The Uncomfortable Love Affair Between Donald Trump and the New England Patriots

[DemocratSinceBirth]

“I’m not talking politics at all,” Tom Brady said in response to the first of several questions about, predictably, politics. Brady has been getting a lot of these, beginning with Super Bowl week’s Opening Night on Monday at Minute Maid Park in Houston. This is not your average stick-to-sports Super Bowl week in America. The chaos in Washington, bedlam at airports and protests across the country serve as an unsettling crowd noise to even the serene superstar quarterback for the New England Patriots.

Brady is friends with President Trump. So are the Patriots’ owner, Robert Kraft, and Coach Bill Belichick. No sports team has been more closely associated with a new president, or perhaps any president, at least since Richard Nixon very publicly adopted the Washington Redskins as his own and even called occasional plays for Coach George Allen. Like Trump, the Patriots are a divisive juggernaut that tend to engender strong passions for and against. The team represents a kind of sporting ideal of Trump’s promise to make “America win so much, you’ll be bored of winning.” New England, which will appear in an N.F.L.-record ninth Super Bowl on Sunday, is a team that wins so much that a lot of America has become, yes, bored of its winning. And no small number of fans are convinced that the Patriots (like Trump) achieve their victories through dubious means and wish they would just go away and get off their TVs forever.

The three main architects of the team’s success — Kraft, Belichick and Brady — have taken pains to emphasize that their allegiance to Trump is based on friendship and loyalty, nothing more. They play golf and attend weddings and call to congratulate one another on elections and Super Bowl wins, those kinds of everyday things.

They are quick to assert their bipartisan or apolitical bona fides. Kraft has been a supporter of many Democrats and Democratic causes over the years; Belichick declared himself apolitical in response to queries last fall after Trump at a campaign rally in New Hampshire read aloud from an effusive note of congratulations that Belichick had sent him.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/magazine/the-uncomfortable-love-affair-between-donald-trump-and-the-new-england-patriots.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

[yeoman6987]

1. I don't care. I want patriots to win. Politics in entertainment is not needed.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. If

If You were a German in 1933 would you root for or against a soccer team whose coach wrote similar words about Hitler:

Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have to help with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You have proven to be the ultimate competitor fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you for the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrow’s election, the results will give the opportunity to make America great again.

Best wishes for great results tomorrow,

Bill Belichick

BTW, I was going to see Gold later. Now I am not because of Matthew McConaughey's remarks about Drumpf and he wasn't nearly as effusive in his praise as Belichick. I also boycott Susan Sarandon's films because she undermined Hillary.

[yeoman6987]

7. I don't deprive myself of a movie if it's good due to an actor

If that's the case I'd never see a movie. Hollywood who doesn't have equal pay for equal work. Who doesn't support minorities or gays unless forced and has to boycott academy awards. Hollywood is not all that in equality except for talk.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Would you go to a movie that was directed by Leni Riefenstahl ?

[yeoman6987]

9. Have no idea who that is.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Helene Bertha Amalie "Leni" Riefenstahl

Helene Bertha Amalie "Leni" Riefenstahl was a German film director, producer, screenwriter, editor, photographer, actress, dancer and propagandist for the Nazis.

[msanthrope]

24. Imagine, you make a film about the Berlin Olympics and forget to mention

Jesse Owens.....because you're too busy fluffing up the Nazi body type.

Triumph of the Will and Olympiad are truly the greatest propaganda films ever made.

[jeffreyi]

12. No.

Marlene Dietrich, most emphatically YES

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/19/bombshells-a-critic-at-large-pierpont

[RandiFan1290]

20. Cool story, bro

[1965Comet]

27. If you were an American in 1943...

would you root for or against a President who was cozy with Stalin?

http://www.csmonitor.com/Books/Book-Reviews/2015/0305/Roosevelt-and-Stalin-details-the-surprisingly-warm-relationship-of-an-unlikely-duo

Who gives a s*** if Belichick likes Trump! Belichick is a Sith F***ing Master, of course he likes Trump!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. Are you using FDR as a foil to defend Belichick's, Brady's, and Kraft's support of Drumpf?

Stalin was the lesser of two evils. It was siding with him or siding with Hitler. Drumpf is the evil of all evils.


I would never put sports over politics. Fuck Belichick and his BFF Donald Drumpf.

Who gives a s*** if Belichick likes Trump! Belichick is a Sith F***ing Master, of course he likes Trump!

