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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat's with Trump's marriage?
Is it just a marriage of convenience?
I saw something about an interview a view years ago where Melania was asked if she married Trump for his money and her reply was that he wouldn't have married her if she didn't look the way she does.
And now she has pretty much disappeared and the kids have taken over.
Weird.
JHan
(10,173 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,255 posts).
Swept up in some Scientology-like program to keep her out of Herr Drumpf's way.
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JHan
(10,173 posts)vrguy
(236 posts)Its quite telling that it seems as if she has opted out of going to DC..the guise is that its temporary but methinks she has no intention of ever living there, hence the Ivanka will assume the duties of first lady bla bla bla
treestar
(82,383 posts)she cooperates in that idea that men are buying the best looking woman they can get. Gives them an example when they mansplain to us that we are looking for them to be successful so they should get to judge us just on looks.
It sounds defensive on her part too, like of course she married him for money, doesn't want to admit that, so talks about her side of the bargain.
And plastic surgery makes her look worse - IMO they look old in a weird way rather than a natural way. But it's sort of cooperating too, admitting hey I am getting older and he's entitled to the most of what he bought.
whathehell
(29,110 posts)lostnfound
(16,203 posts)She has a son to worry about and an abusive spouse. It's not always easy for a woman to decide how to cope with her choices when there's another small person depending on them.
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)Melania's not moving to the White House. There's your answer. And it probably isn't her idea not to do that.
Trump's ready for the next new model. Melania gets whatever payout is in the prenup. Early in 2017, I imagine. Watch for a "tremendous" White House wedding for Trump and his next model wife.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,317 posts)MineralMan
(146,351 posts)There's no question in my mind as to who decided Melania isn't going to live in the White House. That has all the earmarks of a Donald edict. So, the marriage will soon be over. Who will be the next Mrs. Trump? Time will tell
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)He is about the most unappealing person I can mention. He is just plain creepy.
And trying to live with that ego? Awful in every way.
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)Some people will do almost anything for those.
meow2u3
(24,776 posts)The guy is up to his eyeballs in debt and won't admit it!
That's how come I think he cheated his way to the White House--to use taxpayer money to pay off his debts to Putin and his cronies.
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)other people's money. Hard to tell the difference, really.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Maybe she just closes her eyes and turns out all the lights.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Imagine that comb over and over and over traipsing from his mostly bald pate...
pangaia
(24,324 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)It's clear that he prefers Eastern European wives (2/3). Maybe Putin offered him a hot blonde in exchange for the election.
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)Maybe he won't feel the need for a new wife. She can provide the female touch in the White House residence.
vanlassie
(5,695 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,418 posts)"no" to his offer of Melania in the Lincoln Bedroom when he comes to visit (she's too old), and insisted on
Ivanka instead.
Who knows? The whole set-up is creepy.
Ilsa
(61,714 posts)they divide it up. I doubt Putin will allow dt to take the entire western hemisphere.
Crunchy Frog
(26,719 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)and the ladies they bring in for tryouts.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)You know what one of the auditions will entail.......
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)and medical science can't come up with a damn pill to make it "up" again...if you get my drift...
Maru Kitteh
(28,348 posts)Ugh. Now I have a headache.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,987 posts)Just, eww. They made their deal: she gets to live in luxury and he gets an attractive, much younger trophy wife. He probably gets sex (if he can even do it, being old and obviously unhealthy) from call girls so she doesn't have to put up with that nastiness any more. He'll probably trade her in on a younger one before long - she's well into her 40s, after all - so she's probably just biding her time until she can collect her alimony, take her kid and get away.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I don't even want to meet Donald Trump. The thought of living with him is absolutely horrific.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)It's like a business transaction between these two.
Now Trump and Ivanka....
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Of course, although they all had that Ozzie and Harriet vibe going on, but there wasn't any doubt that they were affectionate and intimate behind closed doors. Besides, they all weren't serial philanderers and marriage junkies like the Donald and his latest Trophy wife.
No... He and the Nude Model are quite businesslike indeed.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)When they were, it was strictly for show and without conversation. Pat drank more and more martinis herself once they exited the White House and was in a pretty good stupor much of the time. She had trouble remembering things.
That included even where her own house was. Agents heard a rustling in the bushes at the San Clemente, CA house one day and suspected it was illegal immigrants coming up on the beach to cross over into the United States. But it was Pat in the bushes on her hands and knees trying to find the house.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2717322/Richard-Nixon-ate-dog-biscuits-got-looped-martinis-walked-beach-suit-lace-ups-spied-Ted-Kennedy-New-book-reveals-Tricky-Dicks-bizarre-behavior-forced-resign-presidency-40-years-ago.html
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)The Nixons were quite typical of normal relationships that falter.
Trump, on the other hand, marries as if he's engaging in hostile takeover mergers.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)The one thing I remember about Pat Nixon's funeral is Richard Nixon crying at the burial ceremony. Is there any reason he would cry like that if he and his wife were so distant?
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Bettie
(16,149 posts)his real wife is his daughter.
CrispyQ
(36,566 posts)It's creepy.
forgotmylogin
(7,540 posts)He utilizes them while they are pretty and then turns them in for a newer model.
safeinOhio
(32,754 posts)Donald kills Moose and Squirrel".
