but then it was a pain in the ass to fight WWII or Korea so that everyone could vote.
The truth seems to be, even an old Vet can never stop fighting for the right to vote.
NoMoreWarNow
(1,259 posts)fuck Rick Scott-- inhuman bastard
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Somebody ELSE can fuck Rick Scott.... with Ann Coulter's D**K!
GarroHorus
(1,055 posts)There is no other description or word that will fit what they are doing.
These are EVIL people, and Rick Scott is purely EVIL.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Get this far down the pipe line?
I mean really ask your self - where are the establishment dems that this gets this far?
What are they doing?
*** rhetorical I hope you realize.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Dem leadership types have an irritating habit of waiting for republicans to put this stuff in place and then they file lawsuits.. In the meantime, people are cut from registration lists, made to jump through flaming hoops to vote, or just give up because they often find out too late to act themselves.
We KNOW this is how republicans "win" elections, and yet our leadership always seems startled when they do it. They are willing to spend bazillions on lawsuits that take years to settle, and while they are doing that, republicans are putting their next plan into action.
Republicans tell us over and over , what they have planned, and while the ordinary people seem to get it, the leadership somehow believes that lawsuits will scare them into NOT doing it.
Elections are funny things. When someone loses because there was cheating going on, it's too late for them to be an effective change-mechanism, since they are out of office then...and if they squeak by and win, they push it all aside and forget about changes that need to be made for next time.
Republicans think a generation ahead, and I'm sure they already have their next thing in the works.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)TBF
(32,118 posts)spanone
(135,919 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)is horrible. As an American citizen, you have the right to vote (I think of it as a responsibility to do so). It's clear that they want to deprive Democratic voters of their voting rights.
Im thinking even if he did mail it back they would conveniently lose it, until after the election.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I know it's just anecdotal, but it seems as though the reported incidents hint that the scope of this caging is far wider than the 2,600 figure that has been cited in the media.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)When I tried to inform him how our democracy was being utterly undermined by election fraud by the republicans he countered that Chicago has a lengthy history of the dead voting for Democrats. His position was that election fraud was equally rampant. I could not get him to understand the difference between voter fraud and election fraud and naturally he accepted the two as being the same. When pressed he simply refused to accept my assertion that less than a dozen cases of actual voter fraud are prosecuted for each election cycle, that these fraudulent votes are statistically unable to sway any election. To him, facts were only 'my facts' vs 'his facts' and mine were the ones distorted!
aggiesal
(8,943 posts)"Please Do Not Forward"?
If a political party sent this out it would be considered illegal (Caging Voters).
But since the Governor or Secretary of State or County Registrar Of Voters (which can all be partisan towards one party)
sent it, this is considered perfectly legal. It is under the guise of cleaning up voter rolls of people who may have died,
moved out of the area or state or stationed outside the area or state.
This affects the elderly, college students and military personnel disproportionately.
They usually send it to registered voters that have not voted in the last (x) voting cycles.
Here in San Diego, it's usually the last 3 elections.