There's lot of successful coaches who know Drumpf is trash, not some "Sith F***ing Master":

“I’ve spoken on this before and I probably will again. Right now I’m just trying to formulate thoughts. It’s still early and I’m still sick to my stomach. Not basically because the Republicans won or anything, but the disgusting tenor and tone and all the comments that have been xenophobic, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, and I live in that country where half the country ignored all that to elect someone. That’s the scariest part of the whole thing to me.

“It’s got nothing to do with the environment and Obamacare and all that other stuff. We live in a country that ignored all those values that we would hold our kids accountable for. They’d be grounded for years if they acted and said the things that have been said in that campaign by Donald Trump. I look at the evangelicals and I wonder, ‘Those values don’t mean anything to them?’

“All those values to me are more important than anybody’s skill in business or anything else because it tells who we are and how we want to live and what kind of people we are. That’s why I have great respect for people like Lindsey Graham and John McCain, John Kasich, who I disagree with on a lot of political things, but they had enough fiber and respect for humanity and tolerance for all groups to say what they said about the man.

“I get it, of course we want him to be successful. We’re all gonna say that. Everybody wants him to be successful. It’s our country. We don’t want it to go down the drain. Any reasonable person would come to that conclusion, but that does not take away the fact that he used that fear-mongering and all the comments from day one. The race baiting with trying to make Barack Obama, our first black president, illegitimate. It leaves me wondering where I’ve been living and with whom I’m living.

-Gregg Popovich

[1965Comet]

39. How about this then

FDR ordered the internment of Japanese Americans. This action is something that we today bring up when we talk about Trump's views on Muslims. You seem ok with FDR, and yet you castigate Belichick for being friends with someone who hasn't even interned anyone yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. FDR should never interned the Japanese.

How about this then
View profile
FDR ordered the internment of Japanese Americans. This action is something that we today bring up when we talk about Trump's views on Muslims. You seem ok with FDR, and yet you castigate Belichick for being friends with someone who hasn't even interned anyone yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans

FDR was wrong to intern the Japanese. He is still is regarded as one of America's best presidents. He ended the Great Depression, won WW ll, and created the safety net.

In any case what does this have to with Bill Belichick's slavish devotion to Donald Drumpf ?

[1965Comet]

45. redirect

See my answer on our other line of discussion on this topic. Thanks!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Asked and answered

To flesh this out for the entire community you should start a thread: "FDR's cooperation with Joseph Stalin after Germany declared war on the United States and his internment of the Japanese is tantamount to Bill Belichick fellating Donald Drumpf in a letter."

Drumpf would have came after he read it if he could.

[Kingofalldems]

14. Oh I think your rooting for patriots is all about politics, yeoman6987.

[Demsrule86]

17. Normally I agree.

And I was a Tom Brady fan for years...grew up in Connecticut, but Trump is a bridge to far...thus I will ever root for the Patriots again. It would be like Rooting for German Soccer team in 1938. Trump is attempting a fascist coup.

[grantcart]

18. Neither is arrogance in sports needed.

Beyond all the cosy social relationships is the same kind of arrogance. The Patriots are very "Trumpesque"

http://elitedaily.com/sports/history-new-england-patriots-allegedly-cheating/910436/

[SayItLoud]

55. Well...let's expand that a bit

So you would be OK with patronizing companies and brands that are "just friends" with a bigot, liar, cheater of working class women and men, fraud and a serial liar (oh, already mentioned that), groper of women, peep at young girls, and defrauds students, companies, doesn't pay taxes, has "secret" ties with an enemy of the United States of America, dodged the draft, mocks handicapped, dog whistles to white nationalists....on an on. But, it's OK for the Patriots cause you want them to win. Did you know a 30 second commercial is costing 5 million dollars, just for the air time? Football is every bit as much a business as GM Amazon or Carrier.

When you're watching your Pats play, every penalty why not think about the people tRUMP has screwed and during half time think about the people is is NOW screwing and WILL screw just to salve his narcissistic personality.

[Blanks]

2. Nice try fellas...

They own it now.

[alarimer]

4. Fuck the Patriots

I hate the Patriots even more than I hate the Packers (as a Vikings fan, that is required).

In any case, I'll be rooting for the Falcons. They are not owned/run by a Trumpster. Good enough for me.

[Blue_true]

19. The Falcons owner is a big republican moneyman

And a big Trump supporter. He is also a very big philanthropist, as is Kraft.

