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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts) Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:18 AM Mar 2016

Tactically I am glad Trump's speeches are being shut down.

It makes him look like a candidate who is courting chaos and division. Actually he is knowingly, willfully, and deliberately courting chaos and division. And there are not enough chaos and division fans to swing an election.

Putting that aside, I can believe that anti-semitism, racism, homophobia, nativism, xenophobia, sexism, and misogyny, et cetera have no place in the public square and also believe anti-semites, racists, homophobes, nativists, xenophobes, and misogynists, et cetera have a right to be heard.

The antidote to bad speech is good speech.

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Tactically I am glad Trump's speeches are being shut down. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 OP

It depends how it is covered by the news media. A CNN/ORC survey showed that 1 in 5 Americans still_one Mar 2016 #1

Not enough incipient fascists or devotees of one to win an election. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #2

Well, guess what, DSB? All that (racism...etc) WAS HEARD and that other free speech took care of it. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #3

don't be so sure about them "being shut down" Enrique Mar 2016 #4

How about going to a rally and remaining quiet exboyfil Mar 2016 #5

I don't get to circumscribe the parameters of the protest. I get that. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #6

trump rallies are stoking the fires and to me, they require beachbum bob Mar 2016 #7

still_one

(92,570 posts)

1. It depends how it is covered by the news media. A CNN/ORC survey showed that 1 in 5 Americans

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:34 AM

Mar 2016

believe the president is not an American citizen. I lay the blame squarely on the media for that falsehood

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)

2. Not enough incipient fascists or devotees of one to win an election.

Reply to still_one (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:37 AM

Mar 2016

Nobody wants four or eight years of chaos.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)

3. Well, guess what, DSB? All that (racism...etc) WAS HEARD and that other free speech took care of it.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:40 AM

Mar 2016

Thanks to all those students defending their campus.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)

4. don't be so sure about them "being shut down"

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:40 AM

Mar 2016

Rachel Maddow is making a pretty good case that this is a narrative being created by Trump for political purposes. If that's true, that narrative is something we would not want to accept as fact at DU.

exboyfil

(17,867 posts)

5. How about going to a rally and remaining quiet

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:41 AM

Mar 2016

until Trump says something objectionable. Then start with the loud protests. Make sure that you have plenty of camera coverage. When you first go to the protest do not be wearing anything that would trigger removal.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)

6. I don't get to circumscribe the parameters of the protest. I get that.

Reply to exboyfil (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:45 AM

Mar 2016

In an ideal world there would have been a counter-rally and the protesters in the hall could have turned their backs on him, unfolded signs held by dozens of people, et cetera.

I just am concerned about the principle of free speech. If folks I dislike can be shut down than so , presumably, can folks I like.

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)

7. trump rallies are stoking the fires and to me, they require

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:14 AM

Mar 2016

immediate attention....free speech has a price and when you expouse hate, racism and violence...let the chips fall. America will prevail against the hate in the end. I am proud of chicago

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