Maru Kitteh
(28,348 posts)Thanks
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)They've been married for awhile, and maybe he was tolerable back then and she wanted money and a place to live in the United States. Then she had Barron, who some suspect might have autism. People who have autistic kids or work with them noticed similar signs in the acceptance video on election night. The reason for Melania's first lady platform to combat bullying, maybe? I would imagine even a wealthy rich kid with autism can be bullied by other entitled rich kids at rich private schools. Then, even though it's only talk at this point, Tom Arnold saying he saw outtakes of the Apprentice where Donald Trump called his son "retarded".
Despite who Melania is or why she came to be Mrs. Trump, there is a fierceness in a mother's love for her child. He mocks people who aren't "normal" or beautiful or how he expects them to be. Maybe she sees what we see and much more up close and personal and doesn't like it.
GoCubsGo
(32,102 posts)And, who could blame her? When I heard the excuse that she was staying in NYC, because didn't want to make her kid change schools in the middle of the year, I figured it was more that she just didn't want the the job. I figured she was just using the kid as an excuse. But, with Tom Arnold's accusations coming out, one has to wonder if there is something to the talk about autism. Autistic kids don't always handle change very well. If this is the case, I'm sure she doesn't subject her child to that massive a change. But, I have little doubt his father would want to avoid having him that close to the spotlight, out of fear that the world would discover that he fathered a "defective" (in his eyes) child. Just look at how he and his handlers reacted when Rosie O'Donnell made her statement suggesting that his kid has this condition.
UTUSN
(70,790 posts)Besides using the n- & c- words, all on tape, but Mark BURNETT threatened them all against releasing stuf with their non-disclosure contracts.
Generator
(7,770 posts)(of course I don't know what kid he referred to) But I can imagine any "defect" in a child of the orange scumwad is not tolerated. He believes in the master race no doubt.
Maru Kitteh
(28,348 posts)Children fathered by men that late in life face an increased risk of all manner of challenges.
I feel so sorry for that kid. Both of his parents are wretched and poor examples of humanity. I fear he's doomed.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)jaxind
(1,074 posts)Why would anyone have cared about the breaking the non-disclosure clause?? I am sure any wealthy Democrat would have paid the penalty, and even paid a bonus for coming out with the dirt of what Trump said during The Apprentice! Would there have been some jail time involved for breaking the clause??
Crunchy Frog
(26,719 posts)She was never hired for the role of "First Lady".
TeamPooka
(24,296 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)he blames his youngest sons condition on her and not on the fact he was getting so old that the chances of this happening was too great to take a chance.
Hell I chose to not father kids because of my exposure to Agent Orange. I had enough sense to know that the chances of problems were too great to take a chance.
Thats why I'm step dad now
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)UTUSN
(70,790 posts)lanlady
(7,136 posts)She probably needs to stay in Trump Tower so she can continue to communicate securely with Moscow Center.
cornball 24
(1,482 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)She will never want for anything.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)His legacy will be losing the popular vote by the biggest margin ever, having the most bankruptcies by far and the most failed marriages.
What a loser.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)And he wants more nukes and he is starting a witch hunt 9f employees that work on things he wants to kill.
He is just awful.
pfitz59
(10,419 posts)Vinca
(50,331 posts)R B Garr
(17,019 posts)Well, more than a couple, but these two really stick out.
Early in Trump's campaign during the primaries, they were on stage after he won some contests apparently to her surprise and she realized she might be forced to deal with this in a long haul. Instead of joy at his win, she had a resigned, distant look of resignation and disappointment, but then she realized the cameras were still rolling and she perked up and put on a smile. But there was no mistaking that she had made some unpleasant mental notes about where she fit in with all of this and she internalized it in a very disappointed way.
Again during the primaries after a win, Trump's kids joined him onstage, and Melania quickly faded herself into the background when Ivanka came into view more. She instinctively turned away from Ivanka and faded into the background. That told a huge story about their marriage. She obviously knew that Ivanka was boss and she knew to surrender her position to her, or else.
It will be interesting to see what becomes of their marriage.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)It's not about love or anything real. The way they interact with each other looks like they tolerate each other. It's about looking good in a picture. She is a stepford wife. At least she gets a break from him staying in New York.
Paladin
(28,287 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)I have been reading Game Change, the book about the 2008 election. One section in the book discussed John McCain's marriage. The description of the marriage made it seem like, for the most part, John and Cindy McCain were two people who did not like being together, but just stayed married and, maybe, lived separate lives. On a number of occasions when they were together, they fought and cursed each other out. After reading about the McCain marriage I began to wonder if the Trump marriage was similar to the McCain marriage.
Caliman73
(11,760 posts)Trump has had 3 wives. He cheated on the first with the second, and I believe the second with the third. Prior to being married, he was a sexually promiscuous man who bragged about his conquests.
The answer is that Trump does not value women as people but as objects that he can use for his own pleasure and status. Even his children are only a value for him as long as they follow his path and are loyal only to him. He has said as much in interviews saying something to the effect that he didn't really take interest until they began to be able to discuss business and show an interest in what he did.
Trump appears to be a man with a huge void in his personality that he is trying to fill with money, women, power, etc... He is not a happy person and will not be because he ultimately doesn't even value himself.