[alarimer]

22. Well, he is taking ALL the team employees to the SuperBowl

So I guess that's +1 for the Falcons (aside from the fact I used to live in Atlanta).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/01/23/falcons-owner-arthur-blank-is-taking-all-of-the-teams-employees-to-the-super-bowl/

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. Blank is a nominal Democrat who gives to both parties. He isn't a true believer like us.

Fine, few billionaires are. Kraft is a nominal Democrat who also gives to both parties. The difference is Kraft is a Trump sycophant, Blank isn't.

[uponit7771]

48. +1, hatred of division rivals is required as part of football but the cheating patriots deserve a

... special level of fuck off.

[oasis]

5. Benedict Donald, Patriot. "You are entering the Twilight Zone".

[ismnotwasm]

6. A fine mess

Maybe my personal standards are higher, but there is nothing about a bigot that makes me want to be "friends" with any of them. It's not political.

[uponit7771]

49. +1, I think this is salient; bigotry makes progressives itch ... we stay way clear of it

[Raine1967]

11. Hubby is a long time Falcons Fan! Falcons are my team AFTER the NYG ---

Who BTW: defeated the Pats twice. We support each others teams until we have to play each other -- and even then it tought to root against each others teams...


GO FALCONS!

Also, The owner of the Falcons is a helluva nice man:


Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank is paying for every team employee to go to the Super Bowl in Houston

According to Jeff Schultz of the Atlanta Constitution-Journal, franchise owner Arthur Blank is paying to send every Falcons employee — every single one! — to Houston for the big game.

As SB Nation revealed, there are approximately 270 employees in the Falcons directory, and the cheapest Super Bowl tickets are currently listed at over $3,000. When you factor in travel arrangements, we're talking well over $800,000.

Blank, the co-founder of Home Depot, is worth a cool $3 billion. This shouldn't be too much of a problem.

(BTW he's not the asshole co-founder of Home Depot, that's Bernard Marcus)

[TrekLuver]

13. Normally I would go with my New England neighbors....NOT THIS YEAR.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. My opposition is 100% political.

If they weren't Trump toadies I couldn't care less who won the Super Bowl.

[Dawson Leery]

16. I hate Football.

So I too look at politics as the lowest denominator.

May the Falcons crush the Patriots.

[Blue_true]

21. Authur Blank IS NOT a Democrat.

He is a longtime, big money republican contributor in and outside of Georgia. He IS. a big contributor of money to charity, as is Kraft. BTW, Kraft is a longtime Democrat, John Kerry and Deval Patrick are good friend of Kraft.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Arthur Blank spent $177,400 (74.2 percent to Democrats).

http://thebiglead.com/2016/02/25/nfl-owner-political-donations-republicans-democrats-bob-mcnair-jimmy-haslam-robert-kraft-arthur-blank/

[mindfulNJ]

25. Just stop.

Can we New England Patriots fans just enjoy the game please?

We are overwhelmingly blue up here so leave us alone already...can't say the same for the opponents home territory can we?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. In light of this I will never stop

Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have to help with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You have proven to be the ultimate competitor fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you for the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrow’s election, the results will give the opportunity to make America great again.

Best wishes for great results tomorrow,

Bill Belichick

[mindfulNJ]

31. Bill Belichick's vote was cancelled out

by all the other Massachusetts voters who voted for Hillary.

Go Pats.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. It is him that will hold the Vince Lombardi trophy , not the Massachusetts voters.

How can you even look at the guy?

[uponit7771]

51. What the fuck... shouldn't be surprised, both he and Benedict Donald are into cheating to win

[1965Comet]

28. The OP includes a quote from FDR in his sig...

and yet FDR was close to Stalin (who is pretty close to Hitler in terms of ghastly crimes committed).

Anywho, can't wait for DemSinceBirth to explain that one!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. I explained it.

Germany declared war on us the day after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Russia was our ally against Germany and the other members the AXIS.

Would you have suggested we ally with Hitler?

[1965Comet]

40. Actually,

"Russia was our ally against Germany and the other members the AXIS. "

The USSR was Germany's ally before they were our ally. They only became our ally after Germany attacked them. Let's not forget Stalin was allied with Hitler at the start of WWII.

The USSR participated in the carving up of Poland, and used its alliance with the AXIS powers to completely dominate Eastern Europe. The only reason the USSR became our ally was because Hitler's plan was to have Eastern Europe as lebensraum for the German people, and not to give it to the USSR.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. What does this have to do with Bill Belichick's infatuation with Donald Drumpf?

Bill Belichick declared his love of and loyalty to Donald Drumpf of his own volition. We allied with the Soviet Union out of necessity after Germany declared war on us.

[1965Comet]

43. My post wasn't about the alliance between the US and the USSR

it was about the warm relationship between FDR and Stalin. Obviously, we could have been allied with the USSR even if FDR did not want to be personal friends with Stalin.

My point is that it is ironic that you castigate Belichick for being friends with Trump, while at the same time have a quote in your signature from FDR, who was pretty friendly with Stalin.

Anyway, My other post on this subject mentions that FDR also interned some Japanese Americans during WWII. So basically, you seem to like the President who interned innocent people based on their race alone, while you also dislike Trump, who has not yet interned anyone (although I bet he would).

FDR also was responsible for the carpet-bombing of numerous cities in Europe and Japan, killing civilians.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. If you want to start a thread about the alleged perfidy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt you are free...

If you want to start a thread about the alleged perfidy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt you are free to do so. The fact you are't speaks volumes. Again, history called on Roosevelt and Churchill to save the world. The fact they had to enlist an unsavory character like Joseph Stalin in that effort was sad but necessary. I would also add ironic.

What in god's names does that have to do with Bill Belichick fellating Donald Drumpf in a letter?

Honesty is the best policy. It seems some place their fidelity to Bill Belichick above their antipathy to Donald Drumpf.

[1965Comet]

50. Stop being obtuse

Let me spell it out for you.

1.) You hate Bill Belichick for being friends with Trump. That's it, Belichick has never come out and said anything about Trump's policies.

2.) You like FDR, even though he committed crimes that Trump hasn't even hinted he would imitate. FDR interned American citizens purely because of their race. FDR authorized attacks on civilians during WWII that would today be considered the most heinous of war crimes. Despite all of this, you quote him in your signature.

3.) My point is not that the FDR presidency was a net negative for the nation or the world. If it was, then I might just write up my own DU post on the subject.

4.) I am just pointing out the irony inherent in your OP.

And as to your last line: those two things have nothing to do with each other! I am able to think Belichick is the greatest mad genius of all time regardless of whether he likes Trump. I'm not interested in conducting a political examination of all sports figures in order to determine who I should root for. Even then, there is no evidence to suggest Belichick thinks Trump's policies are good or bad.

[uponit7771]

53. Another false equivalency, FDR was trying to be a good person doing bad things with good intentions

... Benedict Donald is an overt grifter with openly apparent bad character traits that any idiot who's paying half ass'd attention can recognize.

Don't see how those line up

[1965Comet]

56. Its always dangerous

to judge someone (especially a President) based on their supposed intentions. Seriously, G.W. Bush might have had good intentions in trying to "liberate" the people of Iraq.

Even if his intentions were good, there is no argument that what he did would today be considered terrible war crimes.

[uponit7771]

59. You're right, actions and intentions is how I'm judging Benedict Donald... he's still fucked up

... and FDR was no were close in character.

FDR wasn't perfect, none of us are... he did some fucked up things too but mostly good HEALTHY intentions

There's no way a person paying half ass'd attention is going to judge Benedict Donald to be of same or near character as FDR.

No, false equivalency

Humans on planet Earth can see Benedict Donald and his Band Of Bigots for what they are if they're being honest with themselves by now.

[1965Comet]

61. Ok,

what about FDR's warm relationship with Stalin? It wasn't necessary for the alliance, since Stalin was already at war with Germany.

Stalin undoubtedly had a terrible character and was an even huger asshole than Trump. If we are to hate Belichick for his friendship with Trump, why not also hate FDR for his friendship with Stalin?

[uponit7771]

66. As for your first question asked and answered; Stalin was trying to help us more than

... trying to screw us and they both had a stake in stopping the Benedict Donald of that time named Hitler.

FDR wasn't giving Stalin hand jobs like MiniPootin is Vlad right now... I've seen no accounts of open verbal fellatio from FDR to Stalin like Benedict Donald has to Vlad.

Stalin was at least smarter than Benedict Donald is ... all of them are... Stalin started from or near the bottom while Benedict Donald always had enough money to cover for horrible character traits... no way MiniPootin would last a second in Stalins shoes... MiniPootin would be shot by now in Russia because he's very stupid.

In regards to the relationship which seems to be too friendly with Stalin at best FDR GOT SOMETHING OUT OF IT !!!

WTF is Belicheck going to get out of supporting Benedict Donald?!

[1965Comet]

69. Well, FDR did call him "Uncle Joe", but...

Does it matter what Belichick is getting? Isn't it only his "intentions" that matter according to you?

Perhaps Belichick is getting a closer relationship with his boss, Robert Kraft (another friend of Trump).

[uponit7771]

70. Yes it does, absolutely ... that's the main point of the false equivalency ... we got something

... out of Russia... the deal with the devil like our current US MIC.

FDR got something out of that relationship with Stalin that didn't openly appear to be a self centered quid pro quo.

There's no benefit to praising Benedict Donald's abhorrent character that's not openly self centered.

again... looks like Belicheck is self confirming especially with the bit about the media etc...

Fuck him

[1965Comet]

73. Shrug

So we are to hate Belichick because he is self-centered?

Do I have to hate Bill Clinton as well, since he apparently was friends with Trump up until the 2016 race (which of course includes all the years Trump was an anti-Obama birther, at the very least).

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. George Bush is a better human being than Donald Drumpf. The former is misguided. The latter is evil.

[uponit7771]

72. RIGHT !!! At this point even those who voted for him ... and ... are paying half ass'd attention

... knows there's something up.

Even if they think maybe he's rope a doping or something they know there's something different about this dude and it MIGHT NOT be positive.

They would never RATIONALLY and honestly be able to say the same about Clinton

[DemocratSinceBirth]

75. I didn't question Bush* 's character. I questioned his judgment.

Drumpf is of poor character and his judgment is abysmal.


Bush* didn't go around hating and/or disrespecting African Americans, Muslims, Hispanics, Australians, and women. He also didn't say you can grab them by the hoohah if you're powerful.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. Let's unpack this, shall we?

Stop being obtuse

I like you when you're mad, ooh la la

Let me spell it out for you.


1.) You hate Bill Belichick for being friends with Trump. That's it, Belichick has never come out and said anything about Trump's policies.

He wrote a paean to his character , maligned those who questioned it, and hoped for his victory. That is an endorsement of his policies:

"Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have to help with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You have proven to be the ultimate competitor fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you for the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrow’s election, the results will give the opportunity to make America great again.

Best wishes for great results tomorrow,

Bill Belichick"

2.) You like FDR, even though he committed crimes that Trump hasn't even hinted he would imitate. FDR interned American citizens purely because of their race. FDR authorized attacks on civilians during WWII that would today be considered the most heinous of war crimes. Despite all of this, you quote him in your signature.

I like FDR because he ended the Great Depression, won WW ll, and built the safety net. What part of that don't you understand? Oh, the comparison between his character and Drumpf's is odious.

3.) My point is not that the FDR presidency was a net negative for the nation or the world...

Even a blind squirrel can find an occasional nut.

4.) I am just pointing out the irony inherent in your OP.

Sorry. I don't see it because there is none, apples and porcupines and all...

And as to your last line: those two things have nothing to do with each other! I am able to think Belichick is the greatest mad genius of all time regardless of whether he likes Trump. I'm not interested in conducting a political examination of all sports figures in order to determine who I should root for. Even then, there is no evidence to suggest Belichick thinks Trump's policies are good or bad.

I never said you weren't free to worship Bill Belichick. I just took umbrage at you using Franklin Delano Roosevelt as a foil.

[uponit7771]

52. False equivalency, Stalin was trying to help us more than screw us... he had a stake in it himself

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. The Russian Army was also bleeding the Germans dry.

We lost 400,000 soldiers. The Russians lost 11,000,000.

[uponit7771]

67. +1, that's my main point is FDR got something out of getting close to Stalin what the hell

... is Belicheck supposed to get out of being close to Benedict Donald?

I can see the "keep enemies closer" strategy from Benedict Donald if Vlad didn't help him and his Band Of Bigots out in the election... maybe would be a smart move by MiniPootin but right now it looks like total treason on MiniPootins fault.

Nothing can come out of praising MiniPootin by Belicheck... seems like Belichecks self confirming bullshit

[DemocratSinceBirth]

74. Stalin was a real bad guy. NAZISM was the existential threat....

Stalin was a real bad guy. NAZISM was the existential threat since it represented an eliminationist ideology. For all its flaws and they were manifest Communism wasn't.

FDR and Churchill faced a Hobson's Choice.

[Blue_true]

35. I am reminded of the line in the movie Lincoln

as to why an Indiana representative would not vote for the 13th Amendment. Beside having lost his brother to the civil war, the other reason given was he just hated _ _ _. DemSinceBirth just hate the Patriots, any reason that can be found fuels that hatred, even when the real life stories of all but Trump are a lot more complicated than just being Trump lovers.

BTW. I hope this doesn't become a mini Hillary versus Bernie. I lurked and watched that, it was corrosive. Yes, Trump is a pig and I don't understand why Kraft and Belichick have anything to do with him, but Google the amount of real charitable work that Kraft and Belichick have done, they definitely are not like Trump.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. Thanks for the psychoanalysis. I don't hate the Patriots. I hate Drumpf sycophants.

Now you got my gander up:

Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have to help with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You have proven to be the ultimate competitor fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you for the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrow’s election, the results will give the opportunity to make America great again.

Best wishes for great results tomorrow,

Bill Belichick

What was great:

Calling Mexicans drug dealers , criminals, and rapists?

Calling Secretary Clinton "Crooked Hillary" and saying she should be locked up?

Saying you can't walk in an African american neighborhood "without getting shot" ?

Suggesting protesters should be beat up?

Suggesting if you are rich and powerful you can "grab women by the pu$$y" without their permission?


BTW, I must have hated Alabama too since I rooted for Clemson because Nick Satan reminds me of Drumpf.

And since I'm on a roll I rooted against Rex Ryan because he was a Drumpf sycophant too.

Oh, and f the Jets... Woody Johnson is a "huge" Drumpf sycophant.

I am repelled by Drumpf and all who enable him, all with no exceptions.

P.S. If Bobby Knight was still coaching I would loathe that Drumpf sycophant too....

[budkin]

34. As if the Pats needed another reason for everyone outside of MA to despise them

Pretty sure there will be a lot of bandwagon Falcons fans come Sunday.

[elehhhhna]

37. Cheaters gotta stick together

[MyNameGoesHere]

38. Is New England Patriots the code word for Ivanka?

Are we talking about his "other" wife?

[Cha]

41. Found this on Brady's wife.. since I know she's an immigrant..

snip//

Bundchen hails from Brazil, which means she’s an immigrant to the U.S., too. It’s unclear if she ‘s a U.S. citizen — she would have a green card at the very minimum for being married to an American citizen — but Forbes lists her citizenship as Brazilian.

It’s not the first time Bundchen has spoken out against the 45th president, either. A fan asked on Instagram around the time of the election if she and Brady supported Trump, and Bundchen replied with an emphatic no.

More..
http://nesn.com/2017/02/tom-brady-wont-comment-on-donald-trumps-policies-but-gisele-bundchen-will/

[mindfulNJ]

54. Dont bother

People hate the Patriots and no one can tell them differently. Haters gonna hate.

[uponit7771]

57. I don't "hate" them I despise MiniPooters, Benedict Donald is obviously fucked up...

... sticking by him after the first two weeks of displaying how fucked up he is doesn't look like good character traits

[Cha]

63. Right.. it looks like they're purposely obtuse or they just

don't give a fuck. Either way it's a stain on their character.

No normalizing trump.. ever. We know this happened before last century.

[uponit7771]

68. Amen

[Cha]

62. I'm just posting the info on his wife.. they can hate the patriots

if they want. I'm not too fond of them myself. sorry.

[democratisphere]

64. I want to see the Patriots get crushed by the Falcons.

Brady and Belichick announce their retirements next week. Robert Kraft announces he has sold the Patriots to Putin and the team will be relocating to Moscow, Russia.

[Afromania]

65. Eh

I sort of understand the view point. That team is made up of more than an idiot head coach, slimy owner and dipshit quarterback. There are other players that don't agree with their viewpoint playing in that game. Still, if you are a fan of either Bellicheck or Brady their indifference should be a turn off.

A number of years ago I found out my favorite actor (James Stewart) was a heel. No way George Bailey, Sgt York, or Jefferson Smith would ever support James Stewart in his views. Nope, those guys would be the one voice in the storm for equality, or at least that's how I reasoned it out to myself. So a bit of cognitive dissonance was put in place to separate the the actor from the characters. I figure that's how Patriot fans with liberal leanings deal with it, and it's ok. The uniform and franchise was there before those idiots and will be around long after all 3 of those bums are